[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4416, Issue 1
Stephen CongdonCLU
sjcclu at msn.com
Thu Feb 10 08:32:41 EST 2022
re: electric motor replacement
we used a 36 volt 101# thrust
motor for several years in Sandusky bay and out on lake Erie.
many advantages for us
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Today's Topics:
1. Electric Motor (Matt Wilson)
2. Re: Whisker Pole (Chris Geankoplis)
3. Re: Whisker Pole (Jesse Shumaker)
4. Re: Electric Motor (Todd Robinson)
5. Re: Whisker Pole (Lee Kuhn)
6. Re: Whisker Pole (Shawn Boles)
7. Re: Electric Motor (Steve Bauman)
8. Re: Electric Motor (Matt Wilson)
9. Re: Whisker Pole (Chris Geankoplis)
10. Re: Wind instrument? (Peter Nyberg)
11. Re: Electric Motor (Tom Van Heule)
12. Re: Wind instrument? (Mike Riter)
13. Re: Electric Motor (Cary Tolbert)
14. Re: Electric Motor (Michael D. Weisner)
15. Re: Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4412, Issue 1 (Posting Reply to
thread) (Joedempsey at hughes.net)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 07:58:30 -0600
From: Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motor
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Hello everyone,
I recently had my gas powered motor stolen off my boat in storage and am
looking for a replacement. I sail on a fairly large lake in MN. I am
wondering if any of you have used a normal electric motor (trolling motor)
in sheltered water and if so, what pounds of thrust? I am mainly using it
for maneuvering to and from my mooring and dock. I suppose I would
occasionally need to get across the lake if the wind died.
Many thanks,
Matt Wilson
Hornblower II
White Bear Lake, MN
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 09:36:11 -0500
From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
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Here is another use for the boat hook. The port spreader fails in a bit of
weather. I used the pole to retention the outer shroud during some
thunderstorms near Elba. See picture attached. Oh, Alice was pretty cool
considering the situation.
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 6:23 AM Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Yes, but how does it attach to the shroud?
>
> Reuben Mezrich
> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 2:44 AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The male end of the pole rests in the female hole of the clew. The
> tension
> > from the sheet prevents it from falling out.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 11:18 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Great idea Lee?how do you attach it to the shroud?
> > >
> > > Michael McKay
> > > (630) 209-2054 (m)
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Feb 7, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ?Nothing as elaborate or functional as Jeff's and other whisker
> poles,
> > > but
> > > > the attached photo shows what I used.
> > > >
> > > > It's a 6' long telescoping boat hook. 6' seemed like a good length
> but
> > > it
> > > > was too long. Go with a 4' that extends to 8'. From the cabin it
> was
> > > easy
> > > > to attach it to a shroud instead of the mast. Probably not a good
> idea
> > > > because you could break the shroud, but I never had any problems and
> > used
> > > > it for a lot of years.
> > > >
> > > > Lee
> > > > 1999 Rhodes22 AT EASE
> > > > Claytor Lake, VA
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 08:57:30 -0600
From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
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What a photo with rough seas and the squall in the background! I'm looking
forward to reading through your latest installment of the Greek adventure.
Jesse Shumaker
S/V Zephyr
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 8:36 AM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Here is another use for the boat hook. The port spreader fails in a bit of
> weather. I used the pole to retention the outer shroud during some
> thunderstorms near Elba. See picture attached. Oh, Alice was pretty cool
> considering the situation.
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 6:23 AM Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, but how does it attach to the shroud?
> >
> > Reuben Mezrich
> > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 2:44 AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The male end of the pole rests in the female hole of the clew. The
> > tension
> > > from the sheet prevents it from falling out.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 11:18 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Great idea Lee?how do you attach it to the shroud?
> > > >
> > > > Michael McKay
> > > > (630) 209-2054 (m)
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On Feb 7, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ?Nothing as elaborate or functional as Jeff's and other whisker
> > poles,
> > > > but
> > > > > the attached photo shows what I used.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's a 6' long telescoping boat hook. 6' seemed like a good length
> > but
> > > > it
> > > > > was too long. Go with a 4' that extends to 8'. From the cabin it
> > was
> > > > easy
> > > > > to attach it to a shroud instead of the mast. Probably not a good
> > idea
> > > > > because you could break the shroud, but I never had any problems
> and
> > > used
> > > > > it for a lot of years.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lee
> > > > > 1999 Rhodes22 AT EASE
> > > > > Claytor Lake, VA
> > > > > -------------- next part --------------
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> > > >
> > >
> >
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 15:30:15 +0000
From: Todd Robinson <ctrobins at outlook.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motor
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I sail on Kerr Lake in NC. When my outboard failed and was going to be in the shop for several months I purchased a Newport L trolling motor that provided 62lbs of thrust. I loved how easy and quiet it was but it could not handle much wind. Just getting out of the marina was challenging when the wind was above 7 knots. It took a while for it to get traction to overcome the wind and I started worrying that I was not going to make it back to my slip much less the lake. However, after going backwards a few slips it dug in and I was able to get out and have a great day on the lake. After that, I just went out when it wasn't so windy which probably suits my skill level better. When it came time to get the boat out of the water, it did not have any trouble getting the boat onto the trailer.
Outboard is repaired and will be the primary this year but I'll keep the Newport onboard as a backup. Paddling back when the wind dies is not fun. If I had the funds, I would love to switch to an electric outboard.
Disclaimer, I am new to boating so I'm sure a lot of my challenges are due to lack of knowledge/experience.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Matt Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 8:59 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motor
Hello everyone,
I recently had my gas powered motor stolen off my boat in storage and am looking for a replacement. I sail on a fairly large lake in MN. I am wondering if any of you have used a normal electric motor (trolling motor) in sheltered water and if so, what pounds of thrust? I am mainly using it for maneuvering to and from my mooring and dock. I suppose I would occasionally need to get across the lake if the wind died.
Many thanks,
Matt Wilson
Hornblower II
White Bear Lake, MN
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 10:37:42 -0500
From: Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
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I saved that photo! Button down the hatches Matey.
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, 9:36 AM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Here is another use for the boat hook. The port spreader fails in a bit of
> weather. I used the pole to retention the outer shroud during some
> thunderstorms near Elba. See picture attached. Oh, Alice was pretty cool
> considering the situation.
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 6:23 AM Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, but how does it attach to the shroud?
> >
> > Reuben Mezrich
> > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 2:44 AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The male end of the pole rests in the female hole of the clew. The
> > tension
> > > from the sheet prevents it from falling out.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 11:18 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Great idea Lee?how do you attach it to the shroud?
> > > >
> > > > Michael McKay
> > > > (630) 209-2054 (m)
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On Feb 7, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ?Nothing as elaborate or functional as Jeff's and other whisker
> > poles,
> > > > but
> > > > > the attached photo shows what I used.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's a 6' long telescoping boat hook. 6' seemed like a good length
> > but
> > > > it
> > > > > was too long. Go with a 4' that extends to 8'. From the cabin it
> > was
> > > > easy
> > > > > to attach it to a shroud instead of the mast. Probably not a good
> > idea
> > > > > because you could break the shroud, but I never had any problems
> and
> > > used
> > > > > it for a lot of years.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lee
> > > > > 1999 Rhodes22 AT EASE
> > > > > Claytor Lake, VA
> > > > > -------------- next part --------------
> > > > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
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> > > >
> > >
> >
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 07:57:43 -0800
From: Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
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Chris - Ingenious! You and Alice are amazing.
Shawn
s/v Sweet Baboo
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, 6:36 AM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Here is another use for the boat hook. The port spreader fails in a bit of
> weather. I used the pole to retention the outer shroud during some
> thunderstorms near Elba. See picture attached. Oh, Alice was pretty cool
> considering the situation.
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 6:23 AM Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, but how does it attach to the shroud?
> >
> > Reuben Mezrich
> > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 2:44 AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The male end of the pole rests in the female hole of the clew. The
> > tension
> > > from the sheet prevents it from falling out.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 11:18 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Great idea Lee?how do you attach it to the shroud?
> > > >
> > > > Michael McKay
> > > > (630) 209-2054 (m)
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On Feb 7, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ?Nothing as elaborate or functional as Jeff's and other whisker
> > poles,
> > > > but
> > > > > the attached photo shows what I used.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's a 6' long telescoping boat hook. 6' seemed like a good length
> > but
> > > > it
> > > > > was too long. Go with a 4' that extends to 8'. From the cabin it
> > was
> > > > easy
> > > > > to attach it to a shroud instead of the mast. Probably not a good
> > idea
> > > > > because you could break the shroud, but I never had any problems
> and
> > > used
> > > > > it for a lot of years.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lee
> > > > > 1999 Rhodes22 AT EASE
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 11:16:42 -0500
From: Steve Bauman <sbauman369 at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motor
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About 2.5 years ago, I too used a trolling motor for a couple of weeks
while my gas outboard engine was being serviced. It was maybe a 50 pound
thrust one, the largest I could buy at Walmart at that time. I found it to
be totally inadequate, even just to get me out of our marina in mild wind.
One time, I literally sailed, making shallow tacking turns, in addition to
having the motor running full blast, to get out. That being said, I love
the idea of changing over to a proper electric outboard, something I may do
for this coming season.
Steve
Misty Anne
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 10:30 AM Todd Robinson <ctrobins at outlook.com> wrote:
> I sail on Kerr Lake in NC. When my outboard failed and was going to be in
> the shop for several months I purchased a Newport L trolling motor that
> provided 62lbs of thrust. I loved how easy and quiet it was but it could
> not handle much wind. Just getting out of the marina was challenging when
> the wind was above 7 knots. It took a while for it to get traction to
> overcome the wind and I started worrying that I was not going to make it
> back to my slip much less the lake. However, after going backwards a few
> slips it dug in and I was able to get out and have a great day on the lake.
> After that, I just went out when it wasn't so windy which probably suits my
> skill level better. When it came time to get the boat out of the water, it
> did not have any trouble getting the boat onto the trailer.
>
> Outboard is repaired and will be the primary this year but I'll keep the
> Newport onboard as a backup. Paddling back when the wind dies is not fun.
> If I had the funds, I would love to switch to an electric outboard.
>
> Disclaimer, I am new to boating so I'm sure a lot of my challenges are due
> to lack of knowledge/experience.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Matt Wilson
> Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 8:59 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motor
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I recently had my gas powered motor stolen off my boat in storage and am
> looking for a replacement. I sail on a fairly large lake in MN. I am
> wondering if any of you have used a normal electric motor (trolling motor)
> in sheltered water and if so, what pounds of thrust? I am mainly using it
> for maneuvering to and from my mooring and dock. I suppose I would
> occasionally need to get across the lake if the wind died.
>
> Many thanks,
> Matt Wilson
> Hornblower II
> White Bear Lake, MN
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 10:46:02 -0600
From: Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motor
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Thanks guys,
Does anyone on this list has a minimum electric outboard thrust
recommendation or specific electric outboard recommendation? Budget matters
but since I will be making a claim on a nice motor that is now missing, I
have some money to play with.
Thank you!
Matt
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 10:17 AM Steve Bauman <sbauman369 at gmail.com> wrote:
> About 2.5 years ago, I too used a trolling motor for a couple of weeks
> while my gas outboard engine was being serviced. It was maybe a 50 pound
> thrust one, the largest I could buy at Walmart at that time. I found it to
> be totally inadequate, even just to get me out of our marina in mild wind.
> One time, I literally sailed, making shallow tacking turns, in addition to
> having the motor running full blast, to get out. That being said, I love
> the idea of changing over to a proper electric outboard, something I may do
> for this coming season.
>
> Steve
> Misty Anne
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 10:30 AM Todd Robinson <ctrobins at outlook.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I sail on Kerr Lake in NC. When my outboard failed and was going to be in
> > the shop for several months I purchased a Newport L trolling motor that
> > provided 62lbs of thrust. I loved how easy and quiet it was but it could
> > not handle much wind. Just getting out of the marina was challenging when
> > the wind was above 7 knots. It took a while for it to get traction to
> > overcome the wind and I started worrying that I was not going to make it
> > back to my slip much less the lake. However, after going backwards a few
> > slips it dug in and I was able to get out and have a great day on the
> lake.
> > After that, I just went out when it wasn't so windy which probably suits
> my
> > skill level better. When it came time to get the boat out of the water,
> it
> > did not have any trouble getting the boat onto the trailer.
> >
> > Outboard is repaired and will be the primary this year but I'll keep the
> > Newport onboard as a backup. Paddling back when the wind dies is not fun.
> > If I had the funds, I would love to switch to an electric outboard.
> >
> > Disclaimer, I am new to boating so I'm sure a lot of my challenges are
> due
> > to lack of knowledge/experience.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> > Matt Wilson
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 8:59 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motor
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I recently had my gas powered motor stolen off my boat in storage and am
> > looking for a replacement. I sail on a fairly large lake in MN. I am
> > wondering if any of you have used a normal electric motor (trolling
> motor)
> > in sheltered water and if so, what pounds of thrust? I am mainly using
> it
> > for maneuvering to and from my mooring and dock. I suppose I would
> > occasionally need to get across the lake if the wind died.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Matt Wilson
> > Hornblower II
> > White Bear Lake, MN
> >
>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 12:11:33 -0500
From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
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MyGaiver is whatRhodies do
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 9:57 AM Jesse Shumaker <
jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> What a photo with rough seas and the squall in the background! I'm looking
> forward to reading through your latest installment of the Greek adventure.
>
> Jesse Shumaker
> S/V Zephyr
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 8:36 AM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Here is another use for the boat hook. The port spreader fails in a bit
> of
> > weather. I used the pole to retention the outer shroud during some
> > thunderstorms near Elba. See picture attached. Oh, Alice was pretty cool
> > considering the situation.
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 6:23 AM Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, but how does it attach to the shroud?
> > >
> > > Reuben Mezrich
> > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 2:44 AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The male end of the pole rests in the female hole of the clew. The
> > > tension
> > > > from the sheet prevents it from falling out.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 11:18 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Great idea Lee?how do you attach it to the shroud?
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael McKay
> > > > > (630) 209-2054 (m)
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Feb 7, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ?Nothing as elaborate or functional as Jeff's and other whisker
> > > poles,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > the attached photo shows what I used.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's a 6' long telescoping boat hook. 6' seemed like a good
> length
> > > but
> > > > > it
> > > > > > was too long. Go with a 4' that extends to 8'. From the cabin
> it
> > > was
> > > > > easy
> > > > > > to attach it to a shroud instead of the mast. Probably not a
> good
> > > idea
> > > > > > because you could break the shroud, but I never had any problems
> > and
> > > > used
> > > > > > it for a lot of years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lee
> > > > > > 1999 Rhodes22 AT EASE
> > > > > > Claytor Lake, VA
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> > > >
> > >
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 09:43:24 -0800
From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Wind instrument?
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Mike,
As I said, it's been several years, and unfortunately I don't really recall the details of my troubles with the SailTimer. I recall having an issue with the built-in battery, and I was unable to get it set up to give me a useful wind direction (i.e. a bearing relative to my current course).
At that time, there was only one model, and I haven't kept up with their development since. Perhaps they've improved things, but a masthead windex and hand-held anemometer give the info I'm looking for with less complexity.
Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
> On 2022-02-07, at 22:31:26 EST, Michael McKay wrote:
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> I just reread your reply. As it happens I have been seriously thinking about
> getting the SailTimer RB wind instrument. It seems that it would be a perfect
> choice for a Rhodes 22. Do you know which model you got, and could you
> elaborate about the issues that you experienced?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 12:04:32 -0600
From: Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motor
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Well an 8 hp is like 180lbs thrust IIRC.
Most of these boats have an 8, some have a 6. I wouldn't think a 4hp would
do much ...
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, 10:46 AM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks guys,
>
> Does anyone on this list has a minimum electric outboard thrust
> recommendation or specific electric outboard recommendation? Budget matters
> but since I will be making a claim on a nice motor that is now missing, I
> have some money to play with.
>
> Thank you!
> Matt
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 10:17 AM Steve Bauman <sbauman369 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > About 2.5 years ago, I too used a trolling motor for a couple of weeks
> > while my gas outboard engine was being serviced. It was maybe a 50 pound
> > thrust one, the largest I could buy at Walmart at that time. I found it
> to
> > be totally inadequate, even just to get me out of our marina in mild
> wind.
> > One time, I literally sailed, making shallow tacking turns, in addition
> to
> > having the motor running full blast, to get out. That being said, I love
> > the idea of changing over to a proper electric outboard, something I may
> do
> > for this coming season.
> >
> > Steve
> > Misty Anne
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 10:30 AM Todd Robinson <ctrobins at outlook.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I sail on Kerr Lake in NC. When my outboard failed and was going to be
> in
> > > the shop for several months I purchased a Newport L trolling motor that
> > > provided 62lbs of thrust. I loved how easy and quiet it was but it
> could
> > > not handle much wind. Just getting out of the marina was challenging
> when
> > > the wind was above 7 knots. It took a while for it to get traction to
> > > overcome the wind and I started worrying that I was not going to make
> it
> > > back to my slip much less the lake. However, after going backwards a
> few
> > > slips it dug in and I was able to get out and have a great day on the
> > lake.
> > > After that, I just went out when it wasn't so windy which probably
> suits
> > my
> > > skill level better. When it came time to get the boat out of the water,
> > it
> > > did not have any trouble getting the boat onto the trailer.
> > >
> > > Outboard is repaired and will be the primary this year but I'll keep
> the
> > > Newport onboard as a backup. Paddling back when the wind dies is not
> fun.
> > > If I had the funds, I would love to switch to an electric outboard.
> > >
> > > Disclaimer, I am new to boating so I'm sure a lot of my challenges are
> > due
> > > to lack of knowledge/experience.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> > > Matt Wilson
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 8:59 AM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motor
> > >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > I recently had my gas powered motor stolen off my boat in storage and
> am
> > > looking for a replacement. I sail on a fairly large lake in MN. I am
> > > wondering if any of you have used a normal electric motor (trolling
> > motor)
> > > in sheltered water and if so, what pounds of thrust? I am mainly using
> > it
> > > for maneuvering to and from my mooring and dock. I suppose I would
> > > occasionally need to get across the lake if the wind died.
> > >
> > > Many thanks,
> > > Matt Wilson
> > > Hornblower II
> > > White Bear Lake, MN
> > >
> >
>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 12:10:52 -0600
From: Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Wind instrument?
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I don't mean to hijack Michael McKay's post, but since we're on the topic
of wind instruments. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with
Ultrasonic wind instruments. Being strictly a trailer sailer, I'm looking
for something that would stay on the mast when it's up or down. The wind
vane or spinning cup types don't seem to do well when the mast is stored in
the horizontal position and highway speed winds blow at them. Having to
take the wind instrument off and put it back on everytime I set up would
add more time to the mast raising and lower task.
Michael Riter
SV Emma B
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 11:43 AM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> As I said, it's been several years, and unfortunately I don't really
> recall the details of my troubles with the SailTimer. I recall having an
> issue with the built-in battery, and I was unable to get it set up to give
> me a useful wind direction (i.e. a bearing relative to my current course).
>
> At that time, there was only one model, and I haven't kept up with their
> development since. Perhaps they've improved things, but a masthead windex
> and hand-held anemometer give the info I'm looking for with less complexity.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
> > On 2022-02-07, at 22:31:26 EST, Michael McKay wrote:
> >
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > I just reread your reply. As it happens I have been seriously thinking
> about
> > getting the SailTimer RB wind instrument. It seems that it would be a
> perfect
> > choice for a Rhodes 22. Do you know which model you got, and could you
> > elaborate about the issues that you experienced?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 13:28:32 -0500
From: Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motor
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In my reading of sailboats references I came across this bit of info. A
sailboat needs a minimum of ONE horsepower for every 550 pounds of ballast.
It seems that a Rhodes 22 should require a minimum of 6 HP. My Rhodes came
with an 8 HP. The previous owner said they had to deal with river currents
and tides not to mention wind issues.
Cary Tolbert
S/V Whisper '86
Claytor Lake, VA
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 1:04 PM Tom Van Heule <
tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
> Well an 8 hp is like 180lbs thrust IIRC.
>
> Most of these boats have an 8, some have a 6. I wouldn't think a 4hp would
> do much ...
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, 10:46 AM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks guys,
> >
> > Does anyone on this list has a minimum electric outboard thrust
> > recommendation or specific electric outboard recommendation? Budget
> matters
> > but since I will be making a claim on a nice motor that is now missing, I
> > have some money to play with.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > Matt
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 10:17 AM Steve Bauman <sbauman369 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > About 2.5 years ago, I too used a trolling motor for a couple of weeks
> > > while my gas outboard engine was being serviced. It was maybe a 50
> pound
> > > thrust one, the largest I could buy at Walmart at that time. I found
> it
> > to
> > > be totally inadequate, even just to get me out of our marina in mild
> > wind.
> > > One time, I literally sailed, making shallow tacking turns, in addition
> > to
> > > having the motor running full blast, to get out. That being said, I
> love
> > > the idea of changing over to a proper electric outboard, something I
> may
> > do
> > > for this coming season.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > > Misty Anne
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 10:30 AM Todd Robinson <ctrobins at outlook.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I sail on Kerr Lake in NC. When my outboard failed and was going to
> be
> > in
> > > > the shop for several months I purchased a Newport L trolling motor
> that
> > > > provided 62lbs of thrust. I loved how easy and quiet it was but it
> > could
> > > > not handle much wind. Just getting out of the marina was challenging
> > when
> > > > the wind was above 7 knots. It took a while for it to get traction to
> > > > overcome the wind and I started worrying that I was not going to make
> > it
> > > > back to my slip much less the lake. However, after going backwards a
> > few
> > > > slips it dug in and I was able to get out and have a great day on the
> > > lake.
> > > > After that, I just went out when it wasn't so windy which probably
> > suits
> > > my
> > > > skill level better. When it came time to get the boat out of the
> water,
> > > it
> > > > did not have any trouble getting the boat onto the trailer.
> > > >
> > > > Outboard is repaired and will be the primary this year but I'll keep
> > the
> > > > Newport onboard as a backup. Paddling back when the wind dies is not
> > fun.
> > > > If I had the funds, I would love to switch to an electric outboard.
> > > >
> > > > Disclaimer, I am new to boating so I'm sure a lot of my challenges
> are
> > > due
> > > > to lack of knowledge/experience.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf
> Of
> > > > Matt Wilson
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 8:59 AM
> > > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motor
> > > >
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I recently had my gas powered motor stolen off my boat in storage and
> > am
> > > > looking for a replacement. I sail on a fairly large lake in MN. I am
> > > > wondering if any of you have used a normal electric motor (trolling
> > > motor)
> > > > in sheltered water and if so, what pounds of thrust? I am mainly
> using
> > > it
> > > > for maneuvering to and from my mooring and dock. I suppose I would
> > > > occasionally need to get across the lake if the wind died.
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks,
> > > > Matt Wilson
> > > > Hornblower II
> > > > White Bear Lake, MN
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 15:29:34 -0500
From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motor
Message-ID: <002801d81d2a$969ec890$c3dc59b0$@ebsmed.com>
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Several discussions have been logged on the list concerning electric propulsion.
A discussion about the Torqueedo sizes and capabilities starts at:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2F2020-June%2F084960.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6ef3b1d19c154dab068408d9ec1ccb45%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637800430728606629%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=YU7ZoO2VieOIoR3EYVpIG4mxzaBpEH%2BtoBs0JHn%2B%2B7I%3D&reserved=0
You may follow the thread by clicking on the "Next message" links.
The above thread was prompted by a discussion the previous month entitled "Torqueedo article" at:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2F2020-May%2F084857.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6ef3b1d19c154dab068408d9ec1ccb45%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637800430728606629%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=c%2BYdQ7nafwctGlPBNv4z%2F5PVUY3X6LciTOXkwDtNJvo%3D&reserved=0
The original link to the article is bad, but, the German version is still available at:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwasserwanderer.de%2F2020%2F05%2F23%2Fwie-weit-kommt-man-mit-dem-torqeedo-travel-wirklich%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6ef3b1d19c154dab068408d9ec1ccb45%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637800430728606629%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=2c2T%2BSwR3MO%2FXwv0ImOogfc0JmDK6QTiSdrrLHpoGNQ%3D&reserved=0
You can translate the text in 5000 character chunks using google translate to get the gist.
Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY
I?d rather be sailing :~)
-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Matt Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 11:46 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motor
Thanks guys,
Does anyone on this list has a minimum electric outboard thrust recommendation or specific electric outboard recommendation? Budget matters but since I will be making a claim on a nice motor that is now missing, I have some money to play with.
Thank you!
Matt
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 10:17 AM Steve Bauman <sbauman369 at gmail.com> wrote:
> About 2.5 years ago, I too used a trolling motor for a couple of weeks
> while my gas outboard engine was being serviced. It was maybe a 50
> pound thrust one, the largest I could buy at Walmart at that time. I
> found it to be totally inadequate, even just to get me out of our marina in mild wind.
> One time, I literally sailed, making shallow tacking turns, in
> addition to having the motor running full blast, to get out. That
> being said, I love the idea of changing over to a proper electric
> outboard, something I may do for this coming season.
>
> Steve
> Misty Anne
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 10:30 AM Todd Robinson <ctrobins at outlook.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I sail on Kerr Lake in NC. When my outboard failed and was going to
> > be in the shop for several months I purchased a Newport L trolling
> > motor that provided 62lbs of thrust. I loved how easy and quiet it
> > was but it could not handle much wind. Just getting out of the
> > marina was challenging when the wind was above 7 knots. It took a
> > while for it to get traction to overcome the wind and I started
> > worrying that I was not going to make it back to my slip much less
> > the lake. However, after going backwards a few slips it dug in and I
> > was able to get out and have a great day on the
> lake.
> > After that, I just went out when it wasn't so windy which probably
> > suits
> my
> > skill level better. When it came time to get the boat out of the
> > water,
> it
> > did not have any trouble getting the boat onto the trailer.
> >
> > Outboard is repaired and will be the primary this year but I'll keep
> > the Newport onboard as a backup. Paddling back when the wind dies is not fun.
> > If I had the funds, I would love to switch to an electric outboard.
> >
> > Disclaimer, I am new to boating so I'm sure a lot of my challenges
> > are
> due
> > to lack of knowledge/experience.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf
> > Of Matt Wilson
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 8:59 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motor
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I recently had my gas powered motor stolen off my boat in storage
> > and am looking for a replacement. I sail on a fairly large lake in
> > MN. I am wondering if any of you have used a normal electric motor
> > (trolling
> motor)
> > in sheltered water and if so, what pounds of thrust? I am mainly
> > using
> it
> > for maneuvering to and from my mooring and dock. I suppose I would
> > occasionally need to get across the lake if the wind died.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Matt Wilson
> > Hornblower II
> > White Bear Lake, MN
> >
>
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 17:37:11 -0500
From: <Joedempsey at hughes.net>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4412, Issue 1
(Posting Reply to thread)
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OK, this is from my email client via Outlook using the Reply tab. As you can
see, the entire Rhodes22 Digest copies in. I'm really confused. Sorry!
-----Original Message-----
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for sale (stan)
2. Re: Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for sale (Bob Garrant)
3. Re: Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for sale (RODNEY BROWN)
4. Re: Hello from Oklahoma, new Rhodes owner (Mark West)
5. Re: Hello from Oklahoma, new Rhodes owner (Jesse Shumaker)
6. Re: Hello from Oklahoma, new Rhodes owner (Brian Ferguson)
7. 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole (Jeff Smith Photo)
8. Re: 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole (Graham Parker)
9. Re: Bilge Pump Questions (chuy carreon)
10. Re: Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for sale (stan)
11. Re: Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for sale (Rodney Brown)
12. Re: 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole (Michael McKay)
13. 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole (Jeff Smith Photo)
14. Re: 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole (ROGER PIHLAJA)
15. Re: 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole (Graham Parker)
16. Re: 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole (ROGER PIHLAJA)
17. Re: 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole (Graham Parker)
18. Whisker Pole (Jeff Smith Photo)
19. Re: Whisker Pole (Graham Parker)
20. Remote Control & Receiver available (Bob Garrant)
21. Re: Tiller Pilot Recommendations (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
22. Re: Tiller Pilot Recommendations (Peter Nyberg)
23. Help a rookie out: How to post a reply to a thread (RODNEY BROWN)
24. Re: Help a rookie out: How to post a reply to a thread
(Peter Nyberg)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 19:53:36 -0500
From: stan <stan at generalboats.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for
sale
Message-ID: <8de80cc0-d089-5ada-1b2a-bf5b89401814 at generalboats.com>
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Rodney,
This is Stan, builder of your boat.? Charles has been kind enough to
handle the parts part of the business and will hopefully continue to do
so.? I have been off line with some computer problems and this is my
first try since its repair; hope it's working.
While owning a Rhodes is like wearing a badge of how bright its owner
is, and while looking to the Rhodes List will get you the best answers
your questioning can find anywhere on land or sea, questions like yours
are best directed to me.? The reason, a terrible dumb notion that if we
come up with a better way, we do it in the next boat. This can have
owners familiar with what is on their year boat and anxious to help you,
not necessarily tuned into how your year boat is built.
Send an email to me at <stan at generalboats.com>and I will go over the
technicalities re this upgrading.
stan
On 1/25/22 6:13 PM, R Brown wrote:
> Charlie, I?m new to the Rhodes group, just purchased a 2001, and was
wondering if your tiller/motor connector is still available?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rodney.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 20:21:20 -0500
From: Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for
sale
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Stan,
I would like to get the tiller/motor connector for my Rhodes 2000 that I
purchased from General Boats in 2017.
I previously purchased General Boats parts through Charles and the
transaction went very smoothly.
Regards,
Bob Garrant
Kent Island, MD
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 7:53 PM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> Rodney,
>
> This is Stan, builder of your boat. Charles has been kind enough to
> handle the parts part of the business and will hopefully continue to do
> so. I have been off line with some computer problems and this is my
> first try since its repair; hope it's working.
>
> While owning a Rhodes is like wearing a badge of how bright its owner
> is, and while looking to the Rhodes List will get you the best answers
> your questioning can find anywhere on land or sea, questions like yours
> are best directed to me. The reason, a terrible dumb notion that if we
> come up with a better way, we do it in the next boat. This can have
> owners familiar with what is on their year boat and anxious to help you,
> not necessarily tuned into how your year boat is built.
>
> Send an email to me at <stan at generalboats.com>and I will go over the
> technicalities re this upgrading.
>
> stan
>
>
> On 1/25/22 6:13 PM, R Brown wrote:
> > Charlie, I?m new to the Rhodes group, just purchased a 2001, and was
> wondering if your tiller/motor connector is still available?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rodney.
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 19:53:11 -0600
From: RODNEY BROWN <rnelson204 at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for
sale
Message-ID: <851D5CB3-3CC7-4EA5-9FC5-732F005171DD at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Thanks for the info Stan, do you have Charlie?s contact to follow up on the
availability of traveller and motor-tiller unit? Thanks again for your
help, and for taking time to get back to me. Seems your computer bugs
seemed to be ironed out.
Sincerely,
Rodney Brown
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 6:53 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>
> Rodney,
>
> This is Stan, builder of your boat. Charles has been kind enough to
handle the parts part of the business and will hopefully continue to do so.
I have been off line with some computer problems and this is my first try
since its repair; hope it's working.
>
> While owning a Rhodes is like wearing a badge of how bright its owner is,
and while looking to the Rhodes List will get you the best answers your
questioning can find anywhere on land or sea, questions like yours are best
directed to me. The reason, a terrible dumb notion that if we come up with
a better way, we do it in the next boat. This can have owners familiar with
what is on their year boat and anxious to help you, not necessarily tuned
into how your year boat is built.
>
> Send an email to me at <stan at generalboats.com>and I will go over the
technicalities re this upgrading.
>
> stan
>
>
> On 1/25/22 6:13 PM, R Brown wrote:
>> Charlie, I?m new to the Rhodes group, just purchased a 2001, and was
wondering if your tiller/motor connector is still available?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rodney.
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 14:38:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: Mark West <keywestseccorp at verizon.net>
To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello from Oklahoma, new Rhodes owner
Message-ID: <501660946.1340413.1643207922407 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Rodney Welcome to the Rhodes Family lots of knowledge ,Experience here to
help?
Mark and Connie Wesr? ?Hertford NC.?
S/V Fairwinds II? ? 89 Rhodes 22
-----Original Message-----
From: R Brown <rnelson204 at gmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Sent: Tue, Jan 25, 2022 6:09 pm
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Hello from Oklahoma, new Rhodes owner
Hello from OKC :)? I purchased a 2001 Rhodes? a couple of weeks ago and had
a questioner the group, is the Rhodes Owner Coop still available to join??
Thanks,
Rodney
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 08:46:02 -0600
From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello from Oklahoma, new Rhodes owner
Message-ID:
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Welcome Rodney! There's a few other R22s in the midwest including one in
Kansas and a couple where I sail at Lake Manawa in Iowa.
Where do you sail in OKC?
Jesse Shumaker
S/V Zephyr
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 5:10 PM R Brown <rnelson204 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello from OKC :) I purchased a 2001 Rhodes a couple of weeks ago and
> had a questioner the group, is the Rhodes Owner Coop still available to
> join?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rodney
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 10:49:38 -0500
From: Brian Ferguson <brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello from Oklahoma, new Rhodes owner
Message-ID:
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Rodney,
Welcome to the best owners club out there. I used to live in Lawton. I
figure you sail Lake Hefner. You might try sailing Lake Ellsworth for a
slightly different experience. The mountain down there plays with the wind
direction a little making for a fun challenge..
On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 9:46 AM Jesse Shumaker <
jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> Welcome Rodney! There's a few other R22s in the midwest including one in
> Kansas and a couple where I sail at Lake Manawa in Iowa.
>
> Where do you sail in OKC?
>
> Jesse Shumaker
> S/V Zephyr
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 5:10 PM R Brown <rnelson204 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello from OKC :) I purchased a 2001 Rhodes a couple of weeks ago and
> > had a questioner the group, is the Rhodes Owner Coop still available to
> > join?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rodney
>
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 10:54:15 -0500
From: Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
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Last Spring I built a combination Boat Pole/ Whisker Pole Combo that is
stored upright in front of the mast. I fiberglassed a carabiner in one end
and a boat pole tip into the other. When used as a whisker pole the boat
pole tip is inserted into the clew of the 135% genoa and the carabiner end
clips on to a bale on the mast.
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jeffsmithphoto.net%2FBoats%2FWhisker-Boat-Pole%2Fn-WnpmmF%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6ef3b1d19c154dab068408d9ec1ccb45%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637800430728606629%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=c7cFSXCdI0K3wYhQZsxCbtl8s1XYWP15w6lTdUAyA2Y%3D&reserved=0>.
To store, the carabiner end slides up on the mast secured by a large bale
that was a part of the mast raising system and the boat pole end rests in
the lower mast bale. There are two pieces of swim tubes attached to prevent
rattling. The outer yellow pole was wrapped in blue 3M electrical tape to
match the color scheme of Radiant.
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.truevalue.com%2F6-to-12-ft-fiberglass-extension-pole&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6ef3b1d19c154dab068408d9ec1ccb45%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637800430728606629%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=l%2BcIjc5Igl34LuMkEUS01nBvtFPxxDZk2FQtNaE6sD8%3D&reserved=0
Best regards,
Jeff Smith
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 11:08:43 -0500
From: Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
Message-ID: <0C7ED6DD-1B20-4A92-9786-F9A1958DDED7 at tds.net>
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Very impressive Jeff, but nice and simple too. Can you explain or send a
photo of the bale set up?
Also, I am planning on setting up a simple jibe preventer for my downwind
journeys. Details of other systems gratefully received.
Graham
'sv 00Sailin?
> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:54, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Last Spring I built a combination Boat Pole/ Whisker Pole Combo that is
> stored upright in front of the mast. I fiberglassed a carabiner in one
end
> and a boat pole tip into the other. When used as a whisker pole the boat
> pole tip is inserted into the clew of the 135% genoa and the carabiner end
> clips on to a bale on the mast.
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jeffsmithphoto.net%2FBoats%2FWhisker-Boat-Pole%2Fn-WnpmmF%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6ef3b1d19c154dab068408d9ec1ccb45%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637800430728606629%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=c7cFSXCdI0K3wYhQZsxCbtl8s1XYWP15w6lTdUAyA2Y%3D&reserved=0>.
> To store, the carabiner end slides up on the mast secured by a large bale
> that was a part of the mast raising system and the boat pole end rests in
> the lower mast bale. There are two pieces of swim tubes attached to
prevent
> rattling. The outer yellow pole was wrapped in blue 3M electrical tape to
> match the color scheme of Radiant.
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.truevalue.com%2F6-to-12-ft-fiberglass-extension-pole&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6ef3b1d19c154dab068408d9ec1ccb45%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637800430728606629%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=l%2BcIjc5Igl34LuMkEUS01nBvtFPxxDZk2FQtNaE6sD8%3D&reserved=0
>
> Best regards,
> Jeff Smith
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 11:28:31 -0500 (EST)
From: chuy carreon <chcarreon at cox.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, Peter
Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bilge Pump Questions
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Thanks Peter,
Like all the videos on your fixing projects on Silverheels. I will have to
locate the on the flooring.
Take care,
Chuy Carreon
Tempe, Arizona
> On January 24, 2022 at 10:56 AM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com
mailto:peter at sunnybeeches.com > wrote:
>
>
> I agree with the sentiment with which Roger ended his post. I can
think of very few scenarios where a bilge pump will avert a disaster. His
example of preventing a boat from sinking at the dock is one, but only in
the situation where the boat is connected to shore power, which is
configured to keep the battery charged, and where the charging rate is as
least as great as the bulge pump power draw.
>
> One of the first projects I did on Silverheels (video #7:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FVywOqYXqzYg&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6ef3b1d19c154dab068408d9ec1ccb45%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637800430728606629%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=IO6QDypH6n7WVQeseCiFQJJsOytL1q3Dn8Ff0O4v5fg%3D&reserved=0) was to replace the plywood and carpet floor
installed by General Boat with oak flooring. This was high on my to-do list
because the carpet made the bilge difficult to access. Now, the bilge is
easy to check, and when I find water (my hull-deck joint leaks), it's a
quick job to take care of it with a bucket, a cup, and a sponge.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
> > > On 2022-01-24, at 08:08:25 EST, ROGER PIHLAJA wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > ...
> > If you hit something and make a hole below the waterline, the
inflow of
> > water will quickly overwhelm the bilge pump. It?s really just an
insurance
> > policy against your boat sinking at the dock when you are not
there.
> >
> > >
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 20:37:16 -0500
From: stan <stan at generalboats.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for
sale
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Rodney and Crew,
Before I forget here is Charles direct contact info:
??? Charles Gabriel <charles.gabriel at gmail.com>
The info on your two initial items of interest is a mixed bag. The new
traveler invention is one of those middle of the night inspirations that
it turned out we can build all of, in-house. When we discovered that
Yamaha had finally discovered sailboats and built a motor perfect for
our needs (standard 20 inch long shaft, high thrust meaning low RPM
motor sporting a larger 4 bladed sailboat pitch prop) along with both
its speed and direction controls in a single fitting that mounts on the
sailboat's tiller, we were in heaven.? We knew that coming up with a
linkage system from the Rhodes rudder head to that motor is what we do
in our sleep and we are going to have an outboard auxiliary set up like
no other. And we did; and owners loved it.?? But
?? ??? ???? to be continued? . . . .
ss
On 1/25/22 8:53 PM, RODNEY BROWN wrote:
> Thanks for the info Stan, do you have Charlie?s contact to follow up on
the availability of traveller and motor-tiller unit? Thanks again for your
help, and for taking time to get back to me. Seems your computer bugs
seemed to be ironed out.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Rodney Brown
>
>
>
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 6:53 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>>
>> Rodney,
>>
>> This is Stan, builder of your boat. Charles has been kind enough to
handle the parts part of the business and will hopefully continue to do so.
I have been off line with some computer problems and this is my first try
since its repair; hope it's working.
>>
>> While owning a Rhodes is like wearing a badge of how bright its owner is,
and while looking to the Rhodes List will get you the best answers your
questioning can find anywhere on land or sea, questions like yours are best
directed to me. The reason, a terrible dumb notion that if we come up with
a better way, we do it in the next boat. This can have owners familiar with
what is on their year boat and anxious to help you, not necessarily tuned
into how your year boat is built.
>>
>> Send an email to me at <stan at generalboats.com>and I will go over the
technicalities re this upgrading.
>>
>> stan
>>
>>
>> On 1/25/22 6:13 PM, R Brown wrote:
>>> Charlie, I?m new to the Rhodes group, just purchased a 2001, and was
wondering if your tiller/motor connector is still available?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Rodney.
> .
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 19:38:39 -0600
From: Rodney Brown <rnelson204 at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor-Tiller Interconnector Still for
sale
Message-ID:
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Thanks Stan! Appreciate you sending this ?
On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 19:37 stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>
> Rodney and Crew,
>
> Before I forget here is Charles direct contact info:
>
> Charles Gabriel <charles.gabriel at gmail.com>
>
> The info on your two initial items of interest is a mixed bag. The new
> traveler invention is one of those middle of the night inspirations that
> it turned out we can build all of, in-house. When we discovered that
> Yamaha had finally discovered sailboats and built a motor perfect for
> our needs (standard 20 inch long shaft, high thrust meaning low RPM
> motor sporting a larger 4 bladed sailboat pitch prop) along with both
> its speed and direction controls in a single fitting that mounts on the
> sailboat's tiller, we were in heaven. We knew that coming up with a
> linkage system from the Rhodes rudder head to that motor is what we do
> in our sleep and we are going to have an outboard auxiliary set up like
> no other. And we did; and owners loved it. But
> to be continued . . . .
>
> ss
>
>
> On 1/25/22 8:53 PM, RODNEY BROWN wrote:
> > Thanks for the info Stan, do you have Charlie?s contact to follow up on
> the availability of traveller and motor-tiller unit? Thanks again for
your
> help, and for taking time to get back to me. Seems your computer bugs
> seemed to be ironed out.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Rodney Brown
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 6:53 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Rodney,
> >>
> >> This is Stan, builder of your boat. Charles has been kind enough to
> handle the parts part of the business and will hopefully continue to do
> so. I have been off line with some computer problems and this is my first
> try since its repair; hope it's working.
> >>
> >> While owning a Rhodes is like wearing a badge of how bright its owner
> is, and while looking to the Rhodes List will get you the best answers
your
> questioning can find anywhere on land or sea, questions like yours are
best
> directed to me. The reason, a terrible dumb notion that if we come up
with
> a better way, we do it in the next boat. This can have owners familiar
with
> what is on their year boat and anxious to help you, not necessarily tuned
> into how your year boat is built.
> >>
> >> Send an email to me at <stan at generalboats.com>and I will go over the
> technicalities re this upgrading.
> >>
> >> stan
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/25/22 6:13 PM, R Brown wrote:
> >>> Charlie, I?m new to the Rhodes group, just purchased a 2001, and was
> wondering if your tiller/motor connector is still available?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Rodney.
> > .
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 23:06:03 -0500
From: Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
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Jeff,
Thanks for sharing this. I have been hoping to add a whisker pole to my
boat.
Question: did you rig guys to control the position of the pole or do you
just use the jib sheets?
Michael McKay
(630) 209-2054 (m)
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> ?Last Spring I built a combination Boat Pole/ Whisker Pole Combo that is
> stored upright in front of the mast. I fiberglassed a carabiner in one
end
> and a boat pole tip into the other. When used as a whisker pole the boat
> pole tip is inserted into the clew of the 135% genoa and the carabiner end
> clips on to a bale on the mast.
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jeffsmithphoto.net%2FBoats%2FWhisker-Boat-Pole%2Fn-WnpmmF%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6ef3b1d19c154dab068408d9ec1ccb45%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637800430728606629%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=c7cFSXCdI0K3wYhQZsxCbtl8s1XYWP15w6lTdUAyA2Y%3D&reserved=0>.
> To store, the carabiner end slides up on the mast secured by a large bale
> that was a part of the mast raising system and the boat pole end rests in
> the lower mast bale. There are two pieces of swim tubes attached to
prevent
> rattling. The outer yellow pole was wrapped in blue 3M electrical tape to
> match the color scheme of Radiant.
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.truevalue.com%2F6-to-12-ft-fiberglass-extension-pole&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6ef3b1d19c154dab068408d9ec1ccb45%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637800430728606629%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=l%2BcIjc5Igl34LuMkEUS01nBvtFPxxDZk2FQtNaE6sD8%3D&reserved=0
>
> Best regards,
> Jeff Smith
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 10:01:59 -0500
From: Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
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I have cropped into the shot of the pole on the mast. it should give an
idea of the 2 bales. Maybe best viewed on a computer for detail. So far I
have just used the sheets for control, but may add a downhaul. In the shots
shown it was blowing 15-18 knots and there was not too much spill from the
top of the jib.
I should have said "epoxied" instead of "fiberglassed" in the original
post. More closeups of the 2 ends of the pole were added.
Best regards,
Jeff
JeffSmithPhoto.Net
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 16:41:09 +0000
From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
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Hi All,
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium has a whisker pole and a spinnaker pole. Both poles
are rigged with double bridles for a topping lift and a vang. In light air,
the weight of the pole tends to collapse the headsail. You need the topping
lift to support the weight of the pole and allow the headsail to inflate.
Conversely, in heavy air, the clew of the headsail tends to rise up and
cause an inefficient, unstable, too full sail shape. You need the vang to
hold the clew of the headsail down.
Using a double bridle for the topping lift and the vang keeps the snap
shackles over the foredeck vs out at the end of the pole. This enables an
end for end pole swap when gibing the headsail, which is safer on this size
boat, especially in heavy air.
When sailing, I stow the whisker pole and spinnaker pole in chocks mounted
on the cabin roof and foredeck. This keeps the windage and weight down low
and won?t catch a sheet or the genoa clew when tacking. At a dock or at
anchor, I can store my poles vertically up against the front of the mast.
This clears the foredeck of tripping hazards when you want to lounge up
there. I wind the double bridles around the poles and secure them with
Velcro straps to secure them for storage. It?s a racing setup; but, it
works very well for cruising.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
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I have cropped into the shot of the pole on the mast. it should give an
idea of the 2 bales. Maybe best viewed on a computer for detail. So far I
have just used the sheets for control, but may add a downhaul. In the shots
shown it was blowing 15-18 knots and there was not too much spill from the
top of the jib.
I should have said "epoxied" instead of "fiberglassed" in the original
post. More closeups of the 2 ends of the pole were added.
Best regards,
Jeff
JeffSmithPhoto.Net
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 11:53:03 -0500
From: Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
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Thanks Jeff,
A photo (or in this case, photos) is worth a thousand words.
I still have a question though.
Why am I seeing two bulbous coverings of blue tape when I only see one
bulbous spot on the origin pole. Is that just for storage against the mast?
Stan, if your computer is working, I would love to see your thoughts on the
use of a whisker pole when wing on wing and also your thoughts on using a
jibe preventer?
Any thoughts from other Rhodies obviously welcome too!
G
> On Jan 27, 2022, at 10:01, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jeffsmithphoto.net%2FBoats%2FWhisker-Boat-Pole%2Fn-WnpmmF%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6ef3b1d19c154dab068408d9ec1ccb45%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637800430728606629%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=c7cFSXCdI0K3wYhQZsxCbtl8s1XYWP15w6lTdUAyA2Y%3D&reserved=0
> I have cropped into the shot of the pole on the mast. it should give an
> idea of the 2 bales. Maybe best viewed on a computer for detail. So far I
> have just used the sheets for control, but may add a downhaul. In the
shots
> shown it was blowing 15-18 knots and there was not too much spill from the
> top of the jib.
> I should have said "epoxied" instead of "fiberglassed" in the original
> post. More closeups of the 2 ends of the pole were added.
>
> Best regards,
> Jeff
> JeffSmithPhoto.Net
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 16:55:15 +0000
From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
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Hi All,
The attached photo shows S/V Dynamic Equilibrium flying her triradial
spinnaker on a light air close reach. You can see the topping lift attached
to the double bridle on the spinnaker pole and led to a block on the mast at
about ? mast height. From there, the topping lift is led down the mast and
back to the cockpit. The vang is not rigged in this light air shot. The
spinnaker pole is almost touching the forestay on this close reach.
Note how the sail is fully inflated despite the lack of wind.
You can also see the spinnaker snuffer sock all bunched up at the head of
the spinnaker. I think the whisker pole was stowed down below in the cabin
in this shot.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
Hi All,
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium has a whisker pole and a spinnaker pole. Both poles
are rigged with double bridles for a topping lift and a vang. In light air,
the weight of the pole tends to collapse the headsail. You need the topping
lift to support the weight of the pole and allow the headsail to inflate.
Conversely, in heavy air, the clew of the headsail tends to rise up and
cause an inefficient, unstable, too full sail shape. You need the vang to
hold the clew of the headsail down.
Using a double bridle for the topping lift and the vang keeps the snap
shackles over the foredeck vs out at the end of the pole. This enables an
end for end pole swap when gibing the headsail, which is safer on this size
boat, especially in heavy air.
When sailing, I stow the whisker pole and spinnaker pole in chocks mounted
on the cabin roof and foredeck. This keeps the windage and weight down low
and won?t catch a sheet or the genoa clew when tacking. At a dock or at
anchor, I can store my poles vertically up against the front of the mast.
This clears the foredeck of tripping hazards when you want to lounge up
there. I wind the double bridles around the poles and secure them with
Velcro straps to secure them for storage. It?s a racing setup; but, it
works very well for cruising.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
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I have cropped into the shot of the pole on the mast. it should give an
idea of the 2 bales. Maybe best viewed on a computer for detail. So far I
have just used the sheets for control, but may add a downhaul. In the shots
shown it was blowing 15-18 knots and there was not too much spill from the
top of the jib.
I should have said "epoxied" instead of "fiberglassed" in the original
post. More closeups of the 2 ends of the pole were added.
Best regards,
Jeff
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:00:10 -0500
From: Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
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Hi Roger,.
That sounds like a great set up although I am too nervous a sailor to
consider a spinnaker. However I really would like to figure a way to use a
vang and/or preventer for the main on downwind runs. Any ideas or photos
anyone?
Graham
'sv 00Sailin'
> On Jan 27, 2022, at 11:55, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> The attached photo shows S/V Dynamic Equilibrium flying her triradial
spinnaker on a light air close reach. You can see the topping lift attached
to the double bridle on the spinnaker pole and led to a block on the mast at
about ? mast height. From there, the topping lift is led down the mast and
back to the cockpit. The vang is not rigged in this light air shot. The
spinnaker pole is almost touching the forestay on this close reach.
>
> Note how the sail is fully inflated despite the lack of wind.
>
> You can also see the spinnaker snuffer sock all bunched up at the head of
the spinnaker. I think the whisker pole was stowed down below in the cabin
in this shot.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> [cid:image001.jpg at 01D81374.5EDD86E0]
>
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> From: ROGER PIHLAJA<mailto:roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 8:41 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
>
> Hi All,
>
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium has a whisker pole and a spinnaker pole. Both
poles are rigged with double bridles for a topping lift and a vang. In
light air, the weight of the pole tends to collapse the headsail. You need
the topping lift to support the weight of the pole and allow the headsail to
inflate. Conversely, in heavy air, the clew of the headsail tends to rise
up and cause an inefficient, unstable, too full sail shape. You need the
vang to hold the clew of the headsail down.
>
> Using a double bridle for the topping lift and the vang keeps the snap
shackles over the foredeck vs out at the end of the pole. This enables an
end for end pole swap when gibing the headsail, which is safer on this size
boat, especially in heavy air.
>
> When sailing, I stow the whisker pole and spinnaker pole in chocks mounted
on the cabin roof and foredeck. This keeps the windage and weight down low
and won?t catch a sheet or the genoa clew when tacking. At a dock or at
anchor, I can store my poles vertically up against the front of the mast.
This clears the foredeck of tripping hazards when you want to lounge up
there. I wind the double bridles around the poles and secure them with
Velcro straps to secure them for storage. It?s a racing setup; but, it
works very well for cruising.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
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> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole
>
>
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> I have cropped into the shot of the pole on the mast. it should give an
> idea of the 2 bales. Maybe best viewed on a computer for detail. So far I
> have just used the sheets for control, but may add a downhaul. In the
shots
> shown it was blowing 15-18 knots and there was not too much spill from the
> top of the jib.
> I should have said "epoxied" instead of "fiberglassed" in the original
> post. More closeups of the 2 ends of the pole were added.
>
> Best regards,
> Jeff
> JeffSmithPhoto.Net
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:52:55 -0500
From: Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
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The second bulge (which is probably pipe insulation rather than swim
noodles) was added to further stop rattling. They may also keep the pole
from sinking should it go overboard.
Best Regards
Jeff Smith
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 08:28:27 -0500
From: Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
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?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 28, 2022, at 7:53 AM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> ?The second bulge (which is probably pipe insulation rather than swim
> noodles) was added to further stop rattling. They may also keep the pole
> from sinking should it go overboard.
>
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 12:34:34 -0500
From: Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Remote Control & Receiver available
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I have a remote control & receiver available if someone needs it.
I purchased to replace the remote control for the electric motor lift that
came with Rhodes. The existing one was not reliable.
I then decided to have up-down switches installed next to the outboard
since I wanted to be next to the outboard as I was raising or lowering the
motor.
The package includes a remote fob, a received and instructions for
installation and troubleshooting.
See the attached picture.
Bob Garrant
Sail la Vie
Kent Island, MD
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 16:36:49 -0500
From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller Pilot Recommendations
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Hi Roger,
I am finally prepared to install a Tiller Pilot on s/v Liber and am hoping
to get some additional advice before I start.
1) What is the best way to route the wiring harness to the starboard coaming
pocket?
2) Did you connect your Tiller Pilot to the electric panel or bypass that
and connect it to the house battery directly? I do understand that an
inline fuse is required in either case.
I do plan on eventually installing a chartplotter and integrating the Tiller
Pilot with that, but that is a project for another day.
Thank you for all your contributions to this forum!
Mike McKay
s/v Liber (2006/2018)
Allatoona Lake
Acworth, GA
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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of ROGER
PIHLAJA
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 9:13 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller Pilot Recommendations
Mike,
I?ve had a Raymarine ST1000+ Tiller Pilot on S/V Dynamic Equilibrium for
about 15 years. I found it most convenient to use the Raymarine Pedestal
Socket to mount the ST1000+ onto the top of the gunnel. I believe I used
the shortest socket assembly 38 mm (P/N: D026) to adjust the vertical
position to level out the ST1000+ relative to the tiller. But, you should
measure your boat before ordering this part. If the ST1000+ is not level
relative to the tiller; then, the geometry changes as the actuator strokes
and the effective gain of the controller will not be constant. Variable
controller gain is not conducive to holding a steady course. You will also
need some pushrod extensions. I believe I used the 152 mm (P/N: D008) + the
25 mm (P/N: D003) pushrod extensions. But, again, you should measure your
boat before ordering these parts. On the tiller, I used the standard tiller
pin, epoxied in place. Be careful to get compound angle of the pin correct
on the tiller when yo
u drill the hole. Remember you only get one chance to drill this hole
correctly. If you screw it up; then, the tiller is ruined! You want the
pin to be vertical with the tiller fully lowered and located 460 mm from the
centerline of the rudder?s pintles. The Pedestal Socket comes with a big
backing plate to facilitate thru bolting. I did not reinforce the gunnel
and have had no issues with structural failure. I mounted the waterproof
plug and socket on the side of the cockpit coaming aft of the ST1000, so it
would not obstruct seating while the ST1000+ is in use.
If you only want to use your ST1000+ as a basic autopilot with no
communication to other instruments via the Seatalk bus or NMEA 0183 bus;
then, all you need to provide is 12 amps DC power. The circuit should be
separately fused. If you want to use the hand held remote &/or communicate
with other instruments; then, contact me off the list and I will try to
assist.
Basically, it?s a pretty easy installation although there are a few
potential booby traps. The supplied owner?s handbook is pretty good. If
you take your time, follow the instructions, and measure twice/cut once;
then, you?ll be fine. It?s a very useful accessory and I really like mine.
It?s been totally bulletproof.
My ST1000+ does best on points of sail forward of the beam, ie beam reaching
up to close hauled. On points of sail aft of the beam, ie broad reach to a
run, there is usually a following sea. When that following sea is hitting
the boat from a stern quarter, it requires the helmsman to anticipate the
effect of a wave by counter steering as the wave is passing under the boat.
The ST1000+ (Or any autopilot) has no way to anticipate anything. So, it?s
always in reactive mode and the steered course can look a little wobbly. It
helps to reduce sail area and distribute the sail area fore/aft to keep the
helm balanced. Of course, these are conditions that require the most skill
and attention from a human helmsman as well. The ST1000+ is not as good at
maintaining a downwind course as a skilled helmsman who is paying attention.
But, it?s better than a newby helmsman or a tired &/or inattentive helmsman.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
From: Michael D. Weisner<mailto:mweisner at ebsmed.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 6:12 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Ric,
I'm afraid to ask what you do that you could not do without it. ;-)
I love mine, too. And to think that I used to use a "tiller jock" to lock
the tiller in place when I single handed with my two year old. With the
autopilot, we could have both been sailing from the bow with our feet in the
water using the remote to steer!
Mike
s/v Windlass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY
-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Ric
Stott
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 5:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller Pilot Recommendations
Love love love my Raymarine autotiller.
Could not do what I do without it.
Ric
sv Dadventure
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 18, 2021, at 5:30 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>
> ?I have the Raymarine ST1000. Actually, I depend on it so heavily, that I
have two. I have had one stop working. I sent it back to Raymarine and
they fixed it a no cost.
>
> Attached is a document created by Bill Wickman about his installation of
the ST1000. I followed this pretty closely. However, at the point where
the tiller pilot attaches to the cockpit combing, he said he found the
fiberglass to be thick, and needed no reinforcement. I found the fiberglass
to be quite thin at the point, and epoxied in a block of 3/4? thick
hardwood.
>
> I have no experience with the Simrad.
>
> Good luck with your project.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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>> On Feb 18, 2021, at 5:13 PM, MichaelM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I'm hoping to install a Raymarine or Simrad tiller pilot in my boat.
>>
>> Can you share your experience with either unit and what challenges if
>> any did you encountered during the installation?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Mike McKay
>> s/v Liber 2006/2018
>>
>>
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 14:59:25 -0800
From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller Pilot Recommendations
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Mike,
I'm not Roger, but I'll offer some of my experience anyway.
First, I hope you've found Bill Wickman's write-up of the installation of a
Raymarine ST-1000 on his boat:
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To answer your second question first, I had an unused circuit on my
electrical panel, and used that to power the tiller pilot. Since that
placed a breaker into the circuit, I did not also include and inline fuse.
It seems to me that would be redundant.
As for the routing of wires... If you have the standard General Boat
galley, there's an area that's below the electrical panel, above the
counter-top and behind the sliding panels. If you drill a hole in the aft
panel of this area, you will have an opening into the interior space of the
starboard coaming. Do this close to the hull, just to be sure you're not
drilling a hole into the cockpit.
Best of luck,
Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
> On 2022-01-31, at 16:36:49 EST, Michael McKay wrote:
>
> Hi Roger,
>
> I am finally prepared to install a Tiller Pilot on s/v Liber and am hoping
to
> get some additional advice before I start.
>
> 1) What is the best way to route the wiring harness to the starboard
coaming
> pocket?
> 2) Did you connect your Tiller Pilot to the electric panel or bypass that
and
> connect it to the house battery directly? I do understand that an inline
fuse
> is required in either case.
>
> I do plan on eventually installing a chartplotter and integrating the
Tiller
> Pilot with that, but that is a project for another day.
>
> Thank you for all your contributions to this forum!
>
> Mike McKay
> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> Allatoona Lake
> Acworth, GA
>
>
>
>
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 19:29:23 -0600
From: RODNEY BROWN <rnelson204 at gmail.com>
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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Help a rookie out: How to post a reply to a
thread
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Gang , I?m beyond embarrassed at this point, but when I in the archive view,
I can?t for the life of me figure out to reply to an topic or thread? Any
help would be greatly appreciated.
Rodney
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2022 18:45:36 -0800
From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help a rookie out: How to post a reply to
a thread
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Rodney,
Although you can see the archive of messages in a web page, this is strictly
an email list*. The only way to start new threads or respond to an existing
thread is by sending an email to the list.
Are you getting postings from the list in your email inbox?
--Peter
* This may change in the future, but at its core, it will still be an email
list.
> On 2022-02-01, at 20:29:23 EST, RODNEY BROWN wrote:
>
> Gang , I?m beyond embarrassed at this point, but when I in the archive
view, I
> can?t for the life of me figure out to reply to an topic or thread? Any
help
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Rodney
>
>
>
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