[Rhodes22-list] 12' Boat/ Whisker Pole

Graham Parker gramille at tds.net
Thu Jan 27 12:00:10 EST 2022


Hi Roger,.
 That sounds like a great set up although I am too nervous a sailor to consider a spinnaker. However I really would like to figure a way to use a vang and/or preventer for the main on downwind runs. Any ideas or photos anyone?
Graham
'sv 00Sailin' 

> On Jan 27, 2022, at 11:55, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> The attached photo shows S/V Dynamic Equilibrium flying her triradial spinnaker on a light air close reach.  You can see the topping lift attached to the double bridle on the spinnaker pole and led to a block on the mast at about ¾ mast height.  From there, the topping lift is led down the mast and back to the cockpit.  The vang is not rigged in this light air shot.  The spinnaker pole is almost touching the forestay on this close reach.
> 
> Note how the sail is fully inflated despite the lack of wind.
> 
> You can also see the spinnaker snuffer sock all bunched up at the head of the spinnaker.  I think the whisker pole was stowed down below in the cabin in this shot.
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 
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> From: ROGER PIHLAJA<mailto:roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
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> Hi All,
> 
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium has a whisker pole and a spinnaker pole.  Both poles are rigged with double bridles for a topping lift and a vang.  In light air, the weight of the pole tends to collapse the headsail.  You need the topping lift to support the weight of the pole and allow the headsail to inflate.  Conversely, in heavy air, the clew of the headsail tends to rise up and cause an inefficient, unstable, too full sail shape.  You need the vang to hold the clew of the headsail down.
> 
> Using a double bridle for the topping lift and the vang keeps the snap shackles over the foredeck vs out at the end of the pole.  This enables an end for end pole swap when gibing the headsail, which is safer on this size boat, especially in heavy air.
> 
> When sailing, I stow the whisker pole and spinnaker pole in chocks mounted on the cabin roof and foredeck.  This keeps the windage and weight down low and won’t catch a sheet or the genoa clew when tacking.  At a dock or at anchor, I can store my poles vertically up against the front of the mast.  This clears the foredeck of tripping hazards when you want to lounge up there.  I wind the double bridles around the poles and secure them with Velcro straps to secure them for storage.  It’s a racing setup; but, it works very well for cruising.
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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> I have cropped into the shot of the pole on the mast.  it should give an
> idea of the 2 bales.  Maybe best viewed on a computer for detail. So far I
> have just used the sheets for control, but may add a downhaul. In the shots
> shown it was blowing 15-18 knots and there was not too much spill from the
> top of the jib.
> I should have said "epoxied" instead of "fiberglassed" in the original
> post. More closeups of the 2 ends of the pole were added.
> 
> Best regards,
> Jeff
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