[Rhodes22-list] Furling line tensioner

Tue Jun 1 15:05:19 EDT 2021

Mike
I'd be interested in getting one
--Reuben
Reuben Mezrich
Pelican Cove in Sarasota
Cell: 410-499-8922

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 11:53 AM Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com> wrote:

> Todd, you may have missed the drama from GB on the forum when I posted the
> links to the video on the forum. I was promptly accused by an employee of
> GB of trying to subvert $$ away from GB through my evil corporate
> machinations. Mike Wiesner (sp?) intervened and they apologised. I'm sure
> the whole drama is in the archives.
>
> Moving on from that, here are the links for the video of the furler
> tensioner mounted on the boat and how it works:
> https://youtu.be/wwsH9xFgWYU
> https://youtu.be/NQTuE34GOKE
>
> All the metal parts on it are 316 ss. Each side of the tensioner rollers
> have a set screw to change the tension on the line. The initial set up
> takes a few minutes to get the tension the way you want it, but allows for
> a range of line sizes. I started with a 3/16" diameter line in it then
> changed to 1/4". It only took a few minutes to change the tension on the
> rollers to accommodate the larger line size. One change that will be
> implemented in the final iteration is to add a spring under the set screw
> on one side so the tensioner can be pushed open with your fingers to allow
> easier insertion of the line during rigging if you trailer sail like I do.
>
> I talked to my machinist friend and he's still interested in making some
> for you all. He's working on a price. He's retired and machining is a hobby
> for him so he responds kinda slowly. Anyone who is interested, send me a pm
> at mike at traildesign.com
>
> Michael Riter
> SV EmmaB
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 10:44 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have used a homemade roller furler control line tensioner solution for
> > 25+ years.  The 1st image is from www.defendercom<http://www.defendercom
> >
> > :
> >
> > [cid:image002.png at 01D752E5.314346C0]
> > This off-the-shelf piece of hardware is a C.S. Johnson Roller Furling
> Bail
> > (Johnson P/N: 40-505).  It’s designed to be mounted on the base of the
> > lifeline stanchions, just above the toe rail.  You mount one on each
> > stanchion from the bow back to the cockpit.  S/V Dynamic Equilibrium has
> 4
> > such stanchions.  At the stanchion in the front of the cockpit, you
> replace
> > the simple fairlead with this piece of off-the shelf hardware, (Harken
> P/N:
> > 239) also available from www.defender.com
> >
> > [cid:image005.png at 01D752E5.314346C0]
> > The following picture from the Rhodes-22 archives shows how my roller
> > furling control line is routed thru a block on a stand-up spring and then
> > along the toe rail back to the cockpit:
> >
> > [cid:image007.jpg at 01D752E3.64CB0700]
> >
> > Note how the block only changes the direction of the roller furler
> control
> > line by a few degrees.  Similarly, as the control line passes thru the
> > fairleads on each lifeline stanchion, the curvature of the foredeck
> causes
> > the control line to change direction slightly at each stanchion.  This
> > slight change of direction at each fairlead is the key.  Slightly
> changing
> > direction 5 times introduces just enough friction into the system to
> absorb
> > the kinetic energy and keep slight tension on the control line in order
> to
> > prevent a snarl on the furling drum.  When unfurling the genoa, you can
> > literally just let go of the control line and this passive system will
> > control the line tension all by itself!  I haven’t had a snarled control
> > line in over 25 years.  It just works!
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >
> > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> > Windows 10
> >
> > From: Jesse Shumaker<mailto:jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 8:27 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Furling line tensioner
> >
> > Mike, the tensioner is a great idea.  I suspect many of us might be
> > interested if your friend would be up for doing a bulk run of those.
> Would
> > just need to know what the cost would be (I'm guessing that would depend
> on
> > the volume).  What size line do you use for the furler?
> >
> > Jesse Shumaker
> > S/V Zephyr
> >
> > On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 7:13 PM Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jeff.
> > > I'm sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I'm not marketing any
> > products. I
> > > needed a better mousetrap for my furling line and worked with a friend
> of
> > > mine who is an engineer and machinist to come up with the item I showed
> > > everyone on the forum. I've had the prototype on the boat for a year
> now
> > > and it continues to work very well. The only thing I didn't like is
> > having
> > > to loosen the tensioner to thread the line through it when I rigged.
> But
> > it
> > > turned out to not be such a big deal after I marked the spot to
> > re-tension
> > > after I set up the boat.
> > >
> > > I think he would be happy to make another one for anyone who wants one,
> > but
> > > this isn't something we're doing for profit. I'm just another Rhodie
> with
> > > an overactive imagination.
> > >
> > > Michael Riter
> > > SV Emma B.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 2:26 PM JeffSmith <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > To Mike Riter,
> > > > Last year you showed a tensioner that you wer considering marketing.
> > Did
> > > > the
> > > > marketing part come to fruition?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----
> > > > Jeff Smith
> > > > 2009/2016 R22 #101 RADIANT
> > > > Atlantic Highlands Municpal Harbor
> > > > Atlantic Highlands, NJ
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > >
> > >
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