From prunicki at icloud.com  Thu May  2 10:37:05 2024
From: prunicki at icloud.com (Michael Pruchnicki)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 09:37:05 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Algae in cockpit
Message-ID: <337ABE87-1CAB-4397-8916-F2FA1BE55666@icloud.com>

Greetings

2000 R22 spends the summers on a freshwater lake in Iowa.  I?ve noticed algae growth under the bench seats the 2-3 summers I?ve owned the boat.  No doubt due to standing water, usually after a rain.  Cockpit drains appear to be working well.  I have an Torqeedo OB, which is lighter than an 6hp or more OB.  Other than putting some extra weight on the aft end to tilt the boat slightly more to allow drainage, any ideas?  I was thinking maybe bleach or vinegar spray after a rain. Don?t have any pix. Thanks in advance

Mike
Sent from my iPad

From prunicki at icloud.com  Thu May  2 10:37:05 2024
From: prunicki at icloud.com (Michael Pruchnicki)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 09:37:05 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Algae in cockpit
Message-ID: <337ABE87-1CAB-4397-8916-F2FA1BE55666@icloud.com>

Greetings

2000 R22 spends the summers on a freshwater lake in Iowa.  I?ve noticed algae growth under the bench seats the 2-3 summers I?ve owned the boat.  No doubt due to standing water, usually after a rain.  Cockpit drains appear to be working well.  I have an Torqeedo OB, which is lighter than an 6hp or more OB.  Other than putting some extra weight on the aft end to tilt the boat slightly more to allow drainage, any ideas?  I was thinking maybe bleach or vinegar spray after a rain. Don?t have any pix. Thanks in advance

Mike
Sent from my iPad

From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Thu May  2 13:26:24 2024
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 17:26:24 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Algae in cockpit
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Hi Mike,
Does the area under the cockpit seats drain completely?  If there is any standing water, you will certainly develop algae.

Do you have anything heavy up in the bow - big batteries, always full water tank, holding tank, anchors, extra gas tank ? ?  Think of the boat like a tetter totter.  If you move heavy gear from the bow to the stern, you will change the fore/aft trim and allow the cockpit to drain properly.

The boat is fastest with a slightly bow down trim.  Bow down trim maximizes the water line length and minimizes the drag from the aft section of the hull.  Also, the unloaded hull trims slightly bow down to allow for the additional weight of crew in the cockpit when sailing.  Is there anything heavy you could store in the lazarette compartment and then move to the V-berth when sailing?  Keeping the water tank and holding tank empty when not sailing will help.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium 
1978 Sanford, MI
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2024, at 10:37?AM, Michael Pruchnicki via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Greetings
> 
> 2000 R22 spends the summers on a freshwater lake in Iowa.  I?ve noticed algae growth under the bench seats the 2-3 summers I?ve owned the boat.  No doubt due to standing water, usually after a rain.  Cockpit drains appear to be working well.  I have an Torqeedo OB, which is lighter than an 6hp or more OB.  Other than putting some extra weight on the aft end to tilt the boat slightly more to allow drainage, any ideas?  I was thinking maybe bleach or vinegar spray after a rain. Don?t have any pix. Thanks in advance
> 
> Mike
> Sent from my iPad

From thyatt at mica.edu  Thu May  2 15:19:39 2024
From: thyatt at mica.edu (Tom Hyatt)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 15:19:39 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motors
Message-ID: <CAEhtY2LXnZyaY-b2fmuSXjGNgyJDYU0aEZ3Se54nTuHGtq1cUQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have been wondering how many Rhodes owners have an electric motor. If you
have one or had one, how pleased are (were) you with it.? What model/brand
did you have?

I have a 6 hp Tohatsu Sailpro that pushes my 78 Rhodes really well at
fairly low RPMs but the idea of not having to mess with that pull cord and
choke seems really appealing.

Any contributions would be most appreciated.

Tom Hyatt
S/V Eliza Jane, 78
Baltimore

From tedlesiecki at gmail.com  Thu May  2 15:43:10 2024
From: tedlesiecki at gmail.com (tedlesiecki at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 14:43:10 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motors
In-Reply-To: <CAEhtY2LXnZyaY-b2fmuSXjGNgyJDYU0aEZ3Se54nTuHGtq1cUQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Have Spirit 1.0 plus 1kw, 3hp. With remote throttle (no tiller). Hooked it up to the boats tiller steering system. Love it. The battery has 1hr charge at full throttle. If you back down to 25% you get over 3hrs (logical) but boat goes along okay at 25%. Light wind for sunset cruise, put up sails, kick on 25% and it feels like sailing because it?s silent. 

Ted

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2024, at 2:19?PM, Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I have been wondering how many Rhodes owners have an electric motor. If you
> have one or had one, how pleased are (were) you with it.? What model/brand
> did you have?
> 
> I have a 6 hp Tohatsu Sailpro that pushes my 78 Rhodes really well at
> fairly low RPMs but the idea of not having to mess with that pull cord and
> choke seems really appealing.
> 
> Any contributions would be most appreciated.
> 
> Tom Hyatt
> S/V Eliza Jane, 78
> Baltimore

From rweiss at siu.edu  Thu May  2 15:47:23 2024
From: rweiss at siu.edu (Weiss, Robert L)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 19:47:23 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motors
In-Reply-To: <CAEhtY2LXnZyaY-b2fmuSXjGNgyJDYU0aEZ3Se54nTuHGtq1cUQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I just got this Spirit 1.0 EVO by Epropulsion  a few weeks ago and have only had it out on the water 4 times. So far I'm very pleased.

I used hose clamps to attach the block and pin from my Mercury 8 hp outboard to the back of the handle and it now even works with the tiller connection that Stan built. I can't go as fast as I did with the outboard (6+ mph) but by myself I got up to 4.8 mph and with 2 other guys in the boat yesterday, I got 4.2 mph. At full throttle, it should run for 1 hour, but back off of that and you can run for up to 10 hours. I only sail on Kentucky Lake and only need to motor out of the marina and across the barge channel, so I don't fight currents or big waves. Love that it is almost silent and I no longer have to mess with gas and hope the motor starts.  The battery weighs less than 25 lbs and floats! I no longer need help putting the motor on my boat.

Bob
Beach Spring

[cid:d03d7d1a-f76d-497d-87c7-61163d82c1e0]

Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC
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I have been wondering how many Rhodes owners have an electric motor. If you
have one or had one, how pleased are (were) you with it.? What model/brand
did you have?

I have a 6 hp Tohatsu Sailpro that pushes my 78 Rhodes really well at
fairly low RPMs but the idea of not having to mess with that pull cord and
choke seems really appealing.

Any contributions would be most appreciated.

Tom Hyatt
S/V Eliza Jane, 78
Baltimore
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From shawn.sustain at gmail.com  Thu May  2 16:26:31 2024
From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 13:26:31 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motors
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I've had a Torqueedo three horsepower equivalent long shaft for almost 15
years to go in and out of a marina. Had to replace the battery after 10
years and the pin to hold the shaft out of the water broke. The replacement
pin also broke so I cobbled together a block to hold up the shaft. I would
never go back to a gasoline engine.

I think there are several threads in the list that discuss electric motors.


Cheers,
Shawn
S/V Sweet Baboo

On Thu, May 2, 2024, 12:19?PM Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I have been wondering how many Rhodes owners have an electric motor. If you
> have one or had one, how pleased are (were) you with it.? What model/brand
> did you have?
>
> I have a 6 hp Tohatsu Sailpro that pushes my 78 Rhodes really well at
> fairly low RPMs but the idea of not having to mess with that pull cord and
> choke seems really appealing.
>
> Any contributions would be most appreciated.
>
> Tom Hyatt
> S/V Eliza Jane, 78
> Baltimore
>

From lgioia at yahoo.com  Fri May  3 10:07:06 2024
From: lgioia at yahoo.com (Larry Gioia)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 10:07:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motors
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I?ve had the Spirit 1.0 Plus for 2 seasons now, works perfectly for both of my Rhodes, I take it in the car with me in a duffel bag to Lake George NY in the summer and back to Tampa in the winter. Battery separates - the battery & the motor are each 20-22 lbs or so, so much easier as my years advance. I need it to get out of the bay and back to the dock, and occasionally to come back 3 miles or so if the wind dies or has died down & it?s almost dinnertime. Rarely gets below 75% charge.  

So easy to use at a moment?s notice, just twist the throttle, like when needing to go directly upwind between 2 points entering a bay, or on the leeward side of a point or island when guests want to get a look at houses.  

I keep an extra battery on board so my wife won?t be nervous, but never need it. I use it on rowboats in both places too. Also keeps me from having to winterize and maintain 2 outboards.  I?m sure it?s not suitable for ocean use and many-day excursions, but it?s fine for what I do. 

Larry
?
R22 Language of Love 2014
Lake George, NY
?
R22 LOL II  1986
Keystone Lake, Odessa, FL

> On May 2, 2024, at 3:47?PM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I just got this Spirit 1.0 EVO by Epropulsion  a few weeks ago and have only had it out on the water 4 times. So far I'm very pleased.
> 
> I used hose clamps to attach the block and pin from my Mercury 8 hp outboard to the back of the handle and it now even works with the tiller connection that Stan built. I can't go as fast as I did with the outboard (6+ mph) but by myself I got up to 4.8 mph and with 2 other guys in the boat yesterday, I got 4.2 mph. At full throttle, it should run for 1 hour, but back off of that and you can run for up to 10 hours. I only sail on Kentucky Lake and only need to motor out of the marina and across the barge channel, so I don't fight currents or big waves. Love that it is almost silent and I no longer have to mess with gas and hope the motor starts.  The battery weighs less than 25 lbs and floats! I no longer need help putting the motor on my boat.
> 
> Bob
> Beach Spring
> 
> [cid:d03d7d1a-f76d-497d-87c7-61163d82c1e0]
> 
> Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:19 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motors
> 
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.
> 
> I have been wondering how many Rhodes owners have an electric motor. If you
> have one or had one, how pleased are (were) you with it.? What model/brand
> did you have?
> 
> I have a 6 hp Tohatsu Sailpro that pushes my 78 Rhodes really well at
> fairly low RPMs but the idea of not having to mess with that pull cord and
> choke seems really appealing.
> 
> Any contributions would be most appreciated.
> 
> Tom Hyatt
> S/V Eliza Jane, 78
> Baltimore
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From recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com  Fri May  3 16:25:23 2024
From: recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com (peter beckerman)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 20:25:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Drilling into Fiberglass
References: <1964582852.5625289.1714767923007.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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?Hi All,? ?I haven't gotten any real experience working with fiberglass and need to drill a hole into my cabin top.Is there anything special I should be aware of to avoid chips or cracks?? Any preferred type of drill bit (besides sharp)?? Better to run the bit fast or slow?
Thanks,Peter

From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Fri May  3 16:47:28 2024
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 20:47:28 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Drilling into Fiberglass
In-Reply-To: <1964582852.5625289.1714767923007@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1964582852.5625289.1714767923007.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Hi Peter,

Assuming you can get at the back side of the hole, the best practice is to drill a small pilot hole thru first.  Then, drill the final hole diameter, starting on the interior and drill about halfway thru.  Finally, finish the hole from the outside.  Use a sharp spiral bit and don?t use a wood boring spade bit.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium 
1978 Sanford, MI

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2024, at 4:25?PM, peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ? Hi All,   I haven't gotten any real experience working with fiberglass and need to drill a hole into my cabin top.Is there anything special I should be aware of to avoid chips or cracks?  Any preferred type of drill bit (besides sharp)?  Better to run the bit fast or slow?
> Thanks,Peter

From talbotpratt at gmail.com  Fri May  3 17:08:58 2024
From: talbotpratt at gmail.com (Talbot Pratt)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 17:08:58 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Can you list this for me for sale?
Message-ID: <CAFhmpdGkJuu-HgTExsXLBF1dvQP-UYUH4eCsYjNBTumHszWAFA@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/950826213109867/?mibextid=dXMIcH

Thanks
Talbot

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Fri May  3 17:17:12 2024
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 17:17:12 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Can you list this for me for sale?
In-Reply-To: <CAFhmpdGkJuu-HgTExsXLBF1dvQP-UYUH4eCsYjNBTumHszWAFA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <000a01da9d9f$446dac10$cd490430$@ebsmed.com>

You just did!

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY
I?d rather be sailing :~)

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Talbot Pratt
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 5:09 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/950826213109867/?mibextid=dXMIcH

Thanks
Talbot


From recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com  Fri May  3 17:37:13 2024
From: recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com (peter beckerman)
Date: Fri, 03 May 2024 17:37:13 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Drilling into Fiberglass
Message-ID: <E1s30af-002zPM-0W@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

Thanks Roger!

[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]


From sea20 at verizon.net  Fri May  3 17:59:11 2024
From: sea20 at verizon.net (sea20 at verizon.net)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 21:59:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bench drains
References: <1521746375.3725811.1714773551966.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1521746375.3725811.1714773551966@mail.yahoo.com>

Greetings all, another drilling question. Has anyone ever drill additional bench drain hole on the inside trough of the bench? I'm thinking a drain hole before the lazzerette would allow water to drain to the floor drain of the cockpit. Debris hopefully would continue to the stern where clogs seem to occur frequently. (I had some bad flooding thhis year.)Scott Andrews

From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Fri May  3 18:39:39 2024
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 22:39:39 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bench drains
In-Reply-To: <1521746375.3725811.1714773551966@mail.yahoo.com>
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Hi Scott,

I drilled a couple of extra drain holes in the troughs like you suggest.  When they are clear, the new holes do allow quite a bit of water to drop down to the cockpit sole.  Unfortunately, these new holes are also subject to clogging, at least as bad as the drains on the aft end of the cockpit.  In my experience, the only solution is eternal vigilance at keeping the drain troughs as clean as possible.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
1978  Sanford, MI

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Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 5:59 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bench drains

Greetings all, another drilling question. Has anyone ever drill additional bench drain hole on the inside trough of the bench? I'm thinking a drain hole before the lazzerette would allow water to drain to the floor drain of the cockpit. Debris hopefully would continue to the stern where clogs seem to occur frequently. (I had some bad flooding thhis year.)Scott Andrews

From gstewart.gm at gmail.com  Fri May  3 20:22:26 2024
From: gstewart.gm at gmail.com (Graham Stewart)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 20:22:26 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Drilling into Fiberglass
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I enlarged the existing holes. I think I used a step bit.

Graham Stewart
Agile 1976
gstewart.gm at gmail.com


On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 5:24 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> Assuming you can get at the back side of the hole, the best practice is to
> drill a small pilot hole thru first.  Then, drill the final hole diameter,
> starting on the interior and drill about halfway thru.  Finally, finish the
> hole from the outside.  Use a sharp spiral bit and don?t use a wood boring
> spade bit.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 1978 Sanford, MI
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 3, 2024, at 4:25?PM, peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > ? Hi All,   I haven't gotten any real experience working with fiberglass
> and need to drill a hole into my cabin top.Is there anything special I
> should be aware of to avoid chips or cracks?  Any preferred type of drill
> bit (besides sharp)?  Better to run the bit fast or slow?
> > Thanks,Peter
>

From gstewart.gm at gmail.com  Fri May  3 23:14:32 2024
From: gstewart.gm at gmail.com (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sat, 4 May 2024 03:14:32 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bench drains
In-Reply-To: <1521746375.3725811.1714773551966@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1521746375.3725811.1714773551966.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <PH7PR12MB81539E6F8416D9DED966C8C4F51E2@PH7PR12MB8153.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

My boat had drain holes near the front of the bench seat and near the lazarette.  I enlarged them. One thing to note is that water going through the aft hole can run along the underside of the seat and drip into the lazarette. A bit of sealant aft of the hole should break the surface tension so that water does not travel aft.



Graham Stewart
Rhodes 22
Agile, 1076
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Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 5:59 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bench drains

Greetings all, another drilling question. Has anyone ever drill additional bench drain hole on the inside trough of the bench? I'm thinking a drain hole before the lazzerette would allow water to drain to the floor drain of the cockpit. Debris hopefully would continue to the stern where clogs seem to occur frequently. (I had some bad flooding thhis year.)Scott Andrews

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Sat May  4 17:06:02 2024
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Sat, 04 May 2024 17:06:02 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pipe Insulation in the Mast
Message-ID: <E1s3Ma2-00GBZS-11@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

So, I ran my new 3-conductor wire up the mast, encased in foam pipe insulation, and this is my report on that process.

First, I want to say that when I pulled my old wires out of the mast I found that the zip-ties I used when I installed them to try to eliminate slapping were obviously too small and flimsy to do the job.  I took one look at them, shook my head, and said to myself ?what was I thinking??.  Based on this finding, and reports from other boat owners, I?m perfectly willing to believe that the zip-tie solution to the wire slapping problem can work if properly implemented.  But, by the time of this discovery I was already committed to the the pipe insulation approach.

To start at the beginning, when I arrived at the pipe insulation section of my local Home Depot, I  found that it comes in two sizes: 1/2? and 3/4?.  I chose 1/2?, which turned out to be correct.  It just fit into the channel in the IMF mast.  Four 3? sections come in a package, so 2 packages is about the perfect amount for the job.  I ended up using 12? of insulation above the spreaders, and about 11? 4? below.

After getting the mast set up on a couple of saw-horses I did some disassembling. I removed the top plate, and the assembly that houses the sheaves for the halyards.  I also removed the spreader bases, and the through-bolt that attaches them to the mast.  And I removed any other hardware that had screws or bolts that projected into the mast?s wire channel.  

Next, I laid out the wire along side the mast, and made marks on the wire to help in positioning the insulation. The main focus here was that I wanted to leave a gap in the insulation at the spreaders so that it wouldn?t be in the way when it came time to reinsert the through-bolt.

The installation approach was to insert at the bottom, and pull toward the top.  Sections of insulation would be zip-tied around the wire before insertion.  After a test run with one piece of insulation, it became clear that the biggest challenge was going to be keeping the insulation in a fixed position on the wire.  

The technique that ended up meeting the challenge had multiple steps:
  
    1) select a spot on the wire about 6? below where the top end of the insulation section will be
    2) take 6 - 8 wraps of electrical tape around the wire at this point, creating a ?bump?
    3) place a small zip-tie around the wire _above_ the electrical tape; pull tight, clip off excess
        (this creates another ?bump?)
    4) position insulation section around wire
    5) place a zip-tie around the insulation so that it is just  _above_ the inner zip-tie and tape
    6) place a second outer zip-tie 4-6? from the bottom of the section of insulation
    7) pull both outer zip-ties as tight as you can (use pliers for a better grip); trim off excess
    8) from the top of the mast, pull 3? of wire and insulation into the mast
    9) repeat

Note that ??top? and ?above? means closer to the top of the mast.

Once I had the technique down, things went pretty quickly.  Now I just have to put the mast back together.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)


[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]


From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Sat May  4 19:05:48 2024
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Sat, 4 May 2024 19:05:48 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bench drains
In-Reply-To: <1521746375.3725811.1714773551966@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1521746375.3725811.1714773551966.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1521746375.3725811.1714773551966@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAB-twMMoSgOMXz9rfkX1GOnJL4bqrcy1R=BKOyN1ZNnLtg1qxQ@mail.gmail.com>

The ULTIMATE solution...for me anyway, would be to have the lip of the
lazarette extend an inch or two higher than the seat gutter lips. Then it
wouldn't really matter if the seat drains clogged, and the laz and bilge
would be drier.
I only got as far as increasing the size of the drain tubes and fittings.
Oh well, maybe that will be a project for retirement.

Todd T



On Fri, May 3, 2024, 5:59 PM sea20--- via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Greetings all, another drilling question. Has anyone ever drill additional
> bench drain hole on the inside trough of the bench? I'm thinking a drain
> hole before the lazzerette would allow water to drain to the floor drain of
> the cockpit. Debris hopefully would continue to the stern where clogs seem
> to occur frequently. (I had some bad flooding thhis year.)Scott Andrews
>

From chitakcheung at gmail.com  Sun May  5 07:48:20 2024
From: chitakcheung at gmail.com (Patrick Cheung)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2024 07:48:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bench drains
In-Reply-To: <CAB-twMMoSgOMXz9rfkX1GOnJL4bqrcy1R=BKOyN1ZNnLtg1qxQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I applied 1" wide closed cell foam tape to the underside of the lazarette
hatch at the hatch and lip contact point. I also found a pin size
through-hole at the gutter behind the hatch cover, I put a tape over it.
Between these two actions, I have significantly less rain water in
lazarette.

patrick


On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 7:06?PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:

> The ULTIMATE solution...for me anyway, would be to have the lip of the
> lazarette extend an inch or two higher than the seat gutter lips. Then it
> wouldn't really matter if the seat drains clogged, and the laz and bilge
> would be drier.
> I only got as far as increasing the size of the drain tubes and fittings.
> Oh well, maybe that will be a project for retirement.
>
> Todd T
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2024, 5:59 PM sea20--- via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > Greetings all, another drilling question. Has anyone ever drill
> additional
> > bench drain hole on the inside trough of the bench? I'm thinking a drain
> > hole before the lazzerette would allow water to drain to the floor drain
> of
> > the cockpit. Debris hopefully would continue to the stern where clogs
> seem
> > to occur frequently. (I had some bad flooding thhis year.)Scott Andrews
> >
>

From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Sun May  5 08:52:11 2024
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2024 08:52:11 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motors
In-Reply-To: <CAMzGxuOi7XNL0e8JKtshk_4pV9+Fyr2mp75P0tr8C_Ma2Q_=ew@mail.gmail.com>
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We also have a Torqeedo 3 hp equivalent, long shaft, and like it very much.  It?s German-made and seems to be of good build quality.  I take the battery home with me and charge it as needed before heading to the marina.  

Frank Goldsmith
S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
Fairview, NC
Lake Keowee, SC


> On May 2, 2024, at 4:26?PM, Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I've had a Torqueedo three horsepower equivalent long shaft for almost 15
> years to go in and out of a marina. Had to replace the battery after 10
> years and the pin to hold the shaft out of the water broke. The replacement
> pin also broke so I cobbled together a block to hold up the shaft. I would
> never go back to a gasoline engine.
> 
> I think there are several threads in the list that discuss electric motors.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Shawn
> S/V Sweet Baboo
> 
> On Thu, May 2, 2024, 12:19?PM Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
>> I have been wondering how many Rhodes owners have an electric motor. If you
>> have one or had one, how pleased are (were) you with it.? What model/brand
>> did you have?
>> 
>> I have a 6 hp Tohatsu Sailpro that pushes my 78 Rhodes really well at
>> fairly low RPMs but the idea of not having to mess with that pull cord and
>> choke seems really appealing.
>> 
>> Any contributions would be most appreciated.
>> 
>> Tom Hyatt
>> S/V Eliza Jane, 78
>> Baltimore
>> 


From jmsnadorjr at gmail.com  Sun May  5 09:46:47 2024
From: jmsnadorjr at gmail.com (joseph nador)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2024 09:46:47 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motors
In-Reply-To: <10F2A3FD-4FCF-48A6-8B3C-9D434CFCBF43@gmail.com>
References: <CAEhtY2LXnZyaY-b2fmuSXjGNgyJDYU0aEZ3Se54nTuHGtq1cUQ@mail.gmail.com>
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How do they do in the chop, white caps and current when you are in the bay
or coastal?

Joe Nador
S/V Respite  (Rhodes 22 1989)
Brightweaters , NY

On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 8:52?AM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> We also have a Torqeedo 3 hp equivalent, long shaft, and like it very
> much.  It?s German-made and seems to be of good build quality.  I take the
> battery home with me and charge it as needed before heading to the marina.
>
> Frank Goldsmith
> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
> Fairview, NC
> Lake Keowee, SC
>
>
> > On May 2, 2024, at 4:26?PM, Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I've had a Torqueedo three horsepower equivalent long shaft for almost 15
> > years to go in and out of a marina. Had to replace the battery after 10
> > years and the pin to hold the shaft out of the water broke. The
> replacement
> > pin also broke so I cobbled together a block to hold up the shaft. I
> would
> > never go back to a gasoline engine.
> >
> > I think there are several threads in the list that discuss electric
> motors.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Shawn
> > S/V Sweet Baboo
> >
> > On Thu, May 2, 2024, 12:19?PM Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I have been wondering how many Rhodes owners have an electric motor. If
> you
> >> have one or had one, how pleased are (were) you with it.? What
> model/brand
> >> did you have?
> >>
> >> I have a 6 hp Tohatsu Sailpro that pushes my 78 Rhodes really well at
> >> fairly low RPMs but the idea of not having to mess with that pull cord
> and
> >> choke seems really appealing.
> >>
> >> Any contributions would be most appreciated.
> >>
> >> Tom Hyatt
> >> S/V Eliza Jane, 78
> >> Baltimore
> >>
>
>

From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Sun May  5 09:48:10 2024
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2024 09:48:10 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motors
In-Reply-To: <CABkND0A=X2Yz=QkuHArKz6Ke8WH-4vsZ+L1rVNqPwjJxShL93A@mail.gmail.com>
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That hasn?t been an issue for me in the inland mountain lake where I sail; can?t answer about coastal waters.  

Frank

> On May 5, 2024, at 9:46?AM, joseph nador <jmsnadorjr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> How do they do in the chop, white caps and current when you are in the bay
> or coastal?
> 
> Joe Nador
> S/V Respite  (Rhodes 22 1989)
> Brightweaters , NY
> 
> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 8:52?AM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> We also have a Torqeedo 3 hp equivalent, long shaft, and like it very
>> much.  It?s German-made and seems to be of good build quality.  I take the
>> battery home with me and charge it as needed before heading to the marina.
>> 
>> Frank Goldsmith
>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
>> Fairview, NC
>> Lake Keowee, SC
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2024, at 4:26?PM, Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've had a Torqueedo three horsepower equivalent long shaft for almost 15
>>> years to go in and out of a marina. Had to replace the battery after 10
>>> years and the pin to hold the shaft out of the water broke. The
>> replacement
>>> pin also broke so I cobbled together a block to hold up the shaft. I
>> would
>>> never go back to a gasoline engine.
>>> 
>>> I think there are several threads in the list that discuss electric
>> motors.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Shawn
>>> S/V Sweet Baboo
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 2, 2024, 12:19?PM Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list <
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have been wondering how many Rhodes owners have an electric motor. If
>> you
>>>> have one or had one, how pleased are (were) you with it.? What
>> model/brand
>>>> did you have?
>>>> 
>>>> I have a 6 hp Tohatsu Sailpro that pushes my 78 Rhodes really well at
>>>> fairly low RPMs but the idea of not having to mess with that pull cord
>> and
>>>> choke seems really appealing.
>>>> 
>>>> Any contributions would be most appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Tom Hyatt
>>>> S/V Eliza Jane, 78
>>>> Baltimore
>>>> 
>> 
>> 


From markwynn at verizon.net  Sun May  5 10:08:45 2024
From: markwynn at verizon.net (Mark Wynn)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2024 14:08:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motors
In-Reply-To: <E712C193-583B-47D2-9308-1872C4319E7C@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1978480306.3888493.1714918125023@mail.yahoo.com>

 I had a Torqeedo for one day on the open Magothy River, off the Chesapeake, and found it to be ?underpowered with inadequate range for my area. I traded for a 6 hp outboard, which I don't like either because of difficulty starting. So make your own trade offs. Good luck.?
Mark WynnS/V Windchimes

    On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 09:48:25 AM EDT, Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com> wrote:   

 That hasn?t been an issue for me in the inland mountain lake where I sail; can?t answer about coastal waters.? 

Frank

> On May 5, 2024, at 9:46?AM, joseph nador <jmsnadorjr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> How do they do in the chop, white caps and current when you are in the bay
> or coastal?
> 
> Joe Nador
> S/V Respite? (Rhodes 22 1989)
> Brightweaters , NY
> 
> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 8:52?AM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> We also have a Torqeedo 3 hp equivalent, long shaft, and like it very
>> much.? It?s German-made and seems to be of good build quality.? I take the
>> battery home with me and charge it as needed before heading to the marina.
>> 
>> Frank Goldsmith
>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
>> Fairview, NC
>> Lake Keowee, SC
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2024, at 4:26?PM, Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've had a Torqueedo three horsepower equivalent long shaft for almost 15
>>> years to go in and out of a marina. Had to replace the battery after 10
>>> years and the pin to hold the shaft out of the water broke. The
>> replacement
>>> pin also broke so I cobbled together a block to hold up the shaft. I
>> would
>>> never go back to a gasoline engine.
>>> 
>>> I think there are several threads in the list that discuss electric
>> motors.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Shawn
>>> S/V Sweet Baboo
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 2, 2024, 12:19?PM Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list <
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have been wondering how many Rhodes owners have an electric motor. If
>> you
>>>> have one or had one, how pleased are (were) you with it.? What
>> model/brand
>>>> did you have?
>>>> 
>>>> I have a 6 hp Tohatsu Sailpro that pushes my 78 Rhodes really well at
>>>> fairly low RPMs but the idea of not having to mess with that pull cord
>> and
>>>> choke seems really appealing.
>>>> 
>>>> Any contributions would be most appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Tom Hyatt
>>>> S/V Eliza Jane, 78
>>>> Baltimore
>>>> 
>> 
>> 

  

From davidmberg at mac.com  Sun May  5 14:21:38 2024
From: davidmberg at mac.com (DAVID BERG)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2024 13:21:38 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wiring documentation - adding combination deck and
	steaming light
In-Reply-To: <1978480306.3888493.1714918125023@mail.yahoo.com>
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I?m about to attempt to service and upgrade the masthead light situation on my 1996/200? Rhodes 22. I haven?t gone into full troubleshooting mode, but Initial forrays into the circuit panel left me scratching my head a bit. This was a couple of years ago, so I don?t remember exactly what I had found.

I have found some helpful diagrams in the archive, particularly those drawn by Cris Cowie, which have shed light on wiring issues.

I?m contemplating adding a combination steaming/deck light, so I can probably relegate the masthead light to anchor-light duty only. I believe it was/is originally intended to serve as both steaming and anchor light. I?m wondering if anyone else has any wiring diagrams or information to share regarding wiring documentation on the 1990s vintage Rhodes.

Thanks,
David Berg
Minneapolis, MN
s/v Blue Loon (1996/200?)

PS: Thanks, Peter, for the info on the wire slapping fix. I think I may still use zip ties, but your knowledge is useful, as always.

From dean at deanpatent.com  Sun May  5 21:19:56 2024
From: dean at deanpatent.com (dean)
Date: Sun, 05 May 2024 21:19:56 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motors
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Was this a Torqeedo 3 hp??

Many thanks, Dean


On 2024-05-05 10:08, Mark Wynn via Rhodes22-list wrote:
> I had a Torqeedo for one day on the open Magothy River, off the 
> Chesapeake, and found it to be ?underpowered with inadequate range for 
> my area. I traded for a 6 hp outboard, which I don't like either 
> because of difficulty starting. So make your own trade offs. Good 
> luck.?
> Mark WynnS/V Windchimes
> 
>     On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 09:48:25 AM EDT, Frank Goldsmith 
> <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  That hasn?t been an issue for me in the inland mountain lake where I 
> sail; can?t answer about coastal waters.?
> 
> Frank
> 
>> On May 5, 2024, at 9:46?AM, joseph nador <jmsnadorjr at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> How do they do in the chop, white caps and current when you are in the 
>> bay
>> or coastal?
>> 
>> Joe Nador
>> S/V Respite? (Rhodes 22 1989)
>> Brightweaters , NY
>> 
>> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 8:52?AM Frank Goldsmith 
>> <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> We also have a Torqeedo 3 hp equivalent, long shaft, and like it very
>>> much.? It?s German-made and seems to be of good build quality.? I 
>>> take the
>>> battery home with me and charge it as needed before heading to the 
>>> marina.
>>> 
>>> Frank Goldsmith
>>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
>>> Fairview, NC
>>> Lake Keowee, SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2024, at 4:26?PM, Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've had a Torqueedo three horsepower equivalent long shaft for 
>>>> almost 15
>>>> years to go in and out of a marina. Had to replace the battery after 
>>>> 10
>>>> years and the pin to hold the shaft out of the water broke. The
>>> replacement
>>>> pin also broke so I cobbled together a block to hold up the shaft. I
>>> would
>>>> never go back to a gasoline engine.
>>>> 
>>>> I think there are several threads in the list that discuss electric
>>> motors.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Shawn
>>>> S/V Sweet Baboo
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, May 2, 2024, 12:19?PM Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list <
>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I have been wondering how many Rhodes owners have an electric 
>>>>> motor. If
>>> you
>>>>> have one or had one, how pleased are (were) you with it.? What
>>> model/brand
>>>>> did you have?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a 6 hp Tohatsu Sailpro that pushes my 78 Rhodes really well 
>>>>> at
>>>>> fairly low RPMs but the idea of not having to mess with that pull 
>>>>> cord
>>> and
>>>>> choke seems really appealing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any contributions would be most appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tom Hyatt
>>>>> S/V Eliza Jane, 78
>>>>> Baltimore
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 

From rweiss at siu.edu  Sun May  5 21:38:32 2024
From: rweiss at siu.edu (Weiss, Robert L)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 01:38:32 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motors
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This is an Epropulsion Spirit 1.0 EVO. A 3 hp equivalent.

Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC

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Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2024 8:19:56 PM
To: Mark Wynn <markwynn at verizon.net>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motors

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Was this a Torqeedo 3 hp??

Many thanks, Dean


On 2024-05-05 10:08, Mark Wynn via Rhodes22-list wrote:
> I had a Torqeedo for one day on the open Magothy River, off the
> Chesapeake, and found it to be  underpowered with inadequate range for
> my area. I traded for a 6 hp outboard, which I don't like either
> because of difficulty starting. So make your own trade offs. Good
> luck.
> Mark WynnS/V Windchimes
>
>     On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 09:48:25 AM EDT, Frank Goldsmith
> <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  That hasn?t been an issue for me in the inland mountain lake where I
> sail; can?t answer about coastal waters.
>
> Frank
>
>> On May 5, 2024, at 9:46?AM, joseph nador <jmsnadorjr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> How do they do in the chop, white caps and current when you are in the
>> bay
>> or coastal?
>>
>> Joe Nador
>> S/V Respite  (Rhodes 22 1989)
>> Brightweaters , NY
>>
>> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 8:52?AM Frank Goldsmith
>> <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We also have a Torqeedo 3 hp equivalent, long shaft, and like it very
>>> much.  It?s German-made and seems to be of good build quality.  I
>>> take the
>>> battery home with me and charge it as needed before heading to the
>>> marina.
>>>
>>> Frank Goldsmith
>>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
>>> Fairview, NC
>>> Lake Keowee, SC
>>>
>>>
>>>> On May 2, 2024, at 4:26?PM, Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've had a Torqueedo three horsepower equivalent long shaft for
>>>> almost 15
>>>> years to go in and out of a marina. Had to replace the battery after
>>>> 10
>>>> years and the pin to hold the shaft out of the water broke. The
>>> replacement
>>>> pin also broke so I cobbled together a block to hold up the shaft. I
>>> would
>>>> never go back to a gasoline engine.
>>>>
>>>> I think there are several threads in the list that discuss electric
>>> motors.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Shawn
>>>> S/V Sweet Baboo
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 2, 2024, 12:19?PM Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list <
>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have been wondering how many Rhodes owners have an electric
>>>>> motor. If
>>> you
>>>>> have one or had one, how pleased are (were) you with it.? What
>>> model/brand
>>>>> did you have?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a 6 hp Tohatsu Sailpro that pushes my 78 Rhodes really well
>>>>> at
>>>>> fairly low RPMs but the idea of not having to mess with that pull
>>>>> cord
>>> and
>>>>> choke seems really appealing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any contributions would be most appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom Hyatt
>>>>> S/V Eliza Jane, 78
>>>>> Baltimore
>>>>>
>>>
>>>

From recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com  Wed May  8 09:05:03 2024
From: recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com (peter beckerman)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 13:05:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tabernacle repair
References: <1263205466.221820.1715173503007.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1263205466.221820.1715173503007@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi All,? ?Last year when raising the mast for the 1st time,? I had a little incident that resulted in pulling one of the tabernacle screws off the cabin top.? I'm planning on drilling out the screw hole and epoxying a hardwood plug in the cabin top and screwing the tabernacle into that so that the screw will pull out if I or some future owner ever makes a similar mistake.? My question for you all is:? should I caulk the screw holes like I'm inclined to do, and if so is silicone a good sealant, or would you recommend an adhesive sealant like 3m 4200?? Bear in mind that I want the tabernacle to pull off the cabin top in the event of a mishap.
Thanks as always,
Peter


From gstewart.gm at gmail.com  Wed May  8 10:52:09 2024
From: gstewart.gm at gmail.com (Graham Stewart)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 14:52:09 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tabernacle repair
In-Reply-To: <1263205466.221820.1715173503007@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1263205466.221820.1715173503007.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1263205466.221820.1715173503007@mail.yahoo.com>
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Generally speaking, except for some plastics around ports, you should always avoid using silicone on boats. It is virtually impossible to remove silicone residue and nothing will stick to that residue - including silicone. 4200 is acceptable but don't use 5200 - it is permanent.

Graham Stewart
Rhodes 22
Agile, 1076
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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 9:05 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tabernacle repair

Hi All,   Last year when raising the mast for the 1st time,  I had a little incident that resulted in pulling one of the tabernacle screws off the cabin top.  I'm planning on drilling out the screw hole and epoxying a hardwood plug in the cabin top and screwing the tabernacle into that so that the screw will pull out if I or some future owner ever makes a similar mistake.  My question for you all is:  should I caulk the screw holes like I'm inclined to do, and if so is silicone a good sealant, or would you recommend an adhesive sealant like 3m 4200?  Bear in mind that I want the tabernacle to pull off the cabin top in the event of a mishap.
Thanks as always,
Peter


From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Wed May  8 12:09:28 2024
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Wed, 08 May 2024 12:09:28 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tabernacle repair
Message-ID: <E1s4jrE-002I8Q-2U@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

I would recommend butyl tape as a sealant with very little adhesiveness.  This is my first choice for most applications where I need a sealant on the boat.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)


[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]

> On 2024-05-08, at 09:05:03 EDT, peter beckerman wrote:
>
> Hi All, Last year when raising the mast for the 1st time, I 
> had a little incident that resulted in pulling one of the tabernacle screws off 
> the cabin top.&nbsp; I'm planning on drilling out the screw hole and epoxying a 
> hardwood plug in the cabin top and screwing the tabernacle into that so that the 
> screw will pull out if I or some future owner ever makes a similar 
> mistake. My question for you all is:&nbsp; should I caulk the screw holes 
> like I'm inclined to do, and if so is silicone a good sealant, or would you 
> recommend an adhesive sealant like 3m 4200? Bear in mind that I want the 
> tabernacle to pull off the cabin top in the event of a mishap. 
> Thanks as always,
> Peter
> 
> 



From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Thu May  9 16:58:09 2024
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Thu, 09 May 2024 16:58:09 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wiring documentation - adding combination deck
	and steaming light
Message-ID: <E1s5Aq9-003MCg-15@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

David,

Sorry to be slow to respond to this.  I wasn?t sure that I had anything useful to say, but then a thought occurred to me.

If your boat is wired like mine, there is a 2-conductor wire that runs from the breaker panel down along the hull behind where the ice-box was (or maybe still is), then forward under the cabinet base, then under the head floor, and finally up a wire chase along side the compression post to a through-deck fitting at the base of the mast.  

Your plan calls for 4 conductors going up the mast (3 lights with a common ground).  Getting 2 more conductors from the base of the mast all the way back to the breaker panel would be a PITA.  You?ll also need 3 switches to control the three lights.  You?re already using one in the breaker panel (I?ll assume this is labeled ?Anchor?), but you probably don?t have two unused switches available there.

My suggestion is to re-label the ?Anchor? breaker panel switch as ?Mast Lights?.  Install 3 switches somewhere near the top of the compression post, and label these ?Anchor?, ?Steaming?, and ?Deck?.  Use the existing wire from the breaker panel as a common power source and common ground for these 3 circuits. 

One other thing I can say from recent personal experience is that making the wiring connections to the through-deck fitting was also a PITA.  I was using three 18 AWG wires. Connecting 4 wires will be even more challenging.

Best of luck. Let us know how the project unfolds, even if you don?t follow any of my suggestions. :^)

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)



[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]

> On 2024-05-05, at 14:21:38 EDT, DAVID BERG wrote:
>
> I?m about to attempt to service and upgrade the masthead light situation on my 
> 1996/200? Rhodes 22. I haven?t gone into full troubleshooting mode, but Initial 
> forrays into the circuit panel left me scratching my head a bit. This was a 
> couple of years ago, so I don?t remember exactly what I had found. 
> 
> I have found some helpful diagrams in the archive, particularly those drawn by 
> Cris Cowie, which have shed light on wiring issues. 
> 
> I?m contemplating adding a combination steaming/deck light, so I can probably 
> relegate the masthead light to anchor-light duty only. I believe it was/is 
> originally intended to serve as both steaming and anchor light. I?m wondering if 
> anyone else has any wiring diagrams or information to share regarding wiring 
> documentation on the 1990s vintage Rhodes. 
> 
> Thanks,
> David Berg
> Minneapolis, MN
> s/v Blue Loon (1996/200?)
> 
> PS: Thanks, Peter, for the info on the wire slapping fix. I think I may still 
> use zip ties, but your knowledge is useful, as always. 
> 



From recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com  Fri May 10 15:54:23 2024
From: recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com (peter beckerman)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2024 15:54:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wiring documentation - adding combination deck
	and steaming light
Message-ID: <E1s5WJz-00GdmG-0X@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but l recall reading somewhere about wiring LED steaming and anchor lights with the polarity reversed from each other and then swapping hot and cold leads to turn one or the other on thus avoiding a new cabin top connector or much new wiring.  Has anyone done this?  Sounds like it should work, can anyone confirm?  Anyone see a down side?

Peter

[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]


From chitakcheung at gmail.com  Fri May 10 17:11:27 2024
From: chitakcheung at gmail.com (Patrick Cheung)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2024 17:11:27 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wiring documentation - adding combination deck
	and steaming light
In-Reply-To: <E1s5WJz-00GdmG-0X@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
References: <E1s5WJz-00GdmG-0X@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
Message-ID: <9FDF1E76-5BB6-40D4-9C30-803F6E40D2DB@gmail.com>

I did that, you will need a DPDT switch. But this gentleman need deck light, so two conductor is not enough.

Patrick




> On May 10, 2024, at 3:54?PM, peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I don't mean to hijack this thread, but l recall reading somewhere about wiring LED steaming and anchor lights with the polarity reversed from each other and then swapping hot and cold leads to turn one or the other on thus avoiding a new cabin top connector or much new wiring.  Has anyone done this?  Sounds like it should work, can anyone confirm?  Anyone see a down side?
> 
> Peter
> 
> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
> 

From recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com  Sun May 12 22:22:55 2024
From: recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com (peter beckerman)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 02:22:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] General Boats jib rollerfurler
References: <365678217.1414827.1715566975361.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <365678217.1414827.1715566975361@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi All,? ? At the end of last season I had a somewhat chaotic time getting my boat out of the lake and into storage for the winter.? Several sailing friends helped me out, none of us with any experience with a Rhodes 22.? One of the tasks that I needed to complete was removing the sails from the furlers.? I concentrated on the mainsail, while others removed the Genoa.? In preparation for putting the boat in this year I spent some time the other morning putting the sails back on the furlers.? I understood the mounting system to involve sliding the furler tube into the pocket on the luff of the sail until the grommets line up to screw holes at the head and foot.? Screws are run through the grommet and tightened to the furling tube and Bob's your Uncle.This is exactly how my mainsail installed, but when I got to the Genoa, there was only a screw at the head of the sail.? I could not find one (or evidence of one) at the foot.? Is this correct?? Am I missing something?? Is there a system for keeping the luff taught?? Any insights will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,? ?Peter

From cjlowe at sssnet.com  Mon May 13 01:15:05 2024
From: cjlowe at sssnet.com (cjlowe at sssnet.com)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 01:15:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] General Boats jib rollerfurler
In-Reply-To: <365678217.1414827.1715566975361@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <365678217.1414827.1715566975361.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <49523.24.140.113.219.1715577305.squirrel@quickpop.sssnet.com>


Peter,

  On my '86, I have a line from the bottom grommet of the sail to the disc
at the bottom of the furling tube. The line goes thru a hole in the disc
near the furling tube. Pull the line tight and tie a knot underneath the
disc so the line can't get back thru. I like to get that line as tight
as I can.

  Jerry Lowe. S/V Country Rhodes '86




Hi All,?? ?? At the end of last season I had a somewhat chaotic time
> getting my boat out of the lake and into storage for the winter.?? Several
> sailing friends helped me out, none of us with any experience with a
> Rhodes 22.?? One of the tasks that I needed to complete was removing the
> sails from the furlers.?? I concentrated on the mainsail, while others
> removed the Genoa.?? In preparation for putting the boat in this year I
> spent some time the other morning putting the sails back on the furlers.??
> I understood the mounting system to involve sliding the furler tube into
> the pocket on the luff of the sail until the grommets line up to screw
> holes at the head and foot.?? Screws are run through the grommet and
> tightened to the furling tube and Bob's your Uncle.This is exactly how my
> mainsail installed, but when I got to the Genoa, there was only a screw at
> the head of the sail.?? I could not find one (or evidence of one) at the
> foot.?? Is this correct??? Am I missing something??? Is there a system for
> keeping the luff taught??? Any insights will be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,?? ??Peter
>



From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Mon May 13 07:37:03 2024
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 11:37:03 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] General Boats jib rollerfurler
In-Reply-To: <365678217.1414827.1715566975361@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <365678217.1414827.1715566975361.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <365678217.1414827.1715566975361@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR10MB4288B4D4EC6012C44058AB7D80E22@MN2PR10MB4288.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>

Peter,

It's been a long time since I upgraded the genoa roller furler on my boat to a Harken Unit 0.  But, as I recall, the OEM roller furler had an extra hole in the furling drum.  The line for tensioning the genoa luff was fed thru this hole and a stopper knot was tied on the bottom of the drum.  The rest of the line was fed thru a grommet on the tack of the genoa.  The genoa luff was tensioned by tying a power cinch hitch.  Normally, the luff tensioning line is left tied off to the roller furling drum when the sail is removed.  However, your inexperienced "helpers" may not have known this and removed it.  As I recall, the line was 1/4" OD double braid, about 2' long.

By the way, who is my "uncle Bob"?

Roger Pihlaja
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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2024 10:22 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] General Boats jib rollerfurler

Hi All,    At the end of last season I had a somewhat chaotic time getting my boat out of the lake and into storage for the winter.  Several sailing friends helped me out, none of us with any experience with a Rhodes 22.  One of the tasks that I needed to complete was removing the sails from the furlers.  I concentrated on the mainsail, while others removed the Genoa.  In preparation for putting the boat in this year I spent some time the other morning putting the sails back on the furlers.  I understood the mounting system to involve sliding the furler tube into the pocket on the luff of the sail until the grommets line up to screw holes at the head and foot.  Screws are run through the grommet and tightened to the furling tube and Bob's your Uncle.This is exactly how my mainsail installed, but when I got to the Genoa, there was only a screw at the head of the sail.  I could not find one (or evidence of one) at the foot.  Is this correct?  Am I missing something?  Is there a system for keeping the luff taught?  Any insights will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,   Peter

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Mon May 13 07:54:19 2024
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 07:54:19 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob's Your Uncle
Message-ID: <E1s6UG3-0026t3-1i@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

"Bob's your uncle" is a phrase commonly used in the United Kingdom and Commonwealth countries that means "and there it is", or "and there you have it", ...


[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]

> On 2024-05-13, at 07:37:03 EDT, ROGER PIHLAJA wrote:
>
> ...
> By the way, who is my "uncle Bob"?
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> 



From recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com  Mon May 13 08:35:01 2024
From: recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com (peter beckerman)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 12:35:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] General Boats jib rollerfurler
References: <664738680.1499743.1715603701688.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <664738680.1499743.1715603701688@mail.yahoo.com>

?Thanks All,? ? Last year was my first with the boat, so lot's of learning.??? ? I did run a line from the "tack" grommet through the hole in the furling disk "till I figure out how it's supposed to work". I guess I spent all of last season sailing with nothing holding the luff taught because there certainly wasn't a line there when I got the boat.??
The adventure continues......
Peter

From mitchpadl at gmail.com  Mon May 13 09:32:24 2024
From: mitchpadl at gmail.com (Mitch Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 09:32:24 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] General Boats jib rollerfurler
In-Reply-To: <664738680.1499743.1715603701688@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <664738680.1499743.1715603701688@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C2F49B2D-0B3D-421E-B41A-4C3ABF7E4CC5@gmail.com>

I think this is what you are talking about. This is a 1990.
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> On May 13, 2024, at 8:35 AM, peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ? Thanks All,    Last year was my first with the boat, so lot's of learning.      I did run a line from the "tack" grommet through the hole in the furling disk "till I figure out how it's supposed to work". I guess I spent all of last season sailing with nothing holding the luff taught because there certainly wasn't a line there when I got the boat.  
> The adventure continues......
> Peter

From tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com  Mon May 13 12:44:36 2024
From: tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com (Tom Van Heule)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 11:44:36 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Custom R22 lift for sale
Message-ID: <CAEqJHY4jQqkJaCw4kecogQy4YR=f05zaBoztzpAioQtYCDxEyQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone! Hope we're all well.

As we since parted with our beloved Octopian and the new owners did not
want, I have a lift with no boat.

Everything has been stored inside my enclosed trailer since pickup.
All the wood is fresh, the carpets are clean, the aluminum is straight.
There are two spots that need welding during assembly (else transport is
unfeasible).

See photos, make offer. Located in Waukesha WI.  Else I will scrap together
the frame of a small shed, lol. However as this is custom made for the
rarest best boat, I want to offer it here.  I also have all the hardware
and brackets too.

Best,
Tom
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From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Mon May 13 23:01:14 2024
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 23:01:14 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Quick release levers for shrouds?
Message-ID: <D55C679D-5C4A-4B9A-B528-52D0489980CE@gmail.com>

?I am contemplating installing quick release levers for some of my shrouds to simplify mast raising/lowering and reduce the need to retune the rig every time. 

Has anyone done this and do you have specifics about what was required?

Thanks,

Michael McKay
s/v Liber, 2006/2018
Woodstock, GA


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From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Tue May 14 08:26:43 2024
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 12:26:43 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Custom R22 lift for sale
In-Reply-To: <CAEqJHY4jQqkJaCw4kecogQy4YR=f05zaBoztzpAioQtYCDxEyQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Tom,

I have several questions:


  1.
The welding you refer to is on aluminum tubing?  Have these spots been previously welded?  If they've been previously welded, can you supply a photo of the previously welded spots?
  2.
Are the legs adjustable for water depth & how deep water can it handle?
  3.
None of the pictures illustrate the foot pads.  What style are they; i.e. screw auger, mud pad, etc?
  4.
Manual or electric hoist?  If electric, what voltage and current circuit is required?
  5.
In the pictures, the hoist is on the port side, can it be switched to the starboard side?
  6.
Approximately, what does the lift weigh fully assembled?
  7.
Who built it originally, just in case I would need to order longer legs &/or different style foot pads?
  8.
Disassembled, what are the dimensions of the longest component?
  9.
How much are you asking for it?

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
1978  Sanford, MI

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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 12:44 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Custom R22 lift for sale

Hello everyone! Hope we're all well.

As we since parted with our beloved Octopian and the new owners did not
want, I have a lift with no boat.

Everything has been stored inside my enclosed trailer since pickup.
All the wood is fresh, the carpets are clean, the aluminum is straight.
There are two spots that need welding during assembly (else transport is
unfeasible).

See photos, make offer. Located in Waukesha WI.  Else I will scrap together
the frame of a small shed, lol. However as this is custom made for the
rarest best boat, I want to offer it here.  I also have all the hardware
and brackets too.

Best,
Tom
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From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Sat May 18 12:26:53 2024
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 12:26:53 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Quick release levers for shrouds?
Message-ID: <01cf01daa940$32088070$96198150$@gmail.com>

I'm resending this because I didn't see it appear in my Rhodes 22 email inbox.  Apologies if it's a duplicate for you.
---


?I am contemplating installing quick release levers for some of my shrouds to simplify mast raising/lowering and reduce the need to retune the rig every time. 

Has anyone done this and do you have specifics about what was required?

Thanks,

Michael McKay
s/v Liber, 2006/2018
Woodstock, GA


Sent from my iPhone


From tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com  Sat May 18 17:43:31 2024
From: tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com (Tom Van Heule)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 16:43:31 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Custom R22 lift for sale
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Hi Roger.
I attached photos of the welds, and the current storage situation, I was
not home at the moment.

I do not have the " lift base", this would attach to a.standard lift.  pics
is of what I have.  So most of the following questions I can't help with. I
do not know who made it other than it was an employee of the previous
owner.

Maybe I should call it a custom cradle for the r22 rather a lift.

Let me know,





Thanks!
Tom

On Tue, May 14, 2024, 7:26 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:

> Hi Tom,
>
> I have several questions:
>
>
>   1.
> The welding you refer to is on aluminum tubing?  Have these spots been
> previously welded?  If they've been previously welded, can you supply a
> photo of the previously welded spots?
>   2.
> Are the legs adjustable for water depth & how deep water can it handle?
>   3.
> None of the pictures illustrate the foot pads.  What style are they; i.e.
> screw auger, mud pad, etc?
>   4.
> Manual or electric hoist?  If electric, what voltage and current circuit
> is required?
>   5.
> In the pictures, the hoist is on the port side, can it be switched to the
> starboard side?
>   6.
> Approximately, what does the lift weigh fully assembled?
>   7.
> Who built it originally, just in case I would need to order longer legs
> &/or different style foot pads?
>   8.
> Disassembled, what are the dimensions of the longest component?
>   9.
> How much are you asking for it?
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 1978  Sanford, MI
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Tom
> Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 12:44 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Custom R22 lift for sale
>
> Hello everyone! Hope we're all well.
>
> As we since parted with our beloved Octopian and the new owners did not
> want, I have a lift with no boat.
>
> Everything has been stored inside my enclosed trailer since pickup.
> All the wood is fresh, the carpets are clean, the aluminum is straight.
> There are two spots that need welding during assembly (else transport is
> unfeasible).
>
> See photos, make offer. Located in Waukesha WI.  Else I will scrap together
> the frame of a small shed, lol. However as this is custom made for the
> rarest best boat, I want to offer it here.  I also have all the hardware
> and brackets too.
>
> Best,
> Tom
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From tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com  Sat May 18 17:48:47 2024
From: tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com (Tom Van Heule)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 16:48:47 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Custom R22 lift for sale
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Roger, this photo is inside a 16ft trailer.  I had no problem using a
truckbed to move it all.  I took it from northern MN to WI that way.  It
could probably go on a roof rack if an suv.  No pice is a "team lift".

Thanks again,
Tom

On Sat, May 18, 2024, 4:43 PM Tom Van Heule <
tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:

> Hi Roger.
> I attached photos of the welds, and the current storage situation, I was
> not home at the moment.
>
> I do not have the " lift base", this would attach to a.standard lift.
> pics is of what I have.  So most of the following questions I can't help
> with. I do not know who made it other than it was an employee of the
> previous owner.
>
> Maybe I should call it a custom cradle for the r22 rather a lift.
>
> Let me know,
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks!
> Tom
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2024, 7:26 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> I have several questions:
>>
>>
>>   1.
>> The welding you refer to is on aluminum tubing?  Have these spots been
>> previously welded?  If they've been previously welded, can you supply a
>> photo of the previously welded spots?
>>   2.
>> Are the legs adjustable for water depth & how deep water can it handle?
>>   3.
>> None of the pictures illustrate the foot pads.  What style are they; i.e.
>> screw auger, mud pad, etc?
>>   4.
>> Manual or electric hoist?  If electric, what voltage and current circuit
>> is required?
>>   5.
>> In the pictures, the hoist is on the port side, can it be switched to the
>> starboard side?
>>   6.
>> Approximately, what does the lift weigh fully assembled?
>>   7.
>> Who built it originally, just in case I would need to order longer legs
>> &/or different style foot pads?
>>   8.
>> Disassembled, what are the dimensions of the longest component?
>>   9.
>> How much are you asking for it?
>>
>> Roger Pihlaja
>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> 1978  Sanford, MI
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
>> Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 12:44 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Custom R22 lift for sale
>>
>> Hello everyone! Hope we're all well.
>>
>> As we since parted with our beloved Octopian and the new owners did not
>> want, I have a lift with no boat.
>>
>> Everything has been stored inside my enclosed trailer since pickup.
>> All the wood is fresh, the carpets are clean, the aluminum is straight.
>> There are two spots that need welding during assembly (else transport is
>> unfeasible).
>>
>> See photos, make offer. Located in Waukesha WI.  Else I will scrap
>> together
>> the frame of a small shed, lol. However as this is custom made for the
>> rarest best boat, I want to offer it here.  I also have all the hardware
>> and brackets too.
>>
>> Best,
>> Tom
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From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Sat May 18 18:35:18 2024
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 22:35:18 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Custom R22 lift for sale
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Hi Tom,

It sounds like much more project than I am prepared to take on at the moment.  Good luck!

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
1978  Sanford, MI

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2024, at 5:49?PM, Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
>
> ?Roger, this photo is inside a 16ft trailer.  I had no problem using a
> truckbed to move it all.  I took it from northern MN to WI that way.  It
> could probably go on a roof rack if an suv.  No pice is a "team lift".
>
> Thanks again,
> Tom
>
>> On Sat, May 18, 2024, 4:43 PM Tom Van Heule <
>> tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Roger.
>> I attached photos of the welds, and the current storage situation, I was
>> not home at the moment.
>>
>> I do not have the " lift base", this would attach to a.standard lift.
>> pics is of what I have.  So most of the following questions I can't help
>> with. I do not know who made it other than it was an employee of the
>> previous owner.
>>
>> Maybe I should call it a custom cradle for the r22 rather a lift.
>>
>> Let me know,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Tom
>>
>>> On Tue, May 14, 2024, 7:26 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>> I have several questions:
>>>
>>>
>>>  1.
>>> The welding you refer to is on aluminum tubing?  Have these spots been
>>> previously welded?  If they've been previously welded, can you supply a
>>> photo of the previously welded spots?
>>>  2.
>>> Are the legs adjustable for water depth & how deep water can it handle?
>>>  3.
>>> None of the pictures illustrate the foot pads.  What style are they; i.e.
>>> screw auger, mud pad, etc?
>>>  4.
>>> Manual or electric hoist?  If electric, what voltage and current circuit
>>> is required?
>>>  5.
>>> In the pictures, the hoist is on the port side, can it be switched to the
>>> starboard side?
>>>  6.
>>> Approximately, what does the lift weigh fully assembled?
>>>  7.
>>> Who built it originally, just in case I would need to order longer legs
>>> &/or different style foot pads?
>>>  8.
>>> Disassembled, what are the dimensions of the longest component?
>>>  9.
>>> How much are you asking for it?
>>>
>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>> 1978  Sanford, MI
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
>>> Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 12:44 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Custom R22 lift for sale
>>>
>>> Hello everyone! Hope we're all well.
>>>
>>> As we since parted with our beloved Octopian and the new owners did not
>>> want, I have a lift with no boat.
>>>
>>> Everything has been stored inside my enclosed trailer since pickup.
>>> All the wood is fresh, the carpets are clean, the aluminum is straight.
>>> There are two spots that need welding during assembly (else transport is
>>> unfeasible).
>>>
>>> See photos, make offer. Located in Waukesha WI.  Else I will scrap
>>> together
>>> the frame of a small shed, lol. However as this is custom made for the
>>> rarest best boat, I want to offer it here.  I also have all the hardware
>>> and brackets too.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Tom
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