[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4390, Issue 2
Wilson Cook
reefnsail123 at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 21 21:23:50 EDT 2021
That sounds exactly like what I was dealing with.
Also in previous post I discovered I was using chains incorrectly. Previous owner had them connected between winch pole and aft side stays with the forward stays just loose disconnected.
Sent from my iPhone
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. boat show report (stan)
> 2. Re: boat show report (Mark West)
> 3. RHODES WEAR (Joe Dempsey)
> 4. Re: RHODES WEAR (Jeffrey Camiel)
> 5. Re: Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4389, Issue 1 (Ric Stott)
> 6. Re: boat show report (Todd Tavares)
> 7. Detail fail? (Tom Van Heule)
> 8. Re: First Time (Tom Van Heule)
> 9. Re: First Time (Jeffrey Camiel)
> 10. Re: First Time (Tom Van Heule)
> 11. Re: boat show report (Frank Goldsmith)
> 12. Re: RHODES WEAR (Michael D. Weisner)
> 13. Re: Detail fail? (ROGER PIHLAJA)
> 14. Re: First time (ROGER PIHLAJA)
> 15. Email List Usage Guidelines Reminder (Peter Nyberg)
> 16. Re: First time (Mark West)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 11:55:04 -0400
> From: stan <stan at generalboats.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boat show report
> Message-ID: <6d3d6d5d-d862-a278-78c1-ba86221aa5a3 at generalboats.com>
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> Another show, another milestone.
>
> Back at the grind the backed up emails have taken over the one man
> office so patience is requested.
>
> With death, strokes and other ailments taking a toll on the production
> end, Rhodes wannabes have reached record highs; the one boat at the show
> (compared to the usual 4) was sold at the opening bell of the first
> day.? A million thanks for getting that one boat to the show goes to
> multi Rhodes owner John McLaughlin who gave up time from his own
> business to make that happen. ? And equal thanks to long time owner
> Michael Corley who managed retrieving the show boat from the show in
> spite of the wood ramp the show had built to our exhibit area,
> collapsing under the weight of superior built Rhodes.? Thanks also to
> Bill Wickman and Chris Geankoplis who came to tell prospects of their
> world travels in their Rhodes plus steadied the wobbly legs of the old
> man of the sea whenever I tried walking on land.
>
> Can't send an email to the list without including a GB commercial:
> The Rhodes Dry Marina is open for reservations for periods of one month
> to one year terms for those appreciating sailing the Albemarle; the
> second largest estuary in the country that lets you sail off to anywhere
> in the world yet has no tide or current. Your boat remains fully rigged
> ready to sail any day, any hour and you are under way in minutes.
>
> stan
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 16:41:33 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Mark West <keywestseccorp at verizon.net>
> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boat show report
> Message-ID: <1531204235.2633443.1634748093863 at mail.yahoo.com>
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> glad you made the show Stan best wishes Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stan <stan at generalboats.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wed, Oct 20, 2021 11:55 am
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boat show report
>
> Another show, another milestone.
>
> Back at the grind the backed up emails have taken over the one man
> office so patience is requested.
>
> With death, strokes and other ailments taking a toll on the production
> end, Rhodes wannabes have reached record highs; the one boat at the show
> (compared to the usual 4) was sold at the opening bell of the first
> day.? A million thanks for getting that one boat to the show goes to
> multi Rhodes owner John McLaughlin who gave up time from his own
> business to make that happen. ? And equal thanks to long time owner
> Michael Corley who managed retrieving the show boat from the show in
> spite of the wood ramp the show had built to our exhibit area,
> collapsing under the weight of superior built Rhodes.? Thanks also to
> Bill Wickman and Chris Geankoplis who came to tell prospects of their
> world travels in their Rhodes plus steadied the wobbly legs of the old
> man of the sea whenever I tried walking on land.
>
> Can't send an email to the list without including a GB commercial:
> The Rhodes Dry Marina is open for reservations for periods of one month
> to one year terms for those appreciating sailing the Albemarle; the
> second largest estuary in the country that lets you sail off to anywhere
> in the world yet has no tide or current. Your boat remains fully rigged
> ready to sail any day, any hour and you are under way in minutes.
>
> stan
>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 13:00:24 -0400
> From: "Joe Dempsey" <joedempsey at hughes.net>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] RHODES WEAR
> Message-ID: <019d01d7c5d3$ff657710$fe306530$@hughes.net>
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> Hey Rhodies! If you haven't yet ordered your hats and/or shirts, because of
> the success of these caps among List members, I ordered extras and will have
> some remaining. The hats look great, show your loyalty to the Rhodes 22 and
> order now to get your hat in just a week, first come, first served! I'll
> order more when these are gone.
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 12:28:19 -0500
> From: Jeffrey Camiel <forg3d at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RHODES WEAR
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> Two hats!!
>
> What do I need to do?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 20, 2021, at 12:00 PM, Joe Dempsey <joedempsey at hughes.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hey Rhodies! If you haven't yet ordered your hats and/or shirts, because of
>> the success of these caps among List members, I ordered extras and will have
>> some remaining. The hats look great, show your loyalty to the Rhodes 22 and
>> order now to get your hat in just a week, first come, first served! I'll
>> order more when these are gone.
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 13:31:25 -0400
> From: Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4389, Issue 1
> Message-ID:
> <F24BE7E2-D899-4700-8EC0-EA7815AF157F at stottarchitecture.com>
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> Thanks Todd
> I?m usually by myself also.
> I love the idea of the electric winch with a remote - let us know how that goes.
> So far I have not had sideways leaning issues that couldn?t be controlled easily from the crane as the mast is on the way up or down - even in some pretty heavy wind.
> I will be lowering the mast this Saturday while on the mooring so that when I motor over to the ramp at dusk, I can haul-it and go -
> Shhhh! - long silly story about municipal permits, trailers and tow vehicles.
> Ric
>
> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> O -631-283-1777
> C- 516-965-3164
>
>
>
>> On Oct 20, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ric,
>>
>> It must be that the front lower stays attached with the chain extensions
>> are to keep the mast from leaning beam wise??
>>
>> I have a self-made system and attach the forward lowers to the crane pole,
>> and have wondered the same thing.
>>
>> I use baby stays attached to eyelets on the mast below the spreader
>> brackets to keep the mast in line. This method was outlined in one of the
>> early GB instructions. My system utilizes the trailer winch cable attached
>> to the crane pole. The baby stay lines run under the cabintop handrail aft
>> of the center mount fitting then forward and tied off to the trailer tower
>> next to the winch with a tautline hitch. I can easily adjust the tension in
>> flight, and if the mast tries to lean sideways while cranking, I can just
>> put a bit of pressure down on the opposite baby stay and bring the mast
>> back/keep it in line.
>>
>> I have purchased a small at electric winch at Harbor Freight that I will
>> try next spring
>> It has a remote fob so I can stand on the foredeck and control the mast by
>> and foresail/furler without having to stay at the winch. It should make the
>> process much easier single handed...hopefully.
>>
>> Todd T
>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 10:01 AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> GM List
>>> Since I owned the boat in 2013, I have used friends and family for my mast
>>> crane.
>>> Manipulating it without a crane is not as difficult with a continental rig
>>> because it?w lighter without the main sail attached.
>>> Now - I have a home made crane that I bought in NJ, and used without any
>>> guidance.
>>> I used it the first time at the end of 2020 to lower the mast.
>>> Intuitively - I hooked the froward-lowers to the crane and left the
>>> aft-lowers connected to the chainplates.
>>> Worked like a charm!
>>> I made the same connections to raise the mast this spring - again - no
>>> problem.
>>> I don?t understand the logic of connecting the aft-lowers to the crane and
>>> the need for extenders for the forward-lowers.
>>> Can someone fill me in?
>>> Ric
>>> Dadventure
>>> HBNY
>>>
>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>> O -631-283-1777
>>> C- 516-965-3164
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 10:02 PM, Wilson Cook via Rhodes22-list <
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The previous owner told me the chains on the list needed to be one link
>>> short. But I could not for the life of me get the pin in the headstay
>>> chainplate. Lowered it put in second link-closer but no cigar. Lowered
>>> again-put in third link and was able to crank it down far enough. If crank
>>> handle was parallel to deck instead perpendicular would have had another
>>> turn.
>>>>
>>>> As I mentioned earlier I think something was binding at the masthead
>>> because when it popped the headstay was looser.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 12:18 AM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?Send Rhodes22-list mailing list submissions to
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>>>>>
>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Re: Live from Annapolis this morning (Tom Van Heule)
>>>>> 2. Help (Chris Geankoplis)
>>>>> 3. Re: Stan at the show (Chris Geankoplis)
>>>>> 4. Re: Stan at the show (Mark Wynn)
>>>>> 5. Re: Stan at the show (Chris Geankoplis)
>>>>> 6. Re: I?m a Rhodie (Chris Geankoplis)
>>>>> 7. Re: Help (Michael Corley)
>>>>> 8. Re: I?m a Rhodie (Stephen Staum)
>>>>> 9. Re: Help (Chris Geankoplis)
>>>>> 10. Re: Bimini Car attachment (C. Robert Lester)
>>>>> 11. First time (Wilson Cook)
>>>>> 12. Re: First time (Lowe, Rob)
>>>>> 13. Re: First time (Peter Nyberg)
>>>>> 14. Re: First time (ROGER PIHLAJA)
>>>>> 15. Re: First time (Wilson Cook)
>>>>> 16. Re: First time (Jesse Shumaker)
>>>>> 17. Re: First time (Peter Nyberg)
>>>>> 18. Re: First time (Lowe, Rob)
>>>>> 19. Rudder cheek plate (Matt Wilson)
>>>>> 20. Re: Rudder cheek plate (Todd Tavares)
>>>>> 21. Re: Rudder cheek plate (Matt Wilson)
>>>>> 22. Re: Rudder cheek plate (Michael D. Weisner)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:34:40 -0500
>>>>> From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Live from Annapolis this morning
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <CAEqJHY5LLMDyswRbCr9-Z=tE7xwKOZJ383pegVar2dtuJE99YQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> And all of us!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021, 2:48 PM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please say hi to Stan from Vermont Graham!
>>>>>> G
>>>>>> Sv.00Sailin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
>>>>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ?Charles,
>>>>>>> I wasn't going to go to the show because General Boats was
>>> not
>>>>>>> listed. But now I see that you are there! I'm on my way down and
>>> should
>>>>>>> be there in an hour and a half or less! Looking forward to seeing you
>>>>>>> guys. I'm in the states only a few days before returning to Greece so
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> is a great way to spend some time.
>>>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 10:31 AM Charles Gabriel <
>>>>>> charles.gabriel at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The folks from the Youtube channel "Acorn To Arabella" held a
>>>>>>>> live feed from the show this morning, and near the end they just
>>>>>>>> happened to walk by the General Boats exhibit. You can watch
>>>>>>>> it here:
>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/498a2IpwfAc?t=3972
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 23:07:58 -0400
>>>>> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <CADNTwiWZ_AjEddR_w_m3z33OCEci-QnysCQFQtABYJiCZBRV9w at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> Just wanted to put it out. If anyone isn?t tied up and is able to attend
>>>>> the boat show, might I suggest spending a few hours at the show and
>>> perhaps
>>>>> some time with Stan. I think there was someone who was supposed to help
>>> but
>>>>> didn?t show. Doing the show single handed at 95 is more than he can
>>> handle
>>>>> by himself. I?ve got to return to Greece otherwise I?d do it myself.
>>>>> Anyway, if you can spare a few hours Saturday or Sunday that would be
>>>>> great.
>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>> ENOSIS
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 23:16:50 -0400
>>>>> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Rod Ellner <rodellner at mac.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Stan at the show
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <CADNTwiVARD1HbFctbEjU28g6c9j4MaJgMrgQO1=Zx0pFu0Jucg at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, the journal will eventually get posted. I ran head on into
>>>>> Greek/Turkish bureaucracy so convoluted that I had to fly back to the
>>> US to
>>>>> get it fixed. Headed to Greece now. Let you all how it turns out or if I
>>>>> need bail money.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>> ENOSIS
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:06 PM Rod Ellner via Rhodes22-list <
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris. Thanks for stopping by Annapolis. We need to hear your Rhode
>>>>>> Rhodes story
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome home!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rod and Mary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:54 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ?Bill Wickman and I stopped by to see Stan. I would encourage any
>>>>>> owners to
>>>>>>> drop by maybe ?testify? to interested buyers. I think Stan could use a
>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>> of company. Working a show like this is a challenge for someone half
>>> my
>>>>>>> age.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>>>> Enosis
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 10:51:03 +0000 (UTC)
>>>>> From: Mark Wynn <markwynn at verizon.net>
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, Rod Ellner
>>>>> <rodellner at mac.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Stan at the show
>>>>> Message-ID: <1408987542.1546022.1634381463595 at mail.yahoo.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck with the Greeks and Turks. Let us know if we should send a
>>> cake with hack saw blade included.?Mark WynnSailing ?Windchimes?? on
>>> Magothy River, MD
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, October 15, 2021, 11:17 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, the journal will eventually get posted. I ran head on into
>>>>> Greek/Turkish bureaucracy so convoluted that I had to fly back to the
>>> US to
>>>>> get it fixed. Headed to Greece now. Let you all how it turns out or if I
>>>>> need bail money.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>> ENOSIS
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:06 PM Rod Ellner via Rhodes22-list <
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris.? Thanks for stopping by Annapolis.? We need to hear your Rhode
>>>>>> Rhodes story
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome home!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rod and Mary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:54 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ?Bill Wickman and? I stopped by to see Stan. I would encourage any
>>>>>> owners to
>>>>>>> drop by maybe ?testify? to interested buyers. I think Stan could use a
>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>> of company. Working a show like this is a challenge for someone half
>>> my
>>>>>>> age.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>>>> Enosis
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 5
>>>>> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 08:32:29 -0400
>>>>> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Mark Wynn <markwynn at verizon.net>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Stan at the show
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <CADNTwiWGTu=nX-HOe-kYOaeu4quHdQVJzoM6+Tiodcg70i0_bA at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the thought Mark. Hope you get a chance to see Stan. Just
>>> got an
>>>>> email from my Turkish ?agent?. Looks like the solution can be ?
>>> arranged?.
>>>>> I?m not going to ask. Have you guys been out on the boat?
>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>> Enosis
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 6:51 AM Mark Wynn via Rhodes22-list <
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck with the Greeks and Turks. Let us know if we should send a
>>> cake
>>>>>> with hack saw blade included. Mark WynnSailing ?Windchimes? on Magothy
>>>>>> River, MD
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, October 15, 2021, 11:17 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
>>>>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, the journal will eventually get posted. I ran head on into
>>>>>> Greek/Turkish bureaucracy so convoluted that I had to fly back to the
>>> US to
>>>>>> get it fixed. Headed to Greece now. Let you all how it turns out or if
>>> I
>>>>>> need bail money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>>> ENOSIS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:06 PM Rod Ellner via Rhodes22-list <
>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris. Thanks for stopping by Annapolis. We need to hear your Rhode
>>>>>>> Rhodes story
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Welcome home!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rod and Mary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:54 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
>>>>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ?Bill Wickman and I stopped by to see Stan. I would encourage any
>>>>>>> owners to
>>>>>>>> drop by maybe ?testify? to interested buyers. I think Stan could use
>>> a
>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>> of company. Working a show like this is a challenge for someone half
>>> my
>>>>>>>> age.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>>>>> Enosis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 6
>>>>> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 08:37:57 -0400
>>>>> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, Wilson Cook
>>>>> <reefnsail123 at yahoo.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I?m a Rhodie
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <CADNTwiWF8vEFs0cJ2H_vmyPn_BbT6evCfU+wp8J4aJ6tFaBs0Q at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome Wilson! You are now a member of a group of passionate, devoted
>>>>> (hmm sounds a bit like a cult- might be) group of men and women who
>>> take
>>>>> great joy in sailing and helping others enjoy their Rhodes.
>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>> Enosis
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 1:21 PM Wilson Cook via Rhodes22-list <
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It?s official. My Rhodes 22 2002/2009(refurbished) is in my driveway!
>>>>>> This mailing list seems like a tremendous resource. Is there some
>>> index or
>>>>>> search function to be able to look up previously asked questions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 7
>>>>> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 10:12:29 -0400
>>>>> From: Michael Corley <michael.4591 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <CACSd1j+k0qTKqABordYLNz45z2HHNUga9z94EiQa=SD73T63fg at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> I will be there Sunday and Monday and help haul things back to Edenton.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Mike Corley
>>>>> s/v Ranger
>>>>> Hampton Roads
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 11:08 PM Chris Geankoplis <
>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just wanted to put it out. If anyone isn?t tied up and is able to
>>> attend
>>>>>> the boat show, might I suggest spending a few hours at the show and
>>> perhaps
>>>>>> some time with Stan. I think there was someone who was supposed to
>>> help but
>>>>>> didn?t show. Doing the show single handed at 95 is more than he can
>>> handle
>>>>>> by himself. I?ve got to return to Greece otherwise I?d do it myself.
>>>>>> Anyway, if you can spare a few hours Saturday or Sunday that would be
>>>>>> great.
>>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>>> ENOSIS
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 8
>>>>> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 10:14:36 -0400
>>>>> From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Wilson Cook <reefnsail123 at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I?m a Rhodie
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <CAOo_Fjcj7xQMuEEmxES8CRsp0bHH0tB6d8_+87Txp+rS4XMs1Q at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> Wilson,
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome to 'da list. Let us know if you need any help or advice.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Thanks and Stay Well,*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Stephen Staum*
>>>>> *s/v Pinafore (my 3rd Rhodes 22)*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Needham, MA*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 1:21 PM Wilson Cook via Rhodes22-list <
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It?s official. My Rhodes 22 2002/2009(refurbished) is in my driveway!
>>>>>> This mailing list seems like a tremendous resource. Is there some
>>> index or
>>>>>> search function to be able to look up previously asked questions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 9
>>>>> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 10:48:58 -0400
>>>>> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <CADNTwiV2t-Ef4DcqnjiXmn6mc3pgF+sQu1nxSWJuho-mSwJdzQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> That is great Mike. We all appreciate your helping Stan!
>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>> Enosis
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 10:12 AM Michael Corley <michael.4591 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I will be there Sunday and Monday and help haul things back to Edenton.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Mike Corley
>>>>>> s/v Ranger
>>>>>> Hampton Roads
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 11:08 PM Chris Geankoplis <
>>>>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just wanted to put it out. If anyone isn?t tied up and is able to
>>> attend
>>>>>>> the boat show, might I suggest spending a few hours at the show and
>>>>>> perhaps
>>>>>>> some time with Stan. I think there was someone who was supposed to
>>> help
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> didn?t show. Doing the show single handed at 95 is more than he can
>>>>>> handle
>>>>>>> by himself. I?ve got to return to Greece otherwise I?d do it myself.
>>>>>>> Anyway, if you can spare a few hours Saturday or Sunday that would be
>>>>>>> great.
>>>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>>>> ENOSIS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 10
>>>>> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 19:11:05 +0000
>>>>> From: "C. Robert Lester" <C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu>
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini Car attachment
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <
>>> BN9PR03MB61567E7B2DA124E065DBBFEDAEBA9 at BN9PR03MB6156.namprd03.prod.outlook.com
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>
>>>>> Found it!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> https://www.catalinadirect.com/shop-by-boat/catalina-27/canvas-covers/biminis/bimini-genoa-track-cars/
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks all for the feedback an pics.
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Todd Tavares
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 8:46 AM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini Car attachment
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure what you are asking for.
>>>>> A bimini car rides on the genoa track (usually).
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as the traveller car, there have been several different styles
>>> of traveller used over the years. Some are specific custom cars and others
>>> are available commercially.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are looking for the traveller car that rides on a 1" round bar,
>>> original probably after 1984, it is available from rig rite.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rigrite.com%2FTravellers%2FNF_Travellers%2FRound%2520Bar%2520Travellers.php&data=04%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu%7Ca5fd7dcf75fc4b6555e508d98734fdec%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C637689484519658672%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=sKNpdcuORflc9uCgB2PgoSHMd9%2Fat1HFmajlMfbHo1A%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 12:06 AM C. Robert Lester <
>>> C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> Would some of you share a pic with me...I'm interested in what the
>>>>>> bimini car on the traveler looks like.
>>>>>> I'm currently trying to mate the parts I have together.
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>> ('84 ORION)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 11
>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 07:57:46 -0400
>>>>> From: Wilson Cook <reefnsail123 at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] First time
>>>>> Message-ID: <E09B1CB6-8F54-4FED-ADC1-D1841E6B752E at yahoo.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>>>
>>>>> So I erected my mast for the first time yesterday. I hope there is a
>>> short learning curve. Took a while but I was single handed Biggest
>>> challenge was the headstay. Took everything I had after shortening chains
>>> twice. Once it was finally up and I was tensioning backstays something
>>> ?popped? at the masthead and then forestay was looser.
>>>>>
>>>>> Related question- there is a block and tackle across the backstays but
>>> there is no cleat?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 12
>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 12:17:30 +0000
>>>>> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
>>>>> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, Wilson
>>>>> Cook <reefnsail123 at yahoo.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <
>>> DM6PR05MB6985FAA050B2F85FC2E6F600C1BC9 at DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>>>>>
>>>>> Wilson,
>>>>> The cleat for the backstay adjustment is on the starboard side, next to
>>> the chainplate. - rob
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
>>> Wilson Cook via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:57 AM
>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] First time
>>>>>
>>>>> So I erected my mast for the first time yesterday. I hope there is a
>>> short learning curve. Took a while but I was single handed Biggest
>>> challenge was the headstay. Took everything I had after shortening chains
>>> twice. Once it was finally up and I was tensioning backstays something
>>> ?popped? at the masthead and then forestay was looser.
>>>>>
>>>>> Related question- there is a block and tackle across the backstays but
>>> there is no cleat?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 13
>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 06:11:05 -0700
>>>>> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time
>>>>> Message-ID: <E1mcSPx-000V1H-Cu at s152.servername.online>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> ?or it might be on the port side.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which side the tensioner get cleated to depends on how the blocks on
>>> the back stays are configured. Mine are set for port side cleaning, but
>>> General Boats put cleats on both sides, just in case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Nyberg
>>>>> Coventry, CT
>>>>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2021-10-18, at 08:17:30 EDT, Lowe, Rob wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wilson,
>>>>>> The cleat for the backstay adjustment is on the starboard side, next
>>> to the
>>>>>> chainplate. - rob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 14
>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:36:06 +0000
>>>>> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>>>>> To: Wilson Cook <reefnsail123 at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <
>>> CH2PR02MB6920B2DEB50D42D434B525BE80BC9 at CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Wilson,
>>>>>
>>>>> It helps to make a checklist and follow it. Do you have the GBI mast
>>> stepping system? I am not strong enough to step/unstep the mast without
>>> this mechanical aid. Stepping/unstopping the mast is faster if you have
>>> some helpers. You save the rigging/unrigging time to setup the GBI mast
>>> stepping system. But, if you are alone, the GBI mast stepping system makes
>>> it a safe, foolproof operation.
>>>>>
>>>>> The attached picture shows the OEM standard cleat for the backstay
>>> adjuster. This cleat is located on the transom in the starboard aft
>>> corner. Also shown in the picture is my improved ?Go Faster? backstay
>>> adjuster. The backstay tension is the primary way to adjust forestay sag.
>>> Forestay sag affects genoa sailshape. You want to be able to adjust it
>>> quickly and reproducibly. Here are the components of my backstay adjuster:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Harken 146 Single Big Bullet Block With Shackle
>>>>> 2. Harken 144 Swivel Base With 150 Cam-Matic Cam Cleat & Stand-Up
>>> Spring
>>>>> 3. 10-24UNC X 1-1/2 Inch 18/8 Stainless Steel Flat Head Phillips
>>> Machine Screws, Fenders Washers, & Nylock Nuts ? 4 Reqd
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead of cleating the backstay adjuster off on the OEM standard
>>> horned cleat on the transom, rig it thru the Harken block and cam cleat.
>>> Now, using a black magic marker, mark off every 6 inches on the backstay
>>> control line starting from when the backstay adjuster just starts to take
>>> up the slack in the forestay. Now, you can reproducibly adjust the tension
>>> in the backstay with just a flick of the wrist and a pull on the control
>>> line to the appropriate mark. Note, the required backstay tension to
>>> eliminate forestay sag in heavy air is quite high. I don?t like to leave
>>> the backstay tension that high when I leave the boat (think banana boat!).
>>> So, I slack off the backstay adjuster when I?m not actually sailing. Note,
>>> the Harken swivel base enables the helmsman to reach and adjust the
>>> backstay tension from any position in the cockpit.
>>>>>
>>>>> This discussion actually belongs in the ?Go Faster? &/or ?Furling
>>> Headsail Replacement? threads because it is another go faster upgrade
>>> associated with the genoa.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>>>
>>>>> [cid:image002.jpg at 01D7C414.553B7930]
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>>> Windows
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Wilson Cook via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:57 AM
>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] First time
>>>>>
>>>>> So I erected my mast for the first time yesterday. I hope there is a
>>> short learning curve. Took a while but I was single handed Biggest
>>> challenge was the headstay. Took everything I had after shortening chains
>>> twice. Once it was finally up and I was tensioning backstays something
>>> ?popped? at the masthead and then forestay was looser.
>>>>>
>>>>> Related question- there is a block and tackle across the backstays but
>>> there is no cleat?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 15
>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:07:21 -0400
>>>>> From: Wilson Cook <reefnsail123 at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>>>>> Cc: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time
>>>>> Message-ID: <830884C5-A7FA-4F95-82DA-E07A302138A7 at yahoo.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I have the mast hoist. I can?t imagine it would be possible
>>> certainly alone without it. I?m at work but I do have a vague memory of a
>>> cleat over there that I thought was odd. Now I know.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a great resource. Thank you
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2021, at 11:36 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>> Hi Wilson,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It helps to make a checklist and follow it. Do you have the GBI mast
>>> stepping system? I am not strong enough to step/unstep the mast without
>>> this mechanical aid. Stepping/unstopping the mast is faster if you have
>>> some helpers. You save the rigging/unrigging time to setup the GBI mast
>>> stepping system. But, if you are alone, the GBI mast stepping system makes
>>> it a safe, foolproof operation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The attached picture shows the OEM standard cleat for the backstay
>>> adjuster. This cleat is located on the transom in the starboard aft
>>> corner. Also shown in the picture is my improved ?Go Faster? backstay
>>> adjuster. The backstay tension is the primary way to adjust forestay sag.
>>> Forestay sag affects genoa sailshape. You want to be able to adjust it
>>> quickly and reproducibly. Here are the components of my backstay adjuster:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Harken 146 Single Big Bullet Block With Shackle
>>>>>> Harken 144 Swivel Base With 150 Cam-Matic Cam Cleat & Stand-Up Spring
>>>>>> 10-24UNC X 1-1/2 Inch 18/8 Stainless Steel Flat Head Phillips Machine
>>> Screws, Fenders Washers, & Nylock Nuts ? 4 Reqd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Instead of cleating the backstay adjuster off on the OEM standard
>>> horned cleat on the transom, rig it thru the Harken block and cam cleat.
>>> Now, using a black magic marker, mark off every 6 inches on the backstay
>>> control line starting from when the backstay adjuster just starts to take
>>> up the slack in the forestay. Now, you can reproducibly adjust the tension
>>> in the backstay with just a flick of the wrist and a pull on the control
>>> line to the appropriate mark. Note, the required backstay tension to
>>> eliminate forestay sag in heavy air is quite high. I don?t like to leave
>>> the backstay tension that high when I leave the boat (think banana boat!).
>>> So, I slack off the backstay adjuster when I?m not actually sailing. Note,
>>> the Harken swivel base enables the helmsman to reach and adjust the
>>> backstay tension from any position in the cockpit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This discussion actually belongs in the ?Go Faster? &/or ?Furling
>>> Headsail Replacement? threads because it is another go faster upgrade
>>> associated with the genoa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <919EB46A00C54B95B151B34D35E652BB.jpg>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Wilson Cook via Rhodes22-list
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:57 AM
>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] First time
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I erected my mast for the first time yesterday. I hope there is a
>>> short learning curve. Took a while but I was single handed Biggest
>>> challenge was the headstay. Took everything I had after shortening chains
>>> twice. Once it was finally up and I was tensioning backstays something
>>> ?popped? at the masthead and then forestay was looser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Related question- there is a block and tackle across the backstays but
>>> there is no cleat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 16
>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:19:34 -0500
>>>>> From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <CAMc-3fpPOvWvYRvkEdewDpXGfHo94czkHRr-3y4Nc_5NffyP4w at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger, great idea on the easily adjustable backstay adjuster!
>>>>>
>>>>> Wilson, there are a number of posts with checklists for mast raising /
>>>>> lowering using the GB system that people have created over time. Let us
>>>>> know if you are looking for that and have any trouble finding examples.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jesse Shumaker
>>>>> S/V Zephyr
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 10:36 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Wilson,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It helps to make a checklist and follow it. Do you have the GBI mast
>>>>>> stepping system? I am not strong enough to step/unstep the mast
>>> without
>>>>>> this mechanical aid. Stepping/unstopping the mast is faster if you
>>> have
>>>>>> some helpers. You save the rigging/unrigging time to setup the GBI
>>> mast
>>>>>> stepping system. But, if you are alone, the GBI mast stepping system
>>> makes
>>>>>> it a safe, foolproof operation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The attached picture shows the OEM standard cleat for the backstay
>>>>>> adjuster. This cleat is located on the transom in the starboard aft
>>>>>> corner. Also shown in the picture is my improved ?Go Faster? backstay
>>>>>> adjuster. The backstay tension is the primary way to adjust forestay
>>> sag.
>>>>>> Forestay sag affects genoa sailshape. You want to be able to adjust it
>>>>>> quickly and reproducibly. Here are the components of my backstay
>>> adjuster:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Harken 146 Single Big Bullet Block With Shackle
>>>>>> 2. Harken 144 Swivel Base With 150 Cam-Matic Cam Cleat & Stand-Up
>>> Spring
>>>>>> 3. 10-24UNC X 1-1/2 Inch 18/8 Stainless Steel Flat Head Phillips
>>>>>> Machine Screws, Fenders Washers, & Nylock Nuts ? 4 Reqd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Instead of cleating the backstay adjuster off on the OEM standard
>>> horned
>>>>>> cleat on the transom, rig it thru the Harken block and cam cleat. Now,
>>>>>> using a black magic marker, mark off every 6 inches on the backstay
>>> control
>>>>>> line starting from when the backstay adjuster just starts to take up
>>> the
>>>>>> slack in the forestay. Now, you can reproducibly adjust the tension
>>> in the
>>>>>> backstay with just a flick of the wrist and a pull on the control
>>> line to
>>>>>> the appropriate mark. Note, the required backstay tension to eliminate
>>>>>> forestay sag in heavy air is quite high. I don?t like to leave the
>>>>>> backstay tension that high when I leave the boat (think banana
>>> boat!). So,
>>>>>> I slack off the backstay adjuster when I?m not actually sailing.
>>> Note, the
>>>>>> Harken swivel base enables the helmsman to reach and adjust the
>>> backstay
>>>>>> tension from any position in the cockpit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This discussion actually belongs in the ?Go Faster? &/or ?Furling
>>> Headsail
>>>>>> Replacement? threads because it is another go faster upgrade associated
>>>>>> with the genoa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [cid:image002.jpg at 01D7C414.553B7930]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>>> Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Wilson Cook via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:57 AM
>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] First time
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I erected my mast for the first time yesterday. I hope there is a
>>> short
>>>>>> learning curve. Took a while but I was single handed Biggest
>>> challenge was
>>>>>> the headstay. Took everything I had after shortening chains twice.
>>> Once it
>>>>>> was finally up and I was tensioning backstays something ?popped? at the
>>>>>> masthead and then forestay was looser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Related question- there is a block and tackle across the backstays but
>>>>>> there is no cleat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20211018/7f5499a9/attachment.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 17
>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:25:23 -0700
>>>>> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time
>>>>> Message-ID: <E1mcZCF-003QBi-IT at s152.servername.online>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> Wilson,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been puzzled all day about your problem with your forestay. I
>>> assume the 'challenge' you mention was getting the forestay connected to
>>> its chainplate at the bow. What had me scratching my head was your mention
>>> of shortening the chains. Shortening the chains shouldn't have any effect
>>> on being able to get the top of the mast far enough forward to make the
>>> forestay connection, unless...
>>>>>
>>>>> By any chance, do you have the chains connected to the mast crane?
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Nyberg
>>>>> Coventry, CT
>>>>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2021-10-18, at 07:57:46 EDT, Wilson Cook wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I erected my mast for the first time yesterday. I hope there is a
>>> short
>>>>>> learning curve. Took a while but I was single handed Biggest
>>> challenge was the
>>>>>> headstay. Took everything I had after shortening chains twice. Once it
>>> was
>>>>>> finally up and I was tensioning backstays something ?popped? at the
>>> masthead and
>>>>>> then forestay was looser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Related question- there is a block and tackle across the backstays but
>>> there is
>>>>>> no cleat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 18
>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 20:34:17 +0000
>>>>> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <
>>> DM6PR05MB698545815394C03865A1E249C1BC9 at DM6PR05MB6985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> Photos always help too. Take a photo (jpeg preferred) and send it to us
>>> as an attachment. Having the backstay adjustment slack will also give you
>>> some leeway with the forestay. Once it's connected, you can tighten the
>>> backstays.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Peter Nyberg
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:25 PM
>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time
>>>>>
>>>>> Wilson,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been puzzled all day about your problem with your forestay. I
>>> assume the 'challenge' you mention was getting the forestay connected to
>>> its chainplate at the bow. What had me scratching my head was your mention
>>> of shortening the chains. Shortening the chains shouldn't have any effect
>>> on being able to get the top of the mast far enough forward to make the
>>> forestay connection, unless...
>>>>>
>>>>> By any chance, do you have the chains connected to the mast crane?
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Nyberg
>>>>> Coventry, CT
>>>>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2021-10-18, at 07:57:46 EDT, Wilson Cook wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I erected my mast for the first time yesterday. I hope there is a
>>>>>> short learning curve. Took a while but I was single handed Biggest
>>>>>> challenge was the headstay. Took everything I had after shortening
>>>>>> chains twice. Once it was finally up and I was tensioning backstays
>>>>>> something ?popped? at the masthead and then forestay was looser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Related question- there is a block and tackle across the backstays but
>>>>>> there is no cleat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 19
>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 20:24:40 -0500
>>>>> From: Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder cheek plate
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <CANbEFCtCM051H5gy1GRH-HobkHn+ke+XnsV8C73EEmZdx=9PAg at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a cracked port side rudder check plate and am wondering what is
>>> the
>>>>> best way to repair or replace it? I have a 1990 Rhodes. I am not a
>>> member
>>>>> of the GB parts club. Any help would be appreciated. Hoping to take
>>> care
>>>>> of this in the early off season ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>> Hornblower 2
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 20
>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 21:30:39 -0400
>>>>> From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder cheek plate
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <CAB-twMP0BBZvGh7rJCWBUj_upHpqp-NNrT5uSohkip1oG8K=BA at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would suggest buying some black UHMWPE and fabricating two new cheek
>>>>> plates yourself.
>>>>> You could also try to find a plastics production shop to fabricate a
>>> set.
>>>>> Try Norva plastics in Norfolk Virginia. If you send them the good one
>>> they
>>>>> may make you two new ones. They've done work for me in KingStarboard
>>>>> several years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://norvaplastics.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Todd T.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 9:24 PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a cracked port side rudder check plate and am wondering what is
>>> the
>>>>>> best way to repair or replace it? I have a 1990 Rhodes. I am not a
>>> member
>>>>>> of the GB parts club. Any help would be appreciated. Hoping to take
>>> care
>>>>>> of this in the early off season ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>> Hornblower 2
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 21
>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 20:48:01 -0500
>>>>> From: Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder cheek plate
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <CANbEFCviibdgn9JPFBpMoUinzCNqh3KSYHQkJfZUPuLN9MwmDg at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there different strengths or if I get the same thickness it should
>>>>> suffice? Thanks Todd!
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 8:30 PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would suggest buying some black UHMWPE and fabricating two new cheek
>>>>>> plates yourself.
>>>>>> You could also try to find a plastics production shop to fabricate a
>>> set.
>>>>>> Try Norva plastics in Norfolk Virginia. If you send them the good one
>>> they
>>>>>> may make you two new ones. They've done work for me in KingStarboard
>>>>>> several years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://norvaplastics.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Todd T.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 9:24 PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a cracked port side rudder check plate and am wondering what is
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> best way to repair or replace it? I have a 1990 Rhodes. I am not a
>>>>>> member
>>>>>>> of the GB parts club. Any help would be appreciated. Hoping to take
>>>>>> care
>>>>>>> of this in the early off season ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>>> Hornblower 2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 22
>>>>> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 00:18:10 -0400
>>>>> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>>>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder cheek plate
>>>>> Message-ID: <003b01d7c4a0$5405b2b0$fc111810$@ebsmed.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you make a pair, be sure that you specify that you need both sides
>>> and that they are mirror images with respect to the edge bevels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Todd Tavares
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:31 PM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rudder cheek plate
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would suggest buying some black UHMWPE and fabricating two new cheek
>>> plates yourself.
>>>>> You could also try to find a plastics production shop to fabricate a
>>> set.
>>>>> Try Norva plastics in Norfolk Virginia. If you send them the good one
>>> they may make you two new ones. They've done work for me in KingStarboard
>>> several years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://norvaplastics.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Todd T.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 9:24 PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a cracked port side rudder check plate and am wondering what is
>>>>>> the best way to repair or replace it? I have a 1990 Rhodes. I am not
>>>>>> a member of the GB parts club. Any help would be appreciated. Hoping
>>>>>> to take care of this in the early off season ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>> Hornblower 2
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Digest Footer
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Rhodes22-list mailing list
>>>>> Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>> http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> End of Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4389, Issue 1
>>>>> **********************************************
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 13:39:50 -0400
> From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boat show report
> Message-ID:
> <CAB-twMMmxMXw-m+uZYGaMskVwMWh1fHysnGhX3LUOgkN+vJ73g at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Stan
> Congratulations on the sale!! ...and on the successful show.
>
> Todd Tavares
>
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 11:55 AM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>>
>> Another show, another milestone.
>>
>> Back at the grind the backed up emails have taken over the one man
>> office so patience is requested.
>>
>> With death, strokes and other ailments taking a toll on the production
>> end, Rhodes wannabes have reached record highs; the one boat at the show
>> (compared to the usual 4) was sold at the opening bell of the first
>> day. A million thanks for getting that one boat to the show goes to
>> multi Rhodes owner John McLaughlin who gave up time from his own
>> business to make that happen. And equal thanks to long time owner
>> Michael Corley who managed retrieving the show boat from the show in
>> spite of the wood ramp the show had built to our exhibit area,
>> collapsing under the weight of superior built Rhodes. Thanks also to
>> Bill Wickman and Chris Geankoplis who came to tell prospects of their
>> world travels in their Rhodes plus steadied the wobbly legs of the old
>> man of the sea whenever I tried walking on land.
>>
>> Can't send an email to the list without including a GB commercial:
>> The Rhodes Dry Marina is open for reservations for periods of one month
>> to one year terms for those appreciating sailing the Albemarle; the
>> second largest estuary in the country that lets you sail off to anywhere
>> in the world yet has no tide or current. Your boat remains fully rigged
>> ready to sail any day, any hour and you are under way in minutes.
>>
>> stan
>>
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 13:14:46 -0500
> From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Detail fail?
> Message-ID:
> <CAEqJHY7L6pnRT4F0ZnSKiBjte4Mp8F58eSPz6wcJNFsrd4ey8g at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> They said they have never seen a boat do this from their cleaning?
>
> Thoughts?
>
> The rest of the boat looks great... But for a $800+ full detail....
>
> It was showroom clean at the beginning of the season.
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 13:24:37 -0500
> From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First Time
> Message-ID:
> <CAEqJHY4Md8VZRyDEnH0mw6CnC-9XSnxRKMARmGuMBvacQy8vgQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Fwiw
>
> Hook crane up to stand up. Chains on forward stays, forestay back to mast.
> Lower.
>
>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021, 9:38 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>>
>> Wilson,
>>
>> I suspect that you are using the chains in the wrong place.
>>
>> There has been more than one version of the mast lifting system, but I
>> only know the details of the one I have (circa 2016). I'll just have to
>> assume that yours is the same .
>>
>> When you are going to raise the mast, the mast crane should start out
>> tipped a little aft of vertical. The aft lower shrouds are attached
>> directly to the mast crane. The upper shrouds are connected to their
>> chainplates. The forward lower shrouds should also be connected to their
>> chainplates, but they won't reach. This is where the chains are used to
>> extend the forward lowers.
>>
>> When you get to the point where the mast is vertical, the mast crane will
>> be close to horizontal, but there should still be enough room to continue
>> to rotate the winch handle until the back stays are pretty tight, and the
>> forestay can be attached to its chainplate without too much struggle.
>>
>> Peter Nyberg
>> Coventry, CT
>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>>
>>>> On 2021-10-19, at 22:02:11 EDT, Wilson Cook wrote:
>>>
>>> The previous owner told me the chains on the list needed to be one link
>> short.
>>> But I could not for the life of me get the pin in the headstay
>> chainplate.
>>> Lowered it put in second link-closer but no cigar. Lowered again-put in
>> third
>>> link and was able to crank it down far enough. If crank handle was
>> parallel to
>>> deck instead perpendicular would have had another turn.
>>>
>>> As I mentioned earlier I think something was binding at the masthead
>> because
>>> when it popped the headstay was looser.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 13:53:25 -0500
> From: Jeffrey Camiel <forg3d at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First Time
> Message-ID: <2DAF0058-2B47-4A34-A291-FB9DE46E8734 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Folks,
> How long are the chains for the forward stays?
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 20, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Fwiw
>>
>> Hook crane up to stand up. Chains on forward stays, forestay back to mast.
>> Lower.
>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021, 9:38 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wilson,
>>>
>>> I suspect that you are using the chains in the wrong place.
>>>
>>> There has been more than one version of the mast lifting system, but I
>>> only know the details of the one I have (circa 2016). I'll just have to
>>> assume that yours is the same .
>>>
>>> When you are going to raise the mast, the mast crane should start out
>>> tipped a little aft of vertical. The aft lower shrouds are attached
>>> directly to the mast crane. The upper shrouds are connected to their
>>> chainplates. The forward lower shrouds should also be connected to their
>>> chainplates, but they won't reach. This is where the chains are used to
>>> extend the forward lowers.
>>>
>>> When you get to the point where the mast is vertical, the mast crane will
>>> be close to horizontal, but there should still be enough room to continue
>>> to rotate the winch handle until the back stays are pretty tight, and the
>>> forestay can be attached to its chainplate without too much struggle.
>>>
>>> Peter Nyberg
>>> Coventry, CT
>>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>>>
>>>>> On 2021-10-19, at 22:02:11 EDT, Wilson Cook wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The previous owner told me the chains on the list needed to be one link
>>> short.
>>>> But I could not for the life of me get the pin in the headstay
>>> chainplate.
>>>> Lowered it put in second link-closer but no cigar. Lowered again-put in
>>> third
>>>> link and was able to crank it down far enough. If crank handle was
>>> parallel to
>>>> deck instead perpendicular would have had another turn.
>>>>
>>>> As I mentioned earlier I think something was binding at the masthead
>>> because
>>>> when it popped the headstay was looser.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 13:56:08 -0500
> From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First Time
> Message-ID:
> <CAEqJHY6LAf9VRUcXShnOGFMjLscgLyzeWVY1wGd_KmirHk=8Aw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I don't have them on hand to measure.
> Iirc, and I'm sure someone will correct/confirm, two 1/4" OD snap carbineer
> with 8 loops of 1/4" OD galvanized chain.
>
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 1:53 PM Jeffrey Camiel <forg3d at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>> How long are the chains for the forward stays?
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 20, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Tom Van Heule <
>> tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Fwiw
>>>
>>> Hook crane up to stand up. Chains on forward stays, forestay back to
>> mast.
>>> Lower.
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021, 9:38 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wilson,
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that you are using the chains in the wrong place.
>>>>
>>>> There has been more than one version of the mast lifting system, but I
>>>> only know the details of the one I have (circa 2016). I'll just have
>> to
>>>> assume that yours is the same .
>>>>
>>>> When you are going to raise the mast, the mast crane should start out
>>>> tipped a little aft of vertical. The aft lower shrouds are attached
>>>> directly to the mast crane. The upper shrouds are connected to their
>>>> chainplates. The forward lower shrouds should also be connected to
>> their
>>>> chainplates, but they won't reach. This is where the chains are used to
>>>> extend the forward lowers.
>>>>
>>>> When you get to the point where the mast is vertical, the mast crane
>> will
>>>> be close to horizontal, but there should still be enough room to
>> continue
>>>> to rotate the winch handle until the back stays are pretty tight, and
>> the
>>>> forestay can be attached to its chainplate without too much struggle.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Nyberg
>>>> Coventry, CT
>>>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>>>>
>>>>>> On 2021-10-19, at 22:02:11 EDT, Wilson Cook wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The previous owner told me the chains on the list needed to be one link
>>>> short.
>>>>> But I could not for the life of me get the pin in the headstay
>>>> chainplate.
>>>>> Lowered it put in second link-closer but no cigar. Lowered again-put in
>>>> third
>>>>> link and was able to crank it down far enough. If crank handle was
>>>> parallel to
>>>>> deck instead perpendicular would have had another turn.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I mentioned earlier I think something was binding at the masthead
>>>> because
>>>>> when it popped the headstay was looser.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 15:05:02 -0400
> From: Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boat show report
> Message-ID: <47140BD9-34B3-4425-8ACE-62ACD71B9918 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Ditto from me ? great news about a successful boat show for GB and Stan!
>
> Frank Goldsmith
> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
> Fairview, NC
> Lake Keowee, SC
>
>> On Oct 20, 2021, at 1:39 PM, Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Stan
>> Congratulations on the sale!! ...and on the successful show.
>>
>> Todd Tavares
>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 11:55 AM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Another show, another milestone.
>>>
>>> Back at the grind the backed up emails have taken over the one man
>>> office so patience is requested.
>>>
>>> With death, strokes and other ailments taking a toll on the production
>>> end, Rhodes wannabes have reached record highs; the one boat at the show
>>> (compared to the usual 4) was sold at the opening bell of the first
>>> day. A million thanks for getting that one boat to the show goes to
>>> multi Rhodes owner John McLaughlin who gave up time from his own
>>> business to make that happen. And equal thanks to long time owner
>>> Michael Corley who managed retrieving the show boat from the show in
>>> spite of the wood ramp the show had built to our exhibit area,
>>> collapsing under the weight of superior built Rhodes. Thanks also to
>>> Bill Wickman and Chris Geankoplis who came to tell prospects of their
>>> world travels in their Rhodes plus steadied the wobbly legs of the old
>>> man of the sea whenever I tried walking on land.
>>>
>>> Can't send an email to the list without including a GB commercial:
>>> The Rhodes Dry Marina is open for reservations for periods of one month
>>> to one year terms for those appreciating sailing the Albemarle; the
>>> second largest estuary in the country that lets you sail off to anywhere
>>> in the world yet has no tide or current. Your boat remains fully rigged
>>> ready to sail any day, any hour and you are under way in minutes.
>>>
>>> stan
>>>
>>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 15:11:06 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RHODES WEAR
> Message-ID: <002e01d7c5e6$3c659840$b530c8c0$@ebsmed.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hey Joe,
>
> Maybe you could send one to Stan.
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> I'd rather be sailing :~)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Joe
> Dempsey
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 1:00 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] RHODES WEAR
>
> Hey Rhodies! If you haven't yet ordered your hats and/or shirts, because of
> the success of these caps among List members, I ordered extras and will have
> some remaining. The hats look great, show your loyalty to the Rhodes 22 and
> order now to get your hat in just a week, first come, first served! I'll
> order more when these are gone.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 19:14:22 +0000
> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Detail fail?
> Message-ID:
> <CH2PR02MB692032FC91A6CC7318F6B47180BE9 at CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> Tom,
>
> Any chance they had some hydroblasting media mixed into their pressure washer that day? Is their liability insurance going to cover it?
>
> Since the bottom is obviously down to the FRP substrate, you are going to have to refinish the bottom. May I recommend WEST system epoxy with their 422 barrier coat additive. At least you won?t have to worry about osmotic blisters!
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
>
> From: Tom Van Heule<mailto:tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 2:15 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Detail fail?
>
> They said they have never seen a boat do this from their cleaning?
>
> Thoughts?
>
> The rest of the boat looks great... But for a $800+ full detail....
>
> It was showroom clean at the beginning of the season.
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 19:24:31 +0000
> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> To: Wilson Cook <reefnsail123 at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time
> Message-ID:
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> Hi Wilson,
>
> I?ve been thinking about what might have ?popped? at the masthead and then the forestay was looser. There is a toggle joint where the forestay attaches to the masthead casting. When you are trailering the boat or setting the mast up to be stepped, this toggle joint can get folded back onto itself, thus using up about 1-1/2? of forestay. I believe your toggle joint got stuck in the folded position until quite a bit of tension was applied to the forestay and then it straightened itself out with a loud ?pop?. Checking the position of the toggle joint is something to add to your checklist.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
>
> From: Wilson Cook via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:57 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] First time
>
> So I erected my mast for the first time yesterday. I hope there is a short learning curve. Took a while but I was single handed Biggest challenge was the headstay. Took everything I had after shortening chains twice. Once it was finally up and I was tensioning backstays something ?popped? at the masthead and then forestay was looser.
>
> Related question- there is a block and tackle across the backstays but there is no cleat?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 12:24:55 -0700
> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Email List Usage Guidelines Reminder
> Message-ID: <E1mdHCp-007Xq8-W2 at s152.servername.online>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Here are two things that make the archives less useful:
> 1) off topic subject lines
> 2) extraneous quoted content that is not pertinent to the topic at hand.
>
> It's especially important to keep these things in mind when a thread is started or extended by a reply to a daily digest, as opposed to an individual post. The daily digest emails can be pretty big, will usually have lots and lots of text that has no relevance to the current discussion, and their subject lines are never on topic.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Peter
>
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 19:39:25 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Mark West <keywestseccorp at verizon.net>
> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time
> Message-ID: <1363538359.2680646.1634758765597 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I agree with Rodger also check backstays? as mast is raised up had one bind up
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> To: Wilson Cook <reefnsail123 at yahoo.com>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wed, Oct 20, 2021 3:24 pm
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] First time
>
> Hi Wilson,
>
> I?ve been thinking about what might have ?popped? at the masthead and then the forestay was looser.? There is a toggle joint where the forestay attaches to the masthead casting.? When you are trailering the boat or setting the mast up to be stepped, this toggle joint can get folded back onto itself, thus using up about 1-1/2? of forestay.? I believe your toggle joint got stuck in the folded position until quite a bit of tension was applied to the forestay and then it straightened itself out with a loud ?pop?.? Checking the position of the toggle joint is something to add to your checklist.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
>
> From: Wilson Cook via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:57 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] First time
>
> So I erected my mast for the first time yesterday. I hope there is a short learning curve. Took a while but I was single handed? Biggest challenge was the headstay. Took everything I had after shortening chains twice. Once it was finally up and I was tensioning backstays something ?popped? at the masthead and then forestay was looser.
>
> Related question- there is a block and tackle across the backstays but there is no cleat?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
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