[Rhodes22-list] Pop too hard enclosure

Wed May 18 15:05:40 EDT 2022

Ric,
Thanks for the suggestion, the front panel fit snugly under the starboard
cockpit seat, not a mm to spare. This is not planned. The two side panels
sit on top and there's still room to slide a shallow container on top. I
need straps to tie the 3 panels down.

Roger,
Q1, I sew a PVC cover for the back, first time sewing, lots of language,
please see pictures attached.
Q2, No windows. Slide open the hatch for ventilation, push the whole top up
for more. If needed, I will add a strip of fine mosquito nettings and
velcro the netting from the raised FG top to the 3 panels. I should be able
to sew this strip with ease now.

I have an old pop top enclosure and it doesn't fit any more. The rigid
panels can be installed a lot easier, installed without leaving the cabin.

Just came back from a solo shake down sail with all the tops up. Duck
survived all points of sail, top stay put.
It is still a work in progress.

Photos will be on a seperate email. Gmail doesn't like oneDrive.

patrick

On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 9:43 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
>
> I like the smooth, clean look of your hard pop top enclosure.  However, I
> have two questions:
>
>
>   1.  My canvas pop top enclosure has provision for sealing off the
> companionway hatch above the hatch cover boards.   On your hard pop top
> enclosure, is there another piece that seals off the companionway hatch
> opening that is not shown in the picture?
>   2.  The side windows and door on my canvas pop top enclosure have
> windows.  Each of these windows is complete with inner privacy screens,
> insect screens, and clear plastic windows that shed rain.  Does your hard
> pop top enclosure have any provisions for ventilation and privacy?
>
> The following 6 pictures are from the archives:
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> As you can see, the canvas pop top enclosure rolls up and fits loosely
> into a 20 liter dry bag.  This dry bag will fit up under the gunnel behind
> the cockpit seats.  I have some Velcro straps up there to keep it in
> place.  There is enough room on the foredeck to do the 6 illustrated
> folding steps, although it’s easier on the dock or a lawn.
>
> Do you sail with your hard pop top up?
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
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> From: Ric Stott<mailto:ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 5:28 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pop too hard enclosure
>
> We’ll done Patrick. Very nice look.
> I think they could be stored under the cockpit seats if a clever support
> was crafted, they would disappear under the seat and leave room on the
> cockpit sole for more.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 17, 2022, at 5:13 PM, Brian Ferguson <
> brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I’m getting a Com-Pac 23/IV vibe from that picture.
> >
> >> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 16:44 Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Very impressive!
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 17, 2022, 4:39 PM Patrick Cheung <chitakcheung at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Someone wanted to see the exterior, here you go.
> >>>
> >>> Patrick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On May 17, 2022, at 8:08 AM, Patrick Cheung <chitakcheung at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hi Graham,
> >>>> I am still thinking where to stow the board.
> >>>> I am thinking of standing them up forward and against the bulkhead. I
> >>> previously lowered the floor at the head area, and there's enough
> height
> >> to
> >>> stow the boards.
> >>>>
> >>>> patrick
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 7:59 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Jeff, Peter, & Patrick,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Peter is correct about just keeping out rain when the boat is not
> >>> moving.  However, if you trailer your boat in the rain &/or ever take
> >> green
> >>> water over the deck while sailing; then, you will find the raised lip
> >>> around the pop top will not be enough.  Patrick is correct about the
> >>> adhesive backed closed cell foam tape adhered to the top and bottom
> edge.
> >>> This foam-to-foam seal will keep out all but the most driving rain,
> even
> >> at
> >>> expressway speeds.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Roger Pihlaja
> >>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: Patrick Cheung<mailto:chitakcheung at gmail.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 6:13 PM
> >>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pop too hard enclosure
> >>>>>
> >>>>> White foam sponge tape, will be adhered to top and bottom edge.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Patrick
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On May 16, 2022, at 9:09 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I wouldn't think it needs one.  You're just keeping rain out.  The
> >>> raised lip around the pop-top should be enough to keep water out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --Peter
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2022-05-16, at 20:51:22 EDT, Jeff Kantor wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What provides the weather seal at the deck?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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