[Rhodes22-list] CDI Furler Wire Halyard Snapped - What's at the top?

[Allyn Baskerville]

Does anyone have forestay length measurements? I'm going to remeasure tonight, but I've already measured twice. I'm surprised at how much longer my measurements were.

27' 8-1/4" wire only, 27' 11-1/2 with fittings on the end.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Richard Beytagh
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 10:25 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CDI Furler Wire Halyard Snapped - What's at the top?

I've had great service from a company called Dwyer Mast (
https://www.dwyermast.com/) and I know they used to do quite a lot of work for Stan at GB. If you give them the right dimensions they'll ake up a new f'stay for you


~~~ _/) ~~~

Richard Beytagh
Phone: 828 337 0180


On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 9:28 AM Allyn Baskerville <allynb at adsne.com> wrote:

> I should mention that my boat is 2001. I'm not sure what changes were 
> made over the years.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of 
> Allyn Baskerville
> Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:25 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CDI Furler Wire Halyard Snapped - What's 
> at the top?
>
> Sorry folks, but I didn't mean halyard - it was the forestay. I just 
> watched the YouTube video on Silverheels, and the forestay toggle 
> joint broke at the top fitting exactly like this - the genoa also 
> dropped in the water exactly as described in the video.
>
> I measured the forestay, and the wire only is 27' 8-1/4" and with the 
> fittings (from the top of where the toggle joint should be to the 
> bottom of the top threaded part that goes into the turnbuckle) is 27' 
> 11-1/2". I looked online and found one place that said it was 27' and 
> another 25'6". I measured both of the dimensions twice. Does anyone 
> have the dimensions of what this should be?
>
> Someone I know recommended sta-lok, but the smallest I can find the 
> toggle joint is for 5/32" wire and not 1/8". Is there another option, 
> or should I look at the 5/32" option? I don't have a swaging tool.
>
> Thanks, all.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of 
> ROGER PIHLAJA
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 3:50 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CDI Furler Wire Halyard Snapped - What's 
> at the top?
>
> Peter,
>
> S/V Silver Heels experienced scenario #1 from my previous post.  If 
> Allyn’s boat experienced the same issue; then, we may have a problem area.
> We might want to warn the whole Rhodes list to inspect the toggle 
> joints on the top of their forestays.  From your U-Tube video, your 
> failure looked like a chloride stress cracking fatigue failure.  Such 
> failures are common with 300 series stainless steel alloys in a salt 
> water environment.  They can be early detected by dye penetrant, magnaflux, or ultrasonic testing.
> Dye penetrant would be the easiest for the average boat owner.  All 
> boats that sail on salt water would be subject to this issue.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 28, 2021, at 4:10 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Allyn,
> >
> > I had a similar adventure, and made a video about the problem and 
> > the
> fix.  There's a pretty good shot of the top of the mast in there too.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbKIYYFU73s&t=5s
> >
> > Best of luck,
> >
> > Peter
>