[Rhodes22-list] Quick turn instructions

Scott Andrews sea20 at verizon.net
Sat Jan 22 12:44:33 EST 2022


Thanks Roger! That’s definitely on my spring to do list. This will be my first season in a slip.
Scott A. 86’ Rhodes22 

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> On Jan 22, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
> Roger:
> 
> I am trying to use your advice and translate it for my situation where the
> dock would be on my port and I would tie up on my starboard side once in the
> slip. 
> 
> I have taken your instructions and stripped them down to the actual steps.
> I have  added questions in square brackets where I am unsure about your
> instructions. Would you please look at this and tell me if this sequence is
> correct? 
> 
> Should I be assuming that when you refer to "yaw" you are referring to the
> boat rotating in place without much forward movement?
> 
> Dock on Port side as I approach
> 
> a.    Shift the motor into neutral and 
> b.    turn the motor’s tiller all the way the port. [as though I was
> turning to starboard? Do I let the rudder tiller go free?]  
> 
>    When your bow is even with the end of the finger pier, do the
> following in quick succession.  
> 
> c.    Shift into reverse, apply full throttle, and 
> d.    put the boat tiller hard over [as though to turn to port?]
> e.    At about 45 deg of yaw, throttle the motor back to idle and then 
> f.    shift into neutral.  
> g.    Straighten out the outboard tiller and the boat tiller.
> 
> I will definitely practice this in open water before attempting it in my
> very restricted docking area.
> 
> Thanks for this and any further explanation.
> 
> Graham Stewart
> Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
> ROGER PIHLAJA
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 10:06 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Quick turn instructions
> 
> Bob & Jeff,
> 
> The fastest way to make your Rhodes 22 turn a corner under power does not
> involve the tiller-outboard connecting linkage.
> 
> Assume you want to make a hard turn to port in the minimum possible area.
> You setup by motoring along  slowly, say 2-3 knots, just enough speed to
> maintain rudder steering control.  Put the desired slip about 1 boat length
> away to port.  Assume you are going for a port side docking against a finger
> pier.  Shift the motor into neutral and turn the motor’s tiller all the way
> the port.  When your bow is even with the end of the finger pier, do the
> following in quick succession.  Shift into reverse, apply full throttle, and
> put the boat tiller hard over.  Hang on to something!  The boat will yaw 90
> deg to port in about 1 sec!  It will simultaneously slow down, side slip
> about 1/3 boat length to starboard, and drift forward about ¾ boat length.
> At about 45 deg of yaw, throttle the motor back to idle and then shift into
> neutral.  Straighten out the outboard tiller and the boat tiller.  The
> boat’s rotational inertia will complete the 90 deg of yaw.  Note, the hull
> and shoal draft keel produce a lot of drag vs. yawing.  The boat will use up
> it’s rotational inertia very quickly.  With a little bit of practice, you
> will end up virtually stopped at the entrance to the slip, with your bow
> pointed into the slip, and about 12 inches of clearance between your port
> side rub rail and the pier.  Now shift into forward and idle into your slip.
> For a starboard quick turn, simply turn the motor tiller to starboard before
> shifting into reverse.
> 
> This technique is also very useful to force the bow to yaw into strong cross
> wind &/or cross current.  It’s also very useful for a stern to docking.
> 
> It’s best to practice this maneuver in open water a few time before
> attempting it in a crowded marina.  You will be impressed with how much
> faster the boat will yaw when the motor is simultaneously applying sideways
> and reverse thrust to the transom.  Obviously, the tiller-outboard
> connecting linkage cannot be connected to execute this maneuver.
> 
> Try this technique, it will make you look like a docking genius!
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 
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> From: Bob Garrant<mailto:bgarrant at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 5:43 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller-Outboard Interconnect question
> 
> That’s what I’m looking for. My slip is in a corner so i only have 90° To
> maneuver in rather than 180°. So every little bit helps.
> I appreciate all the guidance from those way more experienced than I am
> with this vessel.
> Bob
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 7:10 AM Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I use the connection to my Yamaha 8 only when approching the mooring or
>> dock.  It enables me to make a tighter more controlled turn.
>> 
>> Best Regards
>> Jeff Smith
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