[Rhodes22-list] [Rhodes22e-list] New Traveler Modifications

[Michael McKay]

This is a very informative discussion. I am very new to the R22, but my initial impression is that the traveler is slow to manipulate. In a race I would adjust it for the tack and conditions but use the mainsheet to fine tune for gusts.  


Michael McKay
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> On Mar 24, 2021, at 7:07 PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
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> Jeff,
> 
> The GBI 29 Traveler has one continuous control line.  The trimmer must push or pull from virtually anywhere on that line to cause the traveler car to move.  You can move it as fast as you wish.  But, once you stop pulling or pushing on the control line, the traveler car will remain in that position unless the force on the traveler exceeds a certain threshold.  Once that force threshold is exceeded, the traveler car will begin to slip along the bar to leeward.  This force threshold is set be using the single cam cleat on the traveler car to set the tension in the control line.  The more control line tension, the higher the required breakaway force threshold.  This design feature allows the traveler car to slip to leeward to spill wind from the sail in the event of an uncontrolled gibe or sudden knockdown gust.  This design is unlike anything I have ever used in my sailing career and it took me a little while to get used to it.  But, when it’s properly adjusted, you really can set the traveler car wherever you want it, expect it to stay there, and then quickly move it to a new location.  It sounds like you have been trying to use the GBI 29 Traveler with the control line tension set so low that the traveler car will slide along the bar on its own.  Try increasing the line tension and then using the control lines to set the traveler car position.
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> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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> From: ROGER PIHLAJA<mailto:roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
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> Jeff,
> 
> The GBI 29 Traveler must be positioned in the desired location on the SS bar using the control lines.  It doesn’t just slide back and forth. The helmsman holds the hiking stick in one hand and the traveler control line in the other.  On S/V Dynamic Equilibrium, the hiking stick and the length of the standard control lines make the preferred helm gunnel position about 20-25 inches aft of the genoa sheet winches.  You could lengthen the control lines to move forward; but, then you might be in the way of the genoa sheet trimmer.  If you are single handing; then, you probably won’t be actively trimming both the genoa and the mainsail.  In this case, I would cross sheet the genoa to the windward winch, set the genoa at a conservative size and trim, and then play with the traveler and helm.  If things go crooked, you can always dump the genoa sheet!
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> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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>> On Mar 24, 2021, at 6:05 PM, JeffSmith <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>  I have raced my last 2 boats (a Baltic 39 and a J/30)  with good results
>> over the past 12 years in the AHYC PHRF Fleet-Non Spin. I hope to race my
>> R22 this year, but feel I have a lot to learn and modify before I can be
>> competitive against a fleet of bigger boats.  I will certainly have the
>> highest PHRF rating by far.
>> The one race I ran last year (which was when I first sailed the R22) was a
>> disaster upwind.
>> So my goal is to improve performance within a budget...
>> Steering from the forward end of the cockpit (keep the weight out of the
>> ends!) has led me to the above traveler mods, with the control lines led
>> forward to my steering station.
>> I'm pretty sure I have the newest traveler, but find it is totality under
>> responsive to racing needs. The  friction from 3/16 th" 5 purchase
>> continuous line in the small blocks does not even need a cleat to keep it
>> from moving!
>> Tomorrow I plan to raise my mast on the boat in the driveway and fiddle
>> around with the traveler.
>> Roger obviously Races and I hope to pick his brains, if he will allow.  But
>> how about others?  I know that the R22 is considered a cruising boat, but
>> Racing is tons of fun and a great way to spend additional time on the water
>> with other great sailors.
>> 
>> 
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>> Jeff Smith
>> 2009 R22 #101 RADIANT
>> Atlantic Highlands Municpal Harbor
>> Atlantic Highlands, NJ
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