[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4412, Issue 1
JP
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Wed Feb 2 10:17:20 EST 2022
I have been having the same issue. Ha ing to copy the list address, rhodes-22 at rhodes22.org, then go to my email and paste the address seems to be the only way I can post. Replying (from the Archive list) doesn't seem to get posted.
Joe Dempsey
S/V Respite
Marshall, VA
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for sale (stan)
2. Re: Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for sale (Bob Garrant)
3. Re: Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for sale (RODNEY BROWN)
4. Re: Hello from Oklahoma, new Rhodes owner (Mark West)
5. Re: Hello from Oklahoma, new Rhodes owner (Jesse Shumaker)
6. Re: Hello from Oklahoma, new Rhodes owner (Brian Ferguson)
7. 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole (Jeff Smith Photo)
8. Re: 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole (Graham Parker)
9. Re: Bilge Pump Questions (chuy carreon)
10. Re: Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for sale (stan)
11. Re: Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for sale (Rodney Brown)
12. Re: 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole (Michael McKay)
13. 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole (Jeff Smith Photo)
14. Re: 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole (ROGER PIHLAJA)
15. Re: 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole (Graham Parker)
16. Re: 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole (ROGER PIHLAJA)
17. Re: 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole (Graham Parker)
18. Whisker Pole (Jeff Smith Photo)
19. Re: Whisker Pole (Graham Parker)
20. Remote Control & Receiver available (Bob Garrant)
21. Re: Tiller Pilot Recommendations (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
22. Re: Tiller Pilot Recommendations (Peter Nyberg)
23. Help a rookie out: How to post a reply to a thread (RODNEY BROWN)
24. Re: Help a rookie out: How to post a reply to a thread
(Peter Nyberg)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 19:53:36 -0500
From: stan <stan at generalboats.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for
sale
Message-ID: <8de80cc0-d089-5ada-1b2a-bf5b89401814 at generalboats.com>
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Rodney,
This is Stan, builder of your boat.? Charles has been kind enough to
handle the parts part of the business and will hopefully continue to do
so.? I have been off line with some computer problems and this is my
first try since its repair; hope it's working.
While owning a Rhodes is like wearing a badge of how bright its owner
is, and while looking to the Rhodes List will get you the best answers
your questioning can find anywhere on land or sea, questions like yours
are best directed to me.? The reason, a terrible dumb notion that if we
come up with a better way, we do it in the next boat. This can have
owners familiar with what is on their year boat and anxious to help you,
not necessarily tuned into how your year boat is built.
Send an email to me at <stan at generalboats.com>and I will go over the
technicalities re this upgrading.
stan
On 1/25/22 6:13 PM, R Brown wrote:
> Charlie, I?m new to the Rhodes group, just purchased a 2001, and was wondering if your tiller/motor connector is still available?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rodney.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 20:21:20 -0500
From: Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for
sale
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Stan,
I would like to get the tiller/motor connector for my Rhodes 2000 that I
purchased from General Boats in 2017.
I previously purchased General Boats parts through Charles and the
transaction went very smoothly.
Regards,
Bob Garrant
Kent Island, MD
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 7:53 PM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> Rodney,
>
> This is Stan, builder of your boat. Charles has been kind enough to
> handle the parts part of the business and will hopefully continue to do
> so. I have been off line with some computer problems and this is my
> first try since its repair; hope it's working.
>
> While owning a Rhodes is like wearing a badge of how bright its owner
> is, and while looking to the Rhodes List will get you the best answers
> your questioning can find anywhere on land or sea, questions like yours
> are best directed to me. The reason, a terrible dumb notion that if we
> come up with a better way, we do it in the next boat. This can have
> owners familiar with what is on their year boat and anxious to help you,
> not necessarily tuned into how your year boat is built.
>
> Send an email to me at <stan at generalboats.com>and I will go over the
> technicalities re this upgrading.
>
> stan
>
>
> On 1/25/22 6:13 PM, R Brown wrote:
> > Charlie, I?m new to the Rhodes group, just purchased a 2001, and was
> wondering if your tiller/motor connector is still available?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rodney.
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 19:53:11 -0600
From: RODNEY BROWN <rnelson204 at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for
sale
Message-ID: <851D5CB3-3CC7-4EA5-9FC5-732F005171DD at gmail.com>
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Thanks for the info Stan, do you have Charlie?s contact to follow up on the availability of traveller and motor-tiller unit? Thanks again for your help, and for taking time to get back to me. Seems your computer bugs seemed to be ironed out.
Sincerely,
Rodney Brown
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 6:53 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>
> Rodney,
>
> This is Stan, builder of your boat. Charles has been kind enough to handle the parts part of the business and will hopefully continue to do so. I have been off line with some computer problems and this is my first try since its repair; hope it's working.
>
> While owning a Rhodes is like wearing a badge of how bright its owner is, and while looking to the Rhodes List will get you the best answers your questioning can find anywhere on land or sea, questions like yours are best directed to me. The reason, a terrible dumb notion that if we come up with a better way, we do it in the next boat. This can have owners familiar with what is on their year boat and anxious to help you, not necessarily tuned into how your year boat is built.
>
> Send an email to me at <stan at generalboats.com>and I will go over the technicalities re this upgrading.
>
> stan
>
>
> On 1/25/22 6:13 PM, R Brown wrote:
>> Charlie, I?m new to the Rhodes group, just purchased a 2001, and was wondering if your tiller/motor connector is still available?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rodney.
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 14:38:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: Mark West <keywestseccorp at verizon.net>
To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello from Oklahoma, new Rhodes owner
Message-ID: <501660946.1340413.1643207922407 at mail.yahoo.com>
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Rodney Welcome to the Rhodes Family lots of knowledge ,Experience here to help?
Mark and Connie Wesr? ?Hertford NC.?
S/V Fairwinds II? ? 89 Rhodes 22
-----Original Message-----
From: R Brown <rnelson204 at gmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Sent: Tue, Jan 25, 2022 6:09 pm
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Hello from Oklahoma, new Rhodes owner
Hello from OKC :)? I purchased a 2001 Rhodes? a couple of weeks ago and had a questioner the group, is the Rhodes Owner Coop still available to join??
Thanks,
Rodney
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 08:46:02 -0600
From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello from Oklahoma, new Rhodes owner
Message-ID:
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Welcome Rodney! There's a few other R22s in the midwest including one in
Kansas and a couple where I sail at Lake Manawa in Iowa.
Where do you sail in OKC?
Jesse Shumaker
S/V Zephyr
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 5:10 PM R Brown <rnelson204 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello from OKC :) I purchased a 2001 Rhodes a couple of weeks ago and
> had a questioner the group, is the Rhodes Owner Coop still available to
> join?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rodney
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 10:49:38 -0500
From: Brian Ferguson <brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello from Oklahoma, new Rhodes owner
Message-ID:
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Rodney,
Welcome to the best owners club out there. I used to live in Lawton. I
figure you sail Lake Hefner. You might try sailing Lake Ellsworth for a
slightly different experience. The mountain down there plays with the wind
direction a little making for a fun challenge..
On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 9:46 AM Jesse Shumaker <
jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> Welcome Rodney! There's a few other R22s in the midwest including one in
> Kansas and a couple where I sail at Lake Manawa in Iowa.
>
> Where do you sail in OKC?
>
> Jesse Shumaker
> S/V Zephyr
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 5:10 PM R Brown <rnelson204 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello from OKC :) I purchased a 2001 Rhodes a couple of weeks ago and
> > had a questioner the group, is the Rhodes Owner Coop still available to
> > join?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rodney
>
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 10:54:15 -0500
From: Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
Message-ID:
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Last Spring I built a combination Boat Pole/ Whisker Pole Combo that is
stored upright in front of the mast. I fiberglassed a carabiner in one end
and a boat pole tip into the other. When used as a whisker pole the boat
pole tip is inserted into the clew of the 135% genoa and the carabiner end
clips on to a bale on the mast.
<https://www.jeffsmithphoto.net/Boats/Whisker-Boat-Pole/n-WnpmmF/>.
To store, the carabiner end slides up on the mast secured by a large bale
that was a part of the mast raising system and the boat pole end rests in
the lower mast bale. There are two pieces of swim tubes attached to prevent
rattling. The outer yellow pole was wrapped in blue 3M electrical tape to
match the color scheme of Radiant.
https://www.truevalue.com/6-to-12-ft-fiberglass-extension-pole
Best regards,
Jeff Smith
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 11:08:43 -0500
From: Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
Message-ID: <0C7ED6DD-1B20-4A92-9786-F9A1958DDED7 at tds.net>
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Very impressive Jeff, but nice and simple too. Can you explain or send a photo of the bale set up?
Also, I am planning on setting up a simple jibe preventer for my downwind journeys. Details of other systems gratefully received.
Graham
'sv 00Sailin?
> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:54, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Last Spring I built a combination Boat Pole/ Whisker Pole Combo that is
> stored upright in front of the mast. I fiberglassed a carabiner in one end
> and a boat pole tip into the other. When used as a whisker pole the boat
> pole tip is inserted into the clew of the 135% genoa and the carabiner end
> clips on to a bale on the mast.
> <https://www.jeffsmithphoto.net/Boats/Whisker-Boat-Pole/n-WnpmmF/>.
> To store, the carabiner end slides up on the mast secured by a large bale
> that was a part of the mast raising system and the boat pole end rests in
> the lower mast bale. There are two pieces of swim tubes attached to prevent
> rattling. The outer yellow pole was wrapped in blue 3M electrical tape to
> match the color scheme of Radiant.
> https://www.truevalue.com/6-to-12-ft-fiberglass-extension-pole
>
> Best regards,
> Jeff Smith
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 11:28:31 -0500 (EST)
From: chuy carreon <chcarreon at cox.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, Peter
Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bilge Pump Questions
Message-ID: <1282330450.3358047.1643214511558 at myemail.cox.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Thanks Peter,
Like all the videos on your fixing projects on Silverheels. I will have to locate the on the flooring.
Take care,
Chuy Carreon
Tempe, Arizona
> On January 24, 2022 at 10:56 AM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com mailto:peter at sunnybeeches.com > wrote:
>
>
> I agree with the sentiment with which Roger ended his post. I can think of very few scenarios where a bilge pump will avert a disaster. His example of preventing a boat from sinking at the dock is one, but only in the situation where the boat is connected to shore power, which is configured to keep the battery charged, and where the charging rate is as least as great as the bulge pump power draw.
>
> One of the first projects I did on Silverheels (video #7: https://youtu.be/VywOqYXqzYg) was to replace the plywood and carpet floor installed by General Boat with oak flooring. This was high on my to-do list because the carpet made the bilge difficult to access. Now, the bilge is easy to check, and when I find water (my hull-deck joint leaks), it's a quick job to take care of it with a bucket, a cup, and a sponge.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
> > > On 2022-01-24, at 08:08:25 EST, ROGER PIHLAJA wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > ...
> > If you hit something and make a hole below the waterline, the inflow of
> > water will quickly overwhelm the bilge pump. It?s really just an insurance
> > policy against your boat sinking at the dock when you are not there.
> >
> > >
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 20:37:16 -0500
From: stan <stan at generalboats.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for
sale
Message-ID: <a9991296-74ff-56d2-d11b-c321998e3809 at generalboats.com>
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Rodney and Crew,
Before I forget here is Charles direct contact info:
??? Charles Gabriel <charles.gabriel at gmail.com>
The info on your two initial items of interest is a mixed bag. The new
traveler invention is one of those middle of the night inspirations that
it turned out we can build all of, in-house. When we discovered that
Yamaha had finally discovered sailboats and built a motor perfect for
our needs (standard 20 inch long shaft, high thrust meaning low RPM
motor sporting a larger 4 bladed sailboat pitch prop) along with both
its speed and direction controls in a single fitting that mounts on the
sailboat's tiller, we were in heaven.? We knew that coming up with a
linkage system from the Rhodes rudder head to that motor is what we do
in our sleep and we are going to have an outboard auxiliary set up like
no other. And we did; and owners loved it.?? But
?? ??? ???? to be continued? . . . .
ss
On 1/25/22 8:53 PM, RODNEY BROWN wrote:
> Thanks for the info Stan, do you have Charlie?s contact to follow up on the availability of traveller and motor-tiller unit? Thanks again for your help, and for taking time to get back to me. Seems your computer bugs seemed to be ironed out.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Rodney Brown
>
>
>
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 6:53 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>>
>> Rodney,
>>
>> This is Stan, builder of your boat. Charles has been kind enough to handle the parts part of the business and will hopefully continue to do so. I have been off line with some computer problems and this is my first try since its repair; hope it's working.
>>
>> While owning a Rhodes is like wearing a badge of how bright its owner is, and while looking to the Rhodes List will get you the best answers your questioning can find anywhere on land or sea, questions like yours are best directed to me. The reason, a terrible dumb notion that if we come up with a better way, we do it in the next boat. This can have owners familiar with what is on their year boat and anxious to help you, not necessarily tuned into how your year boat is built.
>>
>> Send an email to me at <stan at generalboats.com>and I will go over the technicalities re this upgrading.
>>
>> stan
>>
>>
>> On 1/25/22 6:13 PM, R Brown wrote:
>>> Charlie, I?m new to the Rhodes group, just purchased a 2001, and was wondering if your tiller/motor connector is still available?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Rodney.
> .
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 19:38:39 -0600
From: Rodney Brown <rnelson204 at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for
sale
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Thanks Stan! Appreciate you sending this ?
On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 19:37 stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>
> Rodney and Crew,
>
> Before I forget here is Charles direct contact info:
>
> Charles Gabriel <charles.gabriel at gmail.com>
>
> The info on your two initial items of interest is a mixed bag. The new
> traveler invention is one of those middle of the night inspirations that
> it turned out we can build all of, in-house. When we discovered that
> Yamaha had finally discovered sailboats and built a motor perfect for
> our needs (standard 20 inch long shaft, high thrust meaning low RPM
> motor sporting a larger 4 bladed sailboat pitch prop) along with both
> its speed and direction controls in a single fitting that mounts on the
> sailboat's tiller, we were in heaven. We knew that coming up with a
> linkage system from the Rhodes rudder head to that motor is what we do
> in our sleep and we are going to have an outboard auxiliary set up like
> no other. And we did; and owners loved it. But
> to be continued . . . .
>
> ss
>
>
> On 1/25/22 8:53 PM, RODNEY BROWN wrote:
> > Thanks for the info Stan, do you have Charlie?s contact to follow up on
> the availability of traveller and motor-tiller unit? Thanks again for your
> help, and for taking time to get back to me. Seems your computer bugs
> seemed to be ironed out.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Rodney Brown
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 6:53 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Rodney,
> >>
> >> This is Stan, builder of your boat. Charles has been kind enough to
> handle the parts part of the business and will hopefully continue to do
> so. I have been off line with some computer problems and this is my first
> try since its repair; hope it's working.
> >>
> >> While owning a Rhodes is like wearing a badge of how bright its owner
> is, and while looking to the Rhodes List will get you the best answers your
> questioning can find anywhere on land or sea, questions like yours are best
> directed to me. The reason, a terrible dumb notion that if we come up with
> a better way, we do it in the next boat. This can have owners familiar with
> what is on their year boat and anxious to help you, not necessarily tuned
> into how your year boat is built.
> >>
> >> Send an email to me at <stan at generalboats.com>and I will go over the
> technicalities re this upgrading.
> >>
> >> stan
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/25/22 6:13 PM, R Brown wrote:
> >>> Charlie, I?m new to the Rhodes group, just purchased a 2001, and was
> wondering if your tiller/motor connector is still available?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Rodney.
> > .
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 23:06:03 -0500
From: Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
Message-ID: <920EF391-4C52-40F7-A77A-679007526E4C at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Jeff,
Thanks for sharing this. I have been hoping to add a whisker pole to my boat.
Question: did you rig guys to control the position of the pole or do you just use the jib sheets?
Michael McKay
(630) 209-2054 (m)
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?Last Spring I built a combination Boat Pole/ Whisker Pole Combo that is
> stored upright in front of the mast. I fiberglassed a carabiner in one end
> and a boat pole tip into the other. When used as a whisker pole the boat
> pole tip is inserted into the clew of the 135% genoa and the carabiner end
> clips on to a bale on the mast.
> <https://www.jeffsmithphoto.net/Boats/Whisker-Boat-Pole/n-WnpmmF/>.
> To store, the carabiner end slides up on the mast secured by a large bale
> that was a part of the mast raising system and the boat pole end rests in
> the lower mast bale. There are two pieces of swim tubes attached to prevent
> rattling. The outer yellow pole was wrapped in blue 3M electrical tape to
> match the color scheme of Radiant.
> https://www.truevalue.com/6-to-12-ft-fiberglass-extension-pole
>
> Best regards,
> Jeff Smith
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 10:01:59 -0500
From: Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
https://www.jeffsmithphoto.net/Boats/Whisker-Boat-Pole/n-WnpmmF/
I have cropped into the shot of the pole on the mast. it should give an
idea of the 2 bales. Maybe best viewed on a computer for detail. So far I
have just used the sheets for control, but may add a downhaul. In the shots
shown it was blowing 15-18 knots and there was not too much spill from the
top of the jib.
I should have said "epoxied" instead of "fiberglassed" in the original
post. More closeups of the 2 ends of the pole were added.
Best regards,
Jeff
JeffSmithPhoto.Net
w <http://NJphoto.Net>ww.jeffsmithphoto.net
Cell: 732-236-1368
Atlantic Highlands, NJ
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 16:41:09 +0000
From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
Hi All,
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium has a whisker pole and a spinnaker pole. Both poles are rigged with double bridles for a topping lift and a vang. In light air, the weight of the pole tends to collapse the headsail. You need the topping lift to support the weight of the pole and allow the headsail to inflate. Conversely, in heavy air, the clew of the headsail tends to rise up and cause an inefficient, unstable, too full sail shape. You need the vang to hold the clew of the headsail down.
Using a double bridle for the topping lift and the vang keeps the snap shackles over the foredeck vs out at the end of the pole. This enables an end for end pole swap when gibing the headsail, which is safer on this size boat, especially in heavy air.
When sailing, I stow the whisker pole and spinnaker pole in chocks mounted on the cabin roof and foredeck. This keeps the windage and weight down low and won?t catch a sheet or the genoa clew when tacking. At a dock or at anchor, I can store my poles vertically up against the front of the mast. This clears the foredeck of tripping hazards when you want to lounge up there. I wind the double bridles around the poles and secure them with Velcro straps to secure them for storage. It?s a racing setup; but, it works very well for cruising.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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From: Jeff Smith Photo<mailto:jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 7:02 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
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I have cropped into the shot of the pole on the mast. it should give an
idea of the 2 bales. Maybe best viewed on a computer for detail. So far I
have just used the sheets for control, but may add a downhaul. In the shots
shown it was blowing 15-18 knots and there was not too much spill from the
top of the jib.
I should have said "epoxied" instead of "fiberglassed" in the original
post. More closeups of the 2 ends of the pole were added.
Best regards,
Jeff
JeffSmithPhoto.Net
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 11:53:03 -0500
From: Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
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Thanks Jeff,
A photo (or in this case, photos) is worth a thousand words.
I still have a question though.
Why am I seeing two bulbous coverings of blue tape when I only see one bulbous spot on the origin pole. Is that just for storage against the mast?
Stan, if your computer is working, I would love to see your thoughts on the use of a whisker pole when wing on wing and also your thoughts on using a jibe preventer?
Any thoughts from other Rhodies obviously welcome too!
G
> On Jan 27, 2022, at 10:01, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> https://www.jeffsmithphoto.net/Boats/Whisker-Boat-Pole/n-WnpmmF/
> I have cropped into the shot of the pole on the mast. it should give an
> idea of the 2 bales. Maybe best viewed on a computer for detail. So far I
> have just used the sheets for control, but may add a downhaul. In the shots
> shown it was blowing 15-18 knots and there was not too much spill from the
> top of the jib.
> I should have said "epoxied" instead of "fiberglassed" in the original
> post. More closeups of the 2 ends of the pole were added.
>
> Best regards,
> Jeff
> JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> w <http://NJphoto.Net>ww.jeffsmithphoto.net
> Cell: 732-236-1368
> Atlantic Highlands, NJ
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 16:55:15 +0000
From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
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Hi All,
The attached photo shows S/V Dynamic Equilibrium flying her triradial spinnaker on a light air close reach. You can see the topping lift attached to the double bridle on the spinnaker pole and led to a block on the mast at about ? mast height. From there, the topping lift is led down the mast and back to the cockpit. The vang is not rigged in this light air shot. The spinnaker pole is almost touching the forestay on this close reach.
Note how the sail is fully inflated despite the lack of wind.
You can also see the spinnaker snuffer sock all bunched up at the head of the spinnaker. I think the whisker pole was stowed down below in the cabin in this shot.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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From: ROGER PIHLAJA<mailto:roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 8:41 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
Hi All,
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium has a whisker pole and a spinnaker pole. Both poles are rigged with double bridles for a topping lift and a vang. In light air, the weight of the pole tends to collapse the headsail. You need the topping lift to support the weight of the pole and allow the headsail to inflate. Conversely, in heavy air, the clew of the headsail tends to rise up and cause an inefficient, unstable, too full sail shape. You need the vang to hold the clew of the headsail down.
Using a double bridle for the topping lift and the vang keeps the snap shackles over the foredeck vs out at the end of the pole. This enables an end for end pole swap when gibing the headsail, which is safer on this size boat, especially in heavy air.
When sailing, I stow the whisker pole and spinnaker pole in chocks mounted on the cabin roof and foredeck. This keeps the windage and weight down low and won?t catch a sheet or the genoa clew when tacking. At a dock or at anchor, I can store my poles vertically up against the front of the mast. This clears the foredeck of tripping hazards when you want to lounge up there. I wind the double bridles around the poles and secure them with Velcro straps to secure them for storage. It?s a racing setup; but, it works very well for cruising.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 7:02 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
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I have cropped into the shot of the pole on the mast. it should give an
idea of the 2 bales. Maybe best viewed on a computer for detail. So far I
have just used the sheets for control, but may add a downhaul. In the shots
shown it was blowing 15-18 knots and there was not too much spill from the
top of the jib.
I should have said "epoxied" instead of "fiberglassed" in the original
post. More closeups of the 2 ends of the pole were added.
Best regards,
Jeff
JeffSmithPhoto.Net
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:00:10 -0500
From: Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
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Hi Roger,.
That sounds like a great set up although I am too nervous a sailor to consider a spinnaker. However I really would like to figure a way to use a vang and/or preventer for the main on downwind runs. Any ideas or photos anyone?
Graham
'sv 00Sailin'
> On Jan 27, 2022, at 11:55, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> The attached photo shows S/V Dynamic Equilibrium flying her triradial spinnaker on a light air close reach. You can see the topping lift attached to the double bridle on the spinnaker pole and led to a block on the mast at about ? mast height. From there, the topping lift is led down the mast and back to the cockpit. The vang is not rigged in this light air shot. The spinnaker pole is almost touching the forestay on this close reach.
>
> Note how the sail is fully inflated despite the lack of wind.
>
> You can also see the spinnaker snuffer sock all bunched up at the head of the spinnaker. I think the whisker pole was stowed down below in the cabin in this shot.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D81374.5EDD86E0]
>
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>
> From: ROGER PIHLAJA<mailto:roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 8:41 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
>
> Hi All,
>
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium has a whisker pole and a spinnaker pole. Both poles are rigged with double bridles for a topping lift and a vang. In light air, the weight of the pole tends to collapse the headsail. You need the topping lift to support the weight of the pole and allow the headsail to inflate. Conversely, in heavy air, the clew of the headsail tends to rise up and cause an inefficient, unstable, too full sail shape. You need the vang to hold the clew of the headsail down.
>
> Using a double bridle for the topping lift and the vang keeps the snap shackles over the foredeck vs out at the end of the pole. This enables an end for end pole swap when gibing the headsail, which is safer on this size boat, especially in heavy air.
>
> When sailing, I stow the whisker pole and spinnaker pole in chocks mounted on the cabin roof and foredeck. This keeps the windage and weight down low and won?t catch a sheet or the genoa clew when tacking. At a dock or at anchor, I can store my poles vertically up against the front of the mast. This clears the foredeck of tripping hazards when you want to lounge up there. I wind the double bridles around the poles and secure them with Velcro straps to secure them for storage. It?s a racing setup; but, it works very well for cruising.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
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> From: Jeff Smith Photo<mailto:jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 7:02 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jeffsmithphoto.net%2FBoats%2FWhisker-Boat-Pole%2Fn-WnpmmF%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc8f1b0f4ab7b4ef4cb2f08d9e1b3d411%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637788984747997313%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=up5vNCAyZrqzr7STNcszYgxOp%2BQIt4uNfxAag%2FC0DLA%3D&reserved=0
> I have cropped into the shot of the pole on the mast. it should give an
> idea of the 2 bales. Maybe best viewed on a computer for detail. So far I
> have just used the sheets for control, but may add a downhaul. In the shots
> shown it was blowing 15-18 knots and there was not too much spill from the
> top of the jib.
> I should have said "epoxied" instead of "fiberglassed" in the original
> post. More closeups of the 2 ends of the pole were added.
>
> Best regards,
> Jeff
> JeffSmithPhoto.Net
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:52:55 -0500
From: Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
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The second bulge (which is probably pipe insulation rather than swim
noodles) was added to further stop rattling. They may also keep the pole
from sinking should it go overboard.
Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 08:28:27 -0500
From: Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
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> On Jan 28, 2022, at 7:53 AM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?The second bulge (which is probably pipe insulation rather than swim
> noodles) was added to further stop rattling. They may also keep the pole
> from sinking should it go overboard.
>
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> 732-236-1368
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 12:34:34 -0500
From: Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Remote Control & Receiver available
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I have a remote control & receiver available if someone needs it.
I purchased to replace the remote control for the electric motor lift that
came with Rhodes. The existing one was not reliable.
I then decided to have up-down switches installed next to the outboard
since I wanted to be next to the outboard as I was raising or lowering the
motor.
The package includes a remote fob, a received and instructions for
installation and troubleshooting.
See the attached picture.
Bob Garrant
Sail la Vie
Kent Island, MD
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 16:36:49 -0500
From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller Pilot Recommendations
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Hi Roger,
I am finally prepared to install a Tiller Pilot on s/v Liber and am hoping to get some additional advice before I start.
1) What is the best way to route the wiring harness to the starboard coaming pocket?
2) Did you connect your Tiller Pilot to the electric panel or bypass that and connect it to the house battery directly? I do understand that an inline fuse is required in either case.
I do plan on eventually installing a chartplotter and integrating the Tiller Pilot with that, but that is a project for another day.
Thank you for all your contributions to this forum!
Mike McKay
s/v Liber (2006/2018)
Allatoona Lake
Acworth, GA
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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of ROGER PIHLAJA
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 9:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller Pilot Recommendations
Mike,
I?ve had a Raymarine ST1000+ Tiller Pilot on S/V Dynamic Equilibrium for about 15 years. I found it most convenient to use the Raymarine Pedestal Socket to mount the ST1000+ onto the top of the gunnel. I believe I used the shortest socket assembly 38 mm (P/N: D026) to adjust the vertical position to level out the ST1000+ relative to the tiller. But, you should measure your boat before ordering this part. If the ST1000+ is not level relative to the tiller; then, the geometry changes as the actuator strokes and the effective gain of the controller will not be constant. Variable controller gain is not conducive to holding a steady course. You will also need some pushrod extensions. I believe I used the 152 mm (P/N: D008) + the 25 mm (P/N: D003) pushrod extensions. But, again, you should measure your boat before ordering these parts. On the tiller, I used the standard tiller pin, epoxied in place. Be careful to get compound angle of the pin correct on the tiller when yo
u drill the hole. Remember you only get one chance to drill this hole correctly. If you screw it up; then, the tiller is ruined! You want the pin to be vertical with the tiller fully lowered and located 460 mm from the centerline of the rudder?s pintles. The Pedestal Socket comes with a big backing plate to facilitate thru bolting. I did not reinforce the gunnel and have had no issues with structural failure. I mounted the waterproof plug and socket on the side of the cockpit coaming aft of the ST1000, so it would not obstruct seating while the ST1000+ is in use.
If you only want to use your ST1000+ as a basic autopilot with no communication to other instruments via the Seatalk bus or NMEA 0183 bus; then, all you need to provide is 12 amps DC power. The circuit should be separately fused. If you want to use the hand held remote &/or communicate with other instruments; then, contact me off the list and I will try to assist.
Basically, it?s a pretty easy installation although there are a few potential booby traps. The supplied owner?s handbook is pretty good. If you take your time, follow the instructions, and measure twice/cut once; then, you?ll be fine. It?s a very useful accessory and I really like mine. It?s been totally bulletproof.
My ST1000+ does best on points of sail forward of the beam, ie beam reaching up to close hauled. On points of sail aft of the beam, ie broad reach to a run, there is usually a following sea. When that following sea is hitting the boat from a stern quarter, it requires the helmsman to anticipate the effect of a wave by counter steering as the wave is passing under the boat. The ST1000+ (Or any autopilot) has no way to anticipate anything. So, it?s always in reactive mode and the steered course can look a little wobbly. It helps to reduce sail area and distribute the sail area fore/aft to keep the helm balanced. Of course, these are conditions that require the most skill and attention from a human helmsman as well. The ST1000+ is not as good at maintaining a downwind course as a skilled helmsman who is paying attention. But, it?s better than a newby helmsman or a tired &/or inattentive helmsman.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
From: Michael D. Weisner<mailto:mweisner at ebsmed.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 6:12 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller Pilot Recommendations
Ric,
I'm afraid to ask what you do that you could not do without it. ;-)
I love mine, too. And to think that I used to use a "tiller jock" to lock the tiller in place when I single handed with my two year old. With the autopilot, we could have both been sailing from the bow with our feet in the water using the remote to steer!
Mike
s/v Windlass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY
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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Ric Stott
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 5:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller Pilot Recommendations
Love love love my Raymarine autotiller.
Could not do what I do without it.
Ric
sv Dadventure
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> On Feb 18, 2021, at 5:30 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>
> ?I have the Raymarine ST1000. Actually, I depend on it so heavily, that I have two. I have had one stop working. I sent it back to Raymarine and they fixed it a no cost.
>
> Attached is a document created by Bill Wickman about his installation of the ST1000. I followed this pretty closely. However, at the point where the tiller pilot attaches to the cockpit combing, he said he found the fiberglass to be thick, and needed no reinforcement. I found the fiberglass to be quite thin at the point, and epoxied in a block of 3/4? thick hardwood.
>
> I have no experience with the Simrad.
>
> Good luck with your project.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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>> On Feb 18, 2021, at 5:13 PM, MichaelM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I'm hoping to install a Raymarine or Simrad tiller pilot in my boat.
>>
>> Can you share your experience with either unit and what challenges if
>> any did you encountered during the installation?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Mike McKay
>> s/v Liber 2006/2018
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 14:59:25 -0800
From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller Pilot Recommendations
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Mike,
I'm not Roger, but I'll offer some of my experience anyway.
First, I hope you've found Bill Wickman's write-up of the installation of a Raymarine ST-1000 on his boat: http://rhodes22.org/document.html?documents/TillerPilotSetuponRhodes22.pdf
To answer your second question first, I had an unused circuit on my electrical panel, and used that to power the tiller pilot. Since that placed a breaker into the circuit, I did not also include and inline fuse. It seems to me that would be redundant.
As for the routing of wires... If you have the standard General Boat galley, there's an area that's below the electrical panel, above the counter-top and behind the sliding panels. If you drill a hole in the aft panel of this area, you will have an opening into the interior space of the starboard coaming. Do this close to the hull, just to be sure you're not drilling a hole into the cockpit.
Best of luck,
Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
> On 2022-01-31, at 16:36:49 EST, Michael McKay wrote:
>
> Hi Roger,
>
> I am finally prepared to install a Tiller Pilot on s/v Liber and am hoping to
> get some additional advice before I start.
>
> 1) What is the best way to route the wiring harness to the starboard coaming
> pocket?
> 2) Did you connect your Tiller Pilot to the electric panel or bypass that and
> connect it to the house battery directly? I do understand that an inline fuse
> is required in either case.
>
> I do plan on eventually installing a chartplotter and integrating the Tiller
> Pilot with that, but that is a project for another day.
>
> Thank you for all your contributions to this forum!
>
> Mike McKay
> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> Allatoona Lake
> Acworth, GA
>
>
>
>
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 19:29:23 -0600
From: RODNEY BROWN <rnelson204 at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help a rookie out: How to post a reply to a
thread
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Gang , I?m beyond embarrassed at this point, but when I in the archive view, I can?t for the life of me figure out to reply to an topic or thread? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Rodney
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2022 18:45:36 -0800
From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help a rookie out: How to post a reply to
a thread
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Rodney,
Although you can see the archive of messages in a web page, this is strictly an email list*. The only way to start new threads or respond to an existing thread is by sending an email to the list.
Are you getting postings from the list in your email inbox?
--Peter
* This may change in the future, but at its core, it will still be an email list.
> On 2022-02-01, at 20:29:23 EST, RODNEY BROWN wrote:
>
> Gang , I?m beyond embarrassed at this point, but when I in the archive view, I
> can?t for the life of me figure out to reply to an topic or thread? Any help
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Rodney
>
>
>
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