[Rhodes22-list] IMF Mast and Sail

Tue Jan 17 21:13:33 EST 2023

Guys,
Having produced many satisfied generations of the The R22 Boom Room, I can vouch for the logic of upgrade from the the earlier vintage Continental, primarily structure improvements. My first R22, 70"s vintage had to have the transom reinforced to cope with heavier motors and operation stresses. The '84 and each following year models, were actually made with Stan's close oversight. My '86, s/v MaryJane, was made at the GB plant. Stan, being a perfectionist, controlled every detail.  
So - watch transom strength. 
Another potential weakness is in the deck loading of the mast by both mast weight and over-tightening of the stays. I have seen R22 fleet boats with a concave top deck which will be the result. Hand tightening is the rule of thumb. Mast weight of the IMF is much greater than the conventional. I would not put IMF on a Continental hull for this reason.
Such sage advise !
As a footnote I am offering my '84 or my '86 this Spring. My '80 (namely ME) is also vintage according to my dear wife.
Best to you,
Art CzerwonkyAtlanta

ca

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  On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 5:38 PM, Ric Stott<ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:   Did your trailer survive? 
If not - almost any trailer will do it - the boat is  gutted. 
No hardware, no rigging, no interior. 
It would definitely be a project. 
If you do not rebuild your boat - I’m interested in parts. 
Ric 
Dadventure 
PS would like to see a photo of the tree on the boat. 
Hope the tree guy had insurance! 

Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
ric at stottarchitecture.com
O -631-283-1777
C- 516-965-3164

> On Jan 17, 2023, at 5:24 PM, Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> That boat did look pretty good, but you need a trailer to grab it.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tue, Jan 17, 2023 5:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] IMF Mast and Sail
> 
> Ouch!!! 
> Mike  parted out his ’86 boat 
> The hull is in his yard about to be crushed and recycled. 
> The hull looked pretty good although i didn’t look close. He’s in Quincy Mass 
> Bet you could get it for a song. UP to MIke of course. 
> If you are interested - give him a call. 
> ‭(508) 374-3974‬
> Ric 
> Dadventure 
> 
> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> O -631-283-1777
> C- 516-965-3164
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 17, 2023, at 3:07 PM, David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ric.
>> 
>> The trick I’ve learned with rigging the IMF is to get the inthaul line wrapped properly and to fasten the mainsail properly to the furling tube top and bottom (very taught). I’ve only had to do it twice so I’m probably consciously incompetent. 
>> 
>> Do we know that the mast is extruded from the same die for furling and IMF? I would assume so but you know what they say about assumptions. 
>> 
>> Need cleats on the bottom of the boom to secure the inhale and at the aft end for outhaul. 
>> 
>> Happy to talk it through if you like.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Dave B
>> 
>>> On Dec 31, 2022, at 5:44 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ric,
>>> 
>>> I don't recall anyone ever posting about a conversion from a 'standard' rig to an IMF rig in the past, so I'm not surprised by the lack of response to your questions.  How many people have experience with both?  Stan probably know the answers to some of your questions, but it seems unlikely that we'll hear from him on this.
>>> 
>>> I can answer one question: my IMF main has no batten (I'm pretty sure).
>>> 
>>> So, as you sail into uncharted territory (metaphorically speaking), I would encourage you to fully document the conversion process.  If you could create a nice PDF document, it could find a place in the Document Library section.
>>> 
>>> --Peter
>>> 
>>>> On 2022-12-30, at 17:31:26 EST, Ric Stott wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Happy New Year Rhodies !
>>>> I have a few questions - - -
>>>> Sorry if I’m repeating myself.
>>>> I received favorable replies to my previous question about the value of the 
>>>> change. 
>>>> To reiterate.
>>>> I have the opportunity to convert my 1986 Continental Rig to and IMF mast and 
>>>> main sail. 
>>>> There is a mast for sale in Mass. for $500  and a mainsail somewhere else for 
>>>> $400. 
>>>> The mast, spreaders, furling tube  and boom are apparently complete except for 
>>>> the shrouds. 
>>>> I happen to have a spare set of shrouds from yet another Continual style mast I 
>>>> have. 
>>>> The Sail is 2009 vintage.  I assume it will cast a few hundred dollars in spare 
>>>> parts or part changes, like the pop top connector, electrical/lights connector 
>>>> changes, etc. 
>>>> Questions:
>>>> Are the shrouds the same for both Continental and IMF masts? Any other parts I 
>>>> should be aware of that might need replacing? Where can I find IMF sail rigging 
>>>> guide? 
>>>> Is there a vertical batten in all or just some of them?
>>>> Are they flat or round?
>>>> Does that matter?
>>>> Any issues with old sails and furling?
>>>> Thank you and  HAPPY NEW YEAR!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>>> <a href="http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list">ric at 
>>>> stottarchitecture.com</a> 
>>>> O -631-283-1777
>>>> C- 516-965-3164
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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