[Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Seat Drains Replacement

Brian Ferguson brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 28 08:58:09 EDT 2022


Graham,
Thanks for the pictures and explanation. It actually makes so much sense. I
was actually trying to see if I could make it happen with a thru-hull, but
the scupper you showed with the different profile is definitely what I'm
looking for. I was overthinking it and thought of attaching it somehow
underneath.
To Jesse and Roger, yes, this started as a smaller project and then built
up momentum. I'd like to be done in under six years though. For what it's
worth I discovered that some of my ballast is made up of lead wheel
weights. Found those when I was "screwdriver-checking" the stringers in the
bilge.

On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 7:55 AM Jesse Shumaker <
jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ha, I know what you mean.  If anyone sees my boat while I have several
> winter projects underway, it would be embarrassing.  Until the cleanup
> happens it can look like there's no way back to a respectable shape in the
> foreseeable future.
>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 8:18 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Jesse :
> >
> > If I knew where these projects would lead I probably would known better
> > than to start. My 6 year reconstruction project started with trying to
> fix
> > a soft spot on the deck. Once you start taking things apart you keep
> > finding other problems that also need to be fixed and you can end up
> going
> > backwards for years before things begin to move forward. My wife was sure
> > that I had utterly destroyed the boat and would never complete the
> > restoration. I had a few moments when I thought the same thing.
> >
> > Graham Stewart
> > gstewart8 at cogeco.ca
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf
> > Of Jesse Shumaker
> > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 8:43 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Seat Drains Replacement
> >
> > Graham, your reply had me laughing since my projects usually go the
> > opposite way.  I start on one project, which leads to another (probably
> > bigger project), and suddenly I've decided to tackle a bunch more things
> > while I'm at it.  You seemed to have planned upfront to take on
> everything
> > right up front.
> >
> > Jesse Shumaker
> > S/V Zephyr
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 6:24 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Roger:
> > > Perhaps I should have pointed out that I replaced the deck drains
> because
> > > I was planning to paint the boat rather than imply that I painted the
> > boat
> > > because I changed the cockpit drains.
> > >
> > > Graham Stewart
> > > gstewart8 at cogeco.ca
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of ROGER PIHLAJA
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 1:48 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Seat Drains Replacement
> > >
> > > Graham,
> > >
> > > You always were an overachiever!
> > >
> > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Mar 26, 2022, at 1:41 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Roger is absolutely right about painting epoxy. I should have
> > mentioned
> > > that. In this case I painted the entire deck and cockpit.
> > > >
> > > > Graham Stewart
> > > > Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
> > > > Kingston Ontario
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > > Behalf Of ROGER PIHLAJA
> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 1:11 PM
> > > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Seat Drains Replacement
> > > >
> > > > Hi Brian,
> > > >
> > > > I did something similar with the cockpit seat drains on my Rhodes 22.
> > I
> > > would add one thing to what Graham is proposing.  Epoxy does not have
> > good
> > > resistance to UV.  Therefore, it is important that you put a coat of
> > paint
> > > over the exposed epoxy around the thru hull.
> > > >
> > > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > >> On Mar 25, 2022, at 10:19 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Brian:
> > > >> What you saw was probably my post quite a few years ago. I have a 76
> > > and found the drains to be inadequate as they would quickly fill with
> > > leaves. Also the depression around the thruhull combined with the
> > mushroom
> > > thru-hull caught water that did not drain and left a stain.
> > > >>
> > > >> I replaced the 3.4" thru-hull in the transom with a 1 1/2' thru-hull
> > > and the one in the cockpit with a flush mount scupper. To set the
> > scupper I
> > > covered the scupper with plastic wrap, placed it in the enlarged and
> > > reinforced hole and filled the depression with epoxy/filler to get the
> > > proper shape. I then removed the scupper, removed the plastic and reset
> > the
> > > scupper back into the hole with sealant. That gave me a nice flush
> > mounted
> > > drain that never gets plugged.
> > > >>
> > > >> I have attached a few pictures.
> > > >>
> > > >> Graham Stewart
> > > >> Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
> > > >> Kingston Ontario
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > > Behalf Of Brian Ferguson
> > > >> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 1:33 PM
> > > >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > > >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Seat Drains Replacement
> > > >>
> > > >> I've searched the archives for this, but came up slim on details. My
> > '76
> > > >> came with cockpit seat drains that were probably 3/4 inch hoses run
> to
> > > the
> > > >> transom. I read in the archives that someone used a larger hose/tube
> > and
> > > >> opened the hole in the seat to a larger diameter. I'm not concerned
> > > about
> > > >> the transom opening, it's the seat drain where I need the help.
> > > >> My questions is what would you use to create a drain and how to
> attach
> > > it
> > > >> to the seat mold. I was thinking of using a thru-hull and
> > fiberglassing
> > > it
> > > >> underneath/inside the lazarette.
> > > >> Thanks in advance,
> > > >>
> > > >> Brian
> > > >>
> > > >> NewIn76
> > > >> Sumter, SC
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