[Rhodes22-list] The Link to Nabble IS broken

[Tom Van Heule]

That's no problem at all.  I wish I was 24 and learning microservice
architecture, alas I have years of "legacy infrastructure" experience.

I agree on all fronts and concerns. Good work

On Fri, Jul 2, 2021, 11:32 AM Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
wrote:

> Tom,
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>
>
> Thank you for the generous offer to host the Rhodes22.org site.
>
>
>
> In 2016, when I assumed the hosting responsibility for Rhodes22.org & the
> GNU Mailman email list, I wanted to make sure that we would not need to
> move from a "borrowed" or "loaned" server again. Each time a member who
> provided hosting moved on, changed jobs, or retired, we had to scramble for
> a new home. I also wanted to be sure that we would not lose our content due
> to a hardware failure or management change (look at our history or just
> nabble, again).
>
>
>
> I chose AWS, a subsidiary of Amazon, to provide the environment,
> virtually. The hardware is pretty much bullet proof and I do not think that
> AWS is going anywhere as long as the bill is paid. A big thanks to those
> who have donated to the cause.
>
>
>
> I also wanted the transition to a new hosting member as simple as
> possible. AWS is a stable and transferrable platform, making it easy for a
> new hosting member to assume the role. I also have provided a method that
> manages the transition if I am unable to continue as hosting member. It
> took quite a bit to construct this safe way to host the rhodes22.org and
> I do not wish to make changes at this time.
>
>
>
> Thanks, again, for the offer.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> I'd rather be sailing 😊
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Tom
> Van Heule
> Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2021 7:35 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] The Link to Nabble IS broken
>
>
>
> Mike, et all,
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> I have a web server, our own hardware, in a  Chicago data center.
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> If you'd need I can , and happy to, do all the hosting. (I do not run an
> email server) I much prefer a micro service design, but that's a huge
> project to retain all the history....
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>
>
> Hope you have a safe and fun weekend.
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>
>
>
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> On Thu, Jul 1, 2021, 5:08 PM Michael D. Weisner < <mailto:
> mweisner at ebsmed.com> mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
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> > It seems that nabble is converting to a simple forum and dropping the
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> > email posting ability. In the process, they are losing functionality
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> > and now content!
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> >
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> > This is a serious change for them and many of their list clients (like
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> > us) are having significant issues such as:
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> >      1. "Contents Deleted" - entire lists are disappearing!
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> >            <http://support.nabble.com/CONTENTS-DELETED-td7609604.html>
> http://support.nabble.com/CONTENTS-DELETED-td7609604.html
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> >      2. Mailing Lists will be update to regular forums ...
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> >
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> >  <http://support.nabble.com/Mailing-Lists-will-be-updated-to-regular-for>
> http://support.nabble.com/Mailing-Lists-will-be-updated-to-regular-for
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> > ums-next-week-td7609458.html#a7609600
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> >
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> > From what I can see on the nabble support site, no one is really sure
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> > what is happening. I am so happy that the Rhodes22.org list has been
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> > independently maintained. We have only lost items that were not cross
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> > posted from nabble such as the "old.nabble.com" images. Many of the
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> > major nabble lists are in big trouble since they totally rely on
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> > nabble and have no other alternative.
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> >
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> > After some prodding from me (I saw the value of nabble but was afraid
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> > to trust their leadership with our content again), Peter Nyberg
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> > developed a website structure that permits a web based forum for
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> > posting to our list. I am in the process of looking to port the
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> > capability to our server. It provides all of the convenience of a web
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> > based posting forum like nabble while maintaining our security and
> independence.
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> >
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> > Please be patient as we evolve. We've come a long way in the last 6 to
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> > 12 months, much of it the result of Peter's efforts and abilities.
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> > Please raise a glass of your favorite libation to Peter Nyberg,
> virtually.
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> >
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> > Have a safe and happy 4th!
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> >
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> > Let's go sailing!
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> >
>
> > Mike
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> > s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>
> > Website Admin
>
> > Nissequogue River, NY
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> > I’d rather be sailing :~)
>
> >
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: Rhodes22-list < <mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org>
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>
> > Peter Nyberg
>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2021 5:18 PM
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> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List < <mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] The Link to Nabble IS broken
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> >
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> > If you don’t use Rhodes 22 forum on Nabble, you can ignore this message.
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> >
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> > In checking recent activity both on the email list, and on the Nabble
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> > forum, it has become clear that the connection between the two has
> broken.
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> > Posts to the email list are not appearing on Nabble, and messages
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> > created in the Nabble forum are not being posted to the list.
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> >
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> > I haven’t been a user of Nabble myself, but clearly some people
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> > preferred the web interface Nabble provided over using emails to
> communicate with the
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> > list.   I hope we won’t lose the participation of those members.
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> >
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> > Nabble is totally outside of our control, and I think that it’s not
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> > being supported anymore, so a fix is probably unlikely.
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> >
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> > I posted a message on the Nabble forum to warn people about this
> situation.
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> >
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> > For all those using email to interact with the list, nothing has changed.
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> >
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> > —Peter=
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> >
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