From dgworth3 at icloud.com  Wed Jul  2 16:09:21 2025
From: dgworth3 at icloud.com (David Worth)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2025 20:09:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
Message-ID: <45017fff-c5bc-4fec-81f8-2cee6a18b544@me.com>

Friends, This 1993 Rhodes22 is sitting rigged on the trailer at Havre de Grace.... getting lonely because we aren't in shape to sail it anymore! So, I have dropped the price to $4500 and am willing to deliver it to you anywhere east of the Mississippi..... well maybe east of the Appalachians? Talk to me. Check it out in the attachment below. Dave David G Worth 120 W Lemon St Lititz, PA 17543 717-715-7879 dgworth3 at icloud.com
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From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Thu Jul  3 11:06:28 2025
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 11:06:28 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <45017fff-c5bc-4fec-81f8-2cee6a18b544@me.com>
References: <45017fff-c5bc-4fec-81f8-2cee6a18b544@me.com>
Message-ID: <E9AEEB2E-8154-4C03-8AA9-14863472BB4F@stottarchitecture.com>

David: 
The deal looks too good to be true. 
Does the boat come with a Galvanized trailer? 
Ric 
SV Dadventure 

> On Jul 2, 2025, at 4:09 PM, David Worth via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Friends, This 1993 Rhodes22 is sitting rigged on the trailer at Havre de Grace.... getting lonely because we aren't in shape to sail it anymore! So, I have dropped the price to $4500 and am willing to deliver it to you anywhere east of the Mississippi..... well maybe east of the Appalachians? Talk to me. Check it out in the attachment below. Dave David G Worth 120 W Lemon St Lititz, PA 17543 717-715-7879 dgworth3 at icloud.com
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Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
ric at stottarchitecture.com
C- 516-965-3164




From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 23:44:58 2025
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 22:44:58 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <E9AEEB2E-8154-4C03-8AA9-14863472BB4F@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <E9AEEB2E-8154-4C03-8AA9-14863472BB4F@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <CD95A383-5826-4471-8C5D-9BEBAF22D638@gmail.com>

Rick, I?ll split the cost and you take the trailer and I?ll take the boat, I?ll bring my trailer to the dance. 
Chris Geankoplis
 XENOS 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 3, 2025, at 10:12?AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
> 
> ?David:
> The deal looks too good to be true.
> Does the boat come with a Galvanized trailer?
> Ric
> SV Dadventure
> 
>> On Jul 2, 2025, at 4:09 PM, David Worth via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Friends, This 1993 Rhodes22 is sitting rigged on the trailer at Havre de Grace.... getting lonely because we aren't in shape to sail it anymore! So, I have dropped the price to $4500 and am willing to deliver it to you anywhere east of the Mississippi..... well maybe east of the Appalachians? Talk to me. Check it out in the attachment below. Dave David G Worth 120 W Lemon St Lititz, PA 17543 717-715-7879 dgworth3 at icloud.com
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> 
> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> C- 516-965-3164
> 
> 
> 

From rodellner at mac.com  Fri Jul  4 13:46:04 2025
From: rodellner at mac.com (Rod Ellner)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2025 11:46:04 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <CD95A383-5826-4471-8C5D-9BEBAF22D638@gmail.com>
References: <CD95A383-5826-4471-8C5D-9BEBAF22D638@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D42E021F-3262-40D2-8E89-82F813C177F4@mac.com>

Love it Chris?.you and Alice will have a veritable FLEET of Rhodes soon?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 3, 2025, at 9:45 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Rick, I?ll split the cost and you take the trailer and I?ll take the boat, I?ll bring my trailer to the dance. 
> Chris Geankoplis
> XENOS 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 3, 2025, at 10:12?AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?David:
>> The deal looks too good to be true.
>> Does the boat come with a Galvanized trailer?
>> Ric
>> SV Dadventure
>> 
>>>> On Jul 2, 2025, at 4:09 PM, David Worth via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Friends, This 1993 Rhodes22 is sitting rigged on the trailer at Havre de Grace.... getting lonely because we aren't in shape to sail it anymore! So, I have dropped the price to $4500 and am willing to deliver it to you anywhere east of the Mississippi..... well maybe east of the Appalachians? Talk to me. Check it out in the attachment below. Dave David G Worth 120 W Lemon St Lititz, PA 17543 717-715-7879 dgworth3 at icloud.com
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>> 
>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>> C- 516-965-3164
>> 
>> 
>> 

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Fri Jul  4 15:09:36 2025
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2025 14:09:36 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <D42E021F-3262-40D2-8E89-82F813C177F4@mac.com>
References: <D42E021F-3262-40D2-8E89-82F813C177F4@mac.com>
Message-ID: <76B1F324-746A-414D-8279-13B449B4235A@gmail.com>

Yes, not kidding.l I could find a specific use as it is the cruising layout. Let me know. Might have to factor in the cost of the divorce lawyer.  Grin. 

Chris Geankoplis 
XENOS + ?.??
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2025, at 12:46?PM, Rod Ellner via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Love it Chris?.you and Alice will have a veritable FLEET of Rhodes soon?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 3, 2025, at 9:45 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Rick, I?ll split the cost and you take the trailer and I?ll take the boat, I?ll bring my trailer to the dance.
>> Chris Geankoplis
>> XENOS
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 3, 2025, at 10:12?AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?David:
>>> The deal looks too good to be true.
>>> Does the boat come with a Galvanized trailer?
>>> Ric
>>> SV Dadventure
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 2, 2025, at 4:09 PM, David Worth via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Friends, This 1993 Rhodes22 is sitting rigged on the trailer at Havre de Grace.... getting lonely because we aren't in shape to sail it anymore! So, I have dropped the price to $4500 and am willing to deliver it to you anywhere east of the Mississippi..... well maybe east of the Appalachians? Talk to me. Check it out in the attachment below. Dave David G Worth 120 W Lemon St Lititz, PA 17543 717-715-7879 dgworth3 at icloud.com
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>>> 
>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>> C- 516-965-3164
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 

From tvpolise at aol.com  Sat Jul  5 10:15:30 2025
From: tvpolise at aol.com (THOMAS POLISE)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2025 10:15:30 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size
References: <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC@aol.com>

I presently have a 9.9 HP motor that is in need of replacement, and was considering the 8 hp Yamaha.  Has anyone gone to 8, and if so is that enough hp against wind and also in assisting in getting off when running aground?
Thanks 

From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  5 10:49:24 2025
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2025 10:49:24 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size
In-Reply-To: <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC@aol.com>
References: <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC.ref@aol.com>
 <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CACo3U6PvY5tjRqmU4CP4TnDvC=-0S0-K0sL6RH4bNUxFuphEjQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have an 8 hp electric start Mercury that works great with my Rhodes-it
has plenty of power.

One feature that is particularly useful on the Merc is the throttle is used
to shift: twist counterclockwise for forward, clockwise for reverse and
neutral is in between.

The paddle shifter found on many outboards would be very awkward to use on
a Rhodes. I would check the Yamaha for that detail.


Michael McKay (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
S/V Liber 2006/2018
Woodstock, GA


On Sat, Jul 5, 2025 at 10:22?AM THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I presently have a 9.9 HP motor that is in need of replacement, and was
> considering the 8 hp Yamaha.  Has anyone gone to 8, and if so is that
> enough hp against wind and also in assisting in getting off when running
> aground?
> Thanks
>

From snstaum at gmail.com  Sat Jul  5 12:59:24 2025
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2025 12:59:24 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size
In-Reply-To: <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC@aol.com>
References: <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC.ref@aol.com>
 <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAOo_FjetALiRqWuv0VuODMVqiNkMsthmfVHjjqgugFijJXCHKg@mail.gmail.com>

I have had 3 Rhodes 22s since 2003. My 1st was a lake boat with a 4 hp 2
stroke Mariner. I encountered a squall with 4 ft seas & 35 mph winds & the
4hp was quite adequate. I have also had a 5 hp 4 stroke Briggs & Stratton,
a 2 stroke 9.9 hp Yamaha & currently a 4 stroke 9.9 hp Yamaha. The 8 hp is
absolutely fine. I borrowed one when mine needed service & it was fine.

Stay Well,
Stephen Staum
s/v Pinafore
Needham, MA

On Sat, Jul 5, 2025 at 10:32?AM THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I presently have a 9.9 HP motor that is in need of replacement, and was
> considering the 8 hp Yamaha.  Has anyone gone to 8, and if so is that
> enough hp against wind and also in assisting in getting off when running
> aground?
> Thanks
>

From bobfcohen at gmail.com  Sat Jul  5 13:31:46 2025
From: bobfcohen at gmail.com (bobfcohen at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2025 13:31:46 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size
In-Reply-To: <CACo3U6PvY5tjRqmU4CP4TnDvC=-0S0-K0sL6RH4bNUxFuphEjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC.ref@aol.com>
 <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC@aol.com>
 <CACo3U6PvY5tjRqmU4CP4TnDvC=-0S0-K0sL6RH4bNUxFuphEjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005d01dbedd2$af389e40$0da9dac0$@gmail.com>

I also have an 8 hp  electric start Mercury, and find it very adequate.  I agree with Michael McKay about the importance of being able to shift between forward and reverse using the throttle.

Bob Cohen
S/V Silver Bay
Onekama, MI

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael McKay
Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2025 10:49 AM
To: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size

I have an 8 hp electric start Mercury that works great with my Rhodes-it has plenty of power.

One feature that is particularly useful on the Merc is the throttle is used to shift: twist counterclockwise for forward, clockwise for reverse and neutral is in between.

The paddle shifter found on many outboards would be very awkward to use on a Rhodes. I would check the Yamaha for that detail.


Michael McKay (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
S/V Liber 2006/2018
Woodstock, GA


On Sat, Jul 5, 2025 at 10:22?AM THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I presently have a 9.9 HP motor that is in need of replacement, and 
> was considering the 8 hp Yamaha.  Has anyone gone to 8, and if so is 
> that enough hp against wind and also in assisting in getting off when 
> running aground?
> Thanks
>


From lvjkuhn at gmail.com  Sat Jul  5 14:21:30 2025
From: lvjkuhn at gmail.com (Lee Kuhn)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2025 14:21:30 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size
In-Reply-To: <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC@aol.com>
References: <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC.ref@aol.com>
 <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAPgvAEnFDsOmfJ1WXBXmV4zUmH53Ai8OT35WncwBMmnZmC=T-A@mail.gmail.com>

I had a 9.9 Mercury long shaft that definitely seemed like overkill.
Fighting a 35 knot headwind in heavy Chesapeake chop I could only go 3.5
knots and the propeller rose out of the water between each wave.

Replaced it with a 6 Tohatsu that drove the boat over 5 knots in relatively
calm water at 3/4 throttle. Advantage was that I could remove the 59 pound
motor (barely) by myself.

8 hp long shaft seems most popular.

Lee
Boatless at Claytor Lake, VA

On Sat, Jul 5, 2025, 10:22 AM THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I presently have a 9.9 HP motor that is in need of replacement, and was
> considering the 8 hp Yamaha.  Has anyone gone to 8, and if so is that
> enough hp against wind and also in assisting in getting off when running
> aground?
> Thanks
>

From jayf401 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  5 14:59:59 2025
From: jayf401 at gmail.com (Jay Friedland)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2025 14:59:59 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size
In-Reply-To: <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC@aol.com>
References: <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BF09AF45-0DD0-42CF-9610-084B5658A5A0@gmail.com>

Thomas,
Just a head?s up from my 35 years on an R22 on Barnegat Bay. My 2nd Rhodes came with an 8hp Mercury. I had some experience with squalls coming out of nowhere on a beautiful sunny day. I was anywheres from 3-5 miles from my marina and couldn?t outrun the blow, nor dig in to the chop. I learned to drop the sails, and low motor into the storm. So while the 8 was adequate, I tried a friend?s boat with a 9.9 Yamaha and felt the difference both in power and an extra long shaft.
I worked with Elton to switch it and haven?t regretted it since. We go out occasionally in the ocean and really need the 9.9, but our predictably high winds create 3+ foot rollers the same in the bay. I was only able to attain hull speed at 6.2 kts. in relatively flat conditions. Or if I?ve lost track of time on a great sail and have to beeline home?.
Anyhow, that?s my 2 cents.

Jay Friedland 
S/V Wanderlust ?97
Long Beach Island (south), NJ
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2025, at 10:22?AM, THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> ?I presently have a 9.9 HP motor that is in need of replacement, and was considering the 8 hp Yamaha.  Has anyone gone to 8, and if so is that enough hp against wind and also in assisting in getting off when running aground?
> Thanks

From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Sat Jul  5 15:59:12 2025
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2025 19:59:12 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size
In-Reply-To: <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC@aol.com>
References: <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BY5PR10MB38253DE8E3B6B2C008419F1D804DA@BY5PR10MB3825.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Tom,

I?ve used a Honda 8 hp extra long shaft outboard since 1994.  As long as you can keep the prop in the water, 8 hp has always been enough.  The trouble is, if you have run aground, what are the waves doing?  Are breaking waves going to uncover your prop, causing it to cavitate?  I can?t speak to being able to pull off after running aground, as I haven?t done that.  I would think the difference in reverse thrust between 8 hp and 9 hp would be minimal.  You will be able to generate more pulling power by using an anchor and one of your primary winches to ?kedge? off.  If you are well and truly stuck, it?s going to take a big power boat to pull you off.  Look at the engines on the commercial tow boats.  Often, they come with twin 250?s with thrust props.  That?s probably a factor of >100X the force either an 8 or 9 hp outboard, or an anchor kedge is going to provide.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium 
1978. Sanford, MI
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2025, at 10:15?AM, THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I presently have a 9.9 HP motor that is in need of replacement, and was considering the 8 hp Yamaha.  Has anyone gone to 8, and if so is that enough hp against wind and also in assisting in getting off when running aground?
> Thanks

From tvpolise at aol.com  Sat Jul  5 16:14:14 2025
From: tvpolise at aol.com (THOMAS POLISE)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2025 16:14:14 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size
In-Reply-To: <BF09AF45-0DD0-42CF-9610-084B5658A5A0@gmail.com>
References: <BF09AF45-0DD0-42CF-9610-084B5658A5A0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ABEF1EAA-7C5E-4ACE-951C-9E80E2451BDC@aol.com>

Thanks.  I?m also in Barnegat Bay, out of Harvey Cedars. 

> On Jul 5, 2025, at 3:00?PM, Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Thomas,
> Just a head?s up from my 35 years on an R22 on Barnegat Bay. My 2nd Rhodes came with an 8hp Mercury. I had some experience with squalls coming out of nowhere on a beautiful sunny day. I was anywheres from 3-5 miles from my marina and couldn?t outrun the blow, nor dig in to the chop. I learned to drop the sails, and low motor into the storm. So while the 8 was adequate, I tried a friend?s boat with a 9.9 Yamaha and felt the difference both in power and an extra long shaft.
> I worked with Elton to switch it and haven?t regretted it since. We go out occasionally in the ocean and really need the 9.9, but our predictably high winds create 3+ foot rollers the same in the bay. I was only able to attain hull speed at 6.2 kts. in relatively flat conditions. Or if I?ve lost track of time on a great sail and have to beeline home?.
> Anyhow, that?s my 2 cents.
> 
> Jay Friedland
> S/V Wanderlust ?97
> Long Beach Island (south), NJ
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2025, at 10:22?AM, THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> ?I presently have a 9.9 HP motor that is in need of replacement, and was considering the 8 hp Yamaha.  Has anyone gone to 8, and if so is that enough hp against wind and also in assisting in getting off when running aground?
>> Thanks


From tvpolise at aol.com  Sat Jul  5 16:15:30 2025
From: tvpolise at aol.com (THOMAS POLISE)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2025 16:15:30 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size
In-Reply-To: <005d01dbedd2$af389e40$0da9dac0$@gmail.com>
References: <005d01dbedd2$af389e40$0da9dac0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <699A9E64-95EE-44EE-913F-17727116D76E@aol.com>

Thanks

> On Jul 5, 2025, at 1:31?PM, bobfcohen at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> ?I also have an 8 hp  electric start Mercury, and find it very adequate.  I agree with Michael McKay about the importance of being able to shift between forward and reverse using the throttle.
> 
> Bob Cohen
> S/V Silver Bay
> Onekama, MI
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael McKay
> Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2025 10:49 AM
> To: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size
> 
> I have an 8 hp electric start Mercury that works great with my Rhodes-it has plenty of power.
> 
> One feature that is particularly useful on the Merc is the throttle is used to shift: twist counterclockwise for forward, clockwise for reverse and neutral is in between.
> 
> The paddle shifter found on many outboards would be very awkward to use on a Rhodes. I would check the Yamaha for that detail.
> 
> 
> Michael McKay (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
> S/V Liber 2006/2018
> Woodstock, GA
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2025 at 10:22?AM THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I presently have a 9.9 HP motor that is in need of replacement, and
>> was considering the 8 hp Yamaha.  Has anyone gone to 8, and if so is
>> that enough hp against wind and also in assisting in getting off when
>> running aground?
>> Thanks
>> 
> 


From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sat Jul  5 22:20:15 2025
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2025 22:20:15 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size
In-Reply-To: <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC@aol.com>
References: <17A8F280-FF33-415E-AC43-E1A2DEE442BC@aol.com>
Message-ID: <D998D204-ADA4-4119-885F-5B126A3C08EB@gmail.com>

I had an electric start 8 hp mercury 4 stroke. Took us the length of the Sea of Cortez and from Spain to Turkey over 4-5 years. Lots of weather in between. It was always enough.  Sailed the pacific NW and Sea of Cortez in previous years with a 6 hour Yamaha electric start but after 10 years it kept catching on fire so we got the 8 Merc. Except a few times with nasty currents, we mostly always made forward progress. 

Chris Geankoplis 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2025, at 10:22?AM, THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I presently have a 9.9 HP motor that is in need of replacement, and was considering the 8 hp Yamaha.  Has anyone gone to 8, and if so is that enough hp against wind and also in assisting in getting off when running aground?
> Thanks

From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Sun Jul  6 01:33:05 2025
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2025 05:33:05 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size
In-Reply-To: <699A9E64-95EE-44EE-913F-17727116D76E@aol.com>
References: <005d01dbedd2$af389e40$0da9dac0$@gmail.com>
 <699A9E64-95EE-44EE-913F-17727116D76E@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BY5PR10MB3825221B20F81652A618975F804CA@BY5PR10MB3825.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Tom,
I have a single lever remote engine control on my Honda 8 outboard.  The remote engine control is mounted on the port side gunnel a couple feet forward of the transom.  This is the best setup of all.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium 
1978. Sanford, MU

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2025, at 4:17?PM, THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2025, at 1:31?PM, bobfcohen at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> ?I also have an 8 hp  electric start Mercury, and find it very adequate.  I agree with Michael McKay about the importance of being able to shift between forward and reverse using the throttle.
>> 
>> Bob Cohen
>> S/V Silver Bay
>> Onekama, MI
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael McKay
>> Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2025 10:49 AM
>> To: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size
>> 
>> I have an 8 hp electric start Mercury that works great with my Rhodes-it has plenty of power.
>> 
>> One feature that is particularly useful on the Merc is the throttle is used to shift: twist counterclockwise for forward, clockwise for reverse and neutral is in between.
>> 
>> The paddle shifter found on many outboards would be very awkward to use on a Rhodes. I would check the Yamaha for that detail.
>> 
>> 
>> Michael McKay (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
>> S/V Liber 2006/2018
>> Woodstock, GA
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2025 at 10:22?AM THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I presently have a 9.9 HP motor that is in need of replacement, and
>>> was considering the 8 hp Yamaha.  Has anyone gone to 8, and if so is
>>> that enough hp against wind and also in assisting in getting off when
>>> running aground?
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>> 
> 

From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Sun Jul  6 16:28:50 2025
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2025 16:28:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <76B1F324-746A-414D-8279-13B449B4235A@gmail.com>
References: <76B1F324-746A-414D-8279-13B449B4235A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EDD2BCFC-D963-4156-9C8F-95901641E4F2@stottarchitecture.com>

If it was a galvanized trailer I would jump at it.
Ric
Dadventure. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2025, at 3:09?PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Yes, not kidding.l I could find a specific use as it is the cruising layout. Let me know. Might have to factor in the cost of the divorce lawyer.  Grin.
> 
> Chris Geankoplis
> XENOS + ?.??
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 4, 2025, at 12:46?PM, Rod Ellner via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Love it Chris?.you and Alice will have a veritable FLEET of Rhodes soon?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 3, 2025, at 9:45 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Rick, I?ll split the cost and you take the trailer and I?ll take the boat, I?ll bring my trailer to the dance.
>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>> XENOS
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 3, 2025, at 10:12?AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?David:
>>>> The deal looks too good to be true.
>>>> Does the boat come with a Galvanized trailer?
>>>> Ric
>>>> SV Dadventure
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2025, at 4:09 PM, David Worth via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Friends, This 1993 Rhodes22 is sitting rigged on the trailer at Havre de Grace.... getting lonely because we aren't in shape to sail it anymore! So, I have dropped the price to $4500 and am willing to deliver it to you anywhere east of the Mississippi..... well maybe east of the Appalachians? Talk to me. Check it out in the attachment below. Dave David G Worth 120 W Lemon St Lititz, PA 17543 717-715-7879 dgworth3 at icloud.com
>>>>> -------------- next part --------------
>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
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>>>>> Type: application/pdf
>>>>> Size: 1073751 bytes
>>>>> Desc: not available
>>>>> URL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20250702/a900d8ad/attachment.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>>> C- 516-965-3164
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 

From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Jul  7 06:58:03 2025
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 06:58:03 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size
In-Reply-To: <005d01dbedd2$af389e40$0da9dac0$@gmail.com>
References: <005d01dbedd2$af389e40$0da9dac0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C14F0FE1-6B89-43DF-B4CF-112B0F2B1799@stottarchitecture.com>

I have Honda 8HP and it has all the powers I need.   It also puts out a lot of charging power, more than most. What  I don?t like is the size of the cowling and the weight.  I also don?t like the throttle sensitivity at slow speeds. It?s hard to adjust to the desired RPM. 
RIC
DADVENTURE. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2025, at 1:31?PM, bobfcohen at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> ?I also have an 8 hp  electric start Mercury, and find it very adequate.  I agree with Michael McKay about the importance of being able to shift between forward and reverse using the throttle.
> 
> Bob Cohen
> S/V Silver Bay
> Onekama, MI
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael McKay
> Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2025 10:49 AM
> To: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size
> 
> I have an 8 hp electric start Mercury that works great with my Rhodes-it has plenty of power.
> 
> One feature that is particularly useful on the Merc is the throttle is used to shift: twist counterclockwise for forward, clockwise for reverse and neutral is in between.
> 
> The paddle shifter found on many outboards would be very awkward to use on a Rhodes. I would check the Yamaha for that detail.
> 
> 
> Michael McKay (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
> S/V Liber 2006/2018
> Woodstock, GA
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2025 at 10:22?AM THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I presently have a 9.9 HP motor that is in need of replacement, and
>> was considering the 8 hp Yamaha.  Has anyone gone to 8, and if so is
>> that enough hp against wind and also in assisting in getting off when
>> running aground?
>> Thanks
>> 
> 

From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Jul  7 07:21:36 2025
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 07:21:36 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <76B1F324-746A-414D-8279-13B449B4235A@gmail.com>
References: <76B1F324-746A-414D-8279-13B449B4235A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D8E5B42F-7A8A-465B-8979-9EF0D9797B2F@stottarchitecture.com>

David/Chris, if you are serious, let?s talk some more. I am desperate for a trailer that I?m not afraid will break in half next time I launch. If the trailer is generally rust free, I AM interested. 
Ric
Sv Dadventure. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2025, at 3:09?PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Yes, not kidding.l I could find a specific use as it is the cruising layout. Let me know. Might have to factor in the cost of the divorce lawyer.  Grin.
> 
> Chris Geankoplis
> XENOS + ?.??
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 4, 2025, at 12:46?PM, Rod Ellner via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Love it Chris?.you and Alice will have a veritable FLEET of Rhodes soon?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 3, 2025, at 9:45 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Rick, I?ll split the cost and you take the trailer and I?ll take the boat, I?ll bring my trailer to the dance.
>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>> XENOS
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 3, 2025, at 10:12?AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?David:
>>>> The deal looks too good to be true.
>>>> Does the boat come with a Galvanized trailer?
>>>> Ric
>>>> SV Dadventure
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2025, at 4:09 PM, David Worth via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Friends, This 1993 Rhodes22 is sitting rigged on the trailer at Havre de Grace.... getting lonely because we aren't in shape to sail it anymore! So, I have dropped the price to $4500 and am willing to deliver it to you anywhere east of the Mississippi..... well maybe east of the Appalachians? Talk to me. Check it out in the attachment below. Dave David G Worth 120 W Lemon St Lititz, PA 17543 717-715-7879 dgworth3 at icloud.com
>>>>> -------------- next part --------------
>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
>>>>> Name: BLUE HERON DOCUMENTS JULY 2025.pdf
>>>>> Type: application/pdf
>>>>> Size: 1073751 bytes
>>>>> Desc: not available
>>>>> URL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20250702/a900d8ad/attachment.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>>> C- 516-965-3164
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 

From tvpolise at aol.com  Mon Jul  7 10:41:09 2025
From: tvpolise at aol.com (THOMAS POLISE)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 10:41:09 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size
In-Reply-To: <C14F0FE1-6B89-43DF-B4CF-112B0F2B1799@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <C14F0FE1-6B89-43DF-B4CF-112B0F2B1799@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <13A36A11-02B9-4AB5-95DC-6EEEC5FF8D45@aol.com>

Thank you all for your advice 

> On Jul 7, 2025, at 6:58?AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I have Honda 8HP and it has all the powers I need.   It also puts out a lot of charging power, more than most. What  I don?t like is the size of the cowling and the weight.  I also don?t like the throttle sensitivity at slow speeds. It?s hard to adjust to the desired RPM.
> RIC
> DADVENTURE.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2025, at 1:31?PM, bobfcohen at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> ?I also have an 8 hp  electric start Mercury, and find it very adequate.  I agree with Michael McKay about the importance of being able to shift between forward and reverse using the throttle.
>> 
>> Bob Cohen
>> S/V Silver Bay
>> Onekama, MI
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael McKay
>> Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2025 10:49 AM
>> To: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor size
>> 
>> I have an 8 hp electric start Mercury that works great with my Rhodes-it has plenty of power.
>> 
>> One feature that is particularly useful on the Merc is the throttle is used to shift: twist counterclockwise for forward, clockwise for reverse and neutral is in between.
>> 
>> The paddle shifter found on many outboards would be very awkward to use on a Rhodes. I would check the Yamaha for that detail.
>> 
>> 
>> Michael McKay (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
>> S/V Liber 2006/2018
>> Woodstock, GA
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2025 at 10:22?AM THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I presently have a 9.9 HP motor that is in need of replacement, and
>>> was considering the 8 hp Yamaha.  Has anyone gone to 8, and if so is
>>> that enough hp against wind and also in assisting in getting off when
>>> running aground?
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>> 


From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Jul  7 10:42:59 2025
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 10:42:59 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <76B1F324-746A-414D-8279-13B449B4235A@gmail.com>
References: <D42E021F-3262-40D2-8E89-82F813C177F4@mac.com>
 <76B1F324-746A-414D-8279-13B449B4235A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E5F34F88-BA17-4C5F-8BD1-51FBB0832969@stottarchitecture.com>

I really am desperate for a trailer so maybe this can work out if avid has not sold it.
I figure I can keep sailing Dadventure for another 10 years - maybe.  
Ric 

> On Jul 4, 2025, at 3:09 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, not kidding.l I could find a specific use as it is the cruising layout. Let me know. Might have to factor in the cost of the divorce lawyer.  Grin. 
> 
> Chris Geankoplis 
> XENOS + ?.??
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 4, 2025, at 12:46?PM, Rod Ellner via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Love it Chris?.you and Alice will have a veritable FLEET of Rhodes soon?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 3, 2025, at 9:45 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Rick, I?ll split the cost and you take the trailer and I?ll take the boat, I?ll bring my trailer to the dance.
>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>> XENOS
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 3, 2025, at 10:12?AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?David:
>>>> The deal looks too good to be true.
>>>> Does the boat come with a Galvanized trailer?
>>>> Ric
>>>> SV Dadventure
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2025, at 4:09 PM, David Worth via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Friends, This 1993 Rhodes22 is sitting rigged on the trailer at Havre de Grace.... getting lonely because we aren't in shape to sail it anymore! So, I have dropped the price to $4500 and am willing to deliver it to you anywhere east of the Mississippi..... well maybe east of the Appalachians? Talk to me. Check it out in the attachment below. Dave David G Worth 120 W Lemon St Lititz, PA 17543 717-715-7879 dgworth3 at icloud.com
>>>>> -------------- next part --------------
>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
>>>>> Name: BLUE HERON DOCUMENTS JULY 2025.pdf
>>>>> Type: application/pdf
>>>>> Size: 1073751 bytes
>>>>> Desc: not available
>>>>> URL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20250702/a900d8ad/attachment.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>>> C- 516-965-3164
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 

Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
ric at stottarchitecture.com
C- 516-965-3164




From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 10:46:20 2025
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 10:46:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <D8E5B42F-7A8A-465B-8979-9EF0D9797B2F@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <D8E5B42F-7A8A-465B-8979-9EF0D9797B2F@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <2E2DB96C-E49B-436E-8470-FDBDCC82A215@gmail.com>

Yes, I am but I think it was already sold. ??
Chris 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 7, 2025, at 7:21?AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
> 
> ?David/Chris, if you are serious, let?s talk some more. I am desperate for a trailer that I?m not afraid will break in half next time I launch. If the trailer is generally rust free, I AM interested.
> Ric
> Sv Dadventure.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 4, 2025, at 3:09?PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Yes, not kidding.l I could find a specific use as it is the cruising layout. Let me know. Might have to factor in the cost of the divorce lawyer.  Grin.
>> 
>> Chris Geankoplis
>> XENOS + ?.??
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 4, 2025, at 12:46?PM, Rod Ellner via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Love it Chris?.you and Alice will have a veritable FLEET of Rhodes soon?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 3, 2025, at 9:45 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Rick, I?ll split the cost and you take the trailer and I?ll take the boat, I?ll bring my trailer to the dance.
>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>> XENOS
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 3, 2025, at 10:12?AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?David:
>>>>> The deal looks too good to be true.
>>>>> Does the boat come with a Galvanized trailer?
>>>>> Ric
>>>>> SV Dadventure
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2025, at 4:09 PM, David Worth via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Friends, This 1993 Rhodes22 is sitting rigged on the trailer at Havre de Grace.... getting lonely because we aren't in shape to sail it anymore! So, I have dropped the price to $4500 and am willing to deliver it to you anywhere east of the Mississippi..... well maybe east of the Appalachians? Talk to me. Check it out in the attachment below. Dave David G Worth 120 W Lemon St Lititz, PA 17543 717-715-7879 dgworth3 at icloud.com
>>>>>> -------------- next part --------------
>>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
>>>>>> Name: BLUE HERON DOCUMENTS JULY 2025.pdf
>>>>>> Type: application/pdf
>>>>>> Size: 1073751 bytes
>>>>>> Desc: not available
>>>>>> URL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20250702/a900d8ad/attachment.pdf>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>>>> C- 516-965-3164
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 

From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Jul  7 11:26:36 2025
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 11:26:36 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <2E2DB96C-E49B-436E-8470-FDBDCC82A215@gmail.com>
References: <D8E5B42F-7A8A-465B-8979-9EF0D9797B2F@stottarchitecture.com>
 <2E2DB96C-E49B-436E-8470-FDBDCC82A215@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8FA42D19-E2C1-4E7B-B796-63439233C0B6@stottarchitecture.com>

Yes it is - I just had an email exchange with David. 
Sold it to some folks from NC. 
Lucky buyers. 
Ric 
PS 
Ya?ll keep an eye out for a galvanized  trailer for me. 


> On Jul 7, 2025, at 10:46 AM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I am but I think it was already sold. ??
> Chris 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 7, 2025, at 7:21?AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?David/Chris, if you are serious, let?s talk some more. I am desperate for a trailer that I?m not afraid will break in half next time I launch. If the trailer is generally rust free, I AM interested.
>> Ric
>> Sv Dadventure.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 4, 2025, at 3:09?PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Yes, not kidding.l I could find a specific use as it is the cruising layout. Let me know. Might have to factor in the cost of the divorce lawyer.  Grin.
>>> 
>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>> XENOS + ?.??
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 4, 2025, at 12:46?PM, Rod Ellner via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Love it Chris?.you and Alice will have a veritable FLEET of Rhodes soon?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 3, 2025, at 9:45 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?Rick, I?ll split the cost and you take the trailer and I?ll take the boat, I?ll bring my trailer to the dance.
>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>> XENOS
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 2025, at 10:12?AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ?David:
>>>>>> The deal looks too good to be true.
>>>>>> Does the boat come with a Galvanized trailer?
>>>>>> Ric
>>>>>> SV Dadventure
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2025, at 4:09 PM, David Worth via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Friends, This 1993 Rhodes22 is sitting rigged on the trailer at Havre de Grace.... getting lonely because we aren't in shape to sail it anymore! So, I have dropped the price to $4500 and am willing to deliver it to you anywhere east of the Mississippi..... well maybe east of the Appalachians? Talk to me. Check it out in the attachment below. Dave David G Worth 120 W Lemon St Lititz, PA 17543 717-715-7879 dgworth3 at icloud.com
>>>>>>> -------------- next part --------------
>>>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
>>>>>>> Name: BLUE HERON DOCUMENTS JULY 2025.pdf
>>>>>>> Type: application/pdf
>>>>>>> Size: 1073751 bytes
>>>>>>> Desc: not available
>>>>>>> URL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20250702/a900d8ad/attachment.pdf>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>>>>> C- 516-965-3164
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 

Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
ric at stottarchitecture.com
C- 516-965-3164




From jbconnolly at comcast.net  Mon Jul  7 13:51:02 2025
From: jbconnolly at comcast.net (Jim Connolly)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 13:51:02 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <8FA42D19-E2C1-4E7B-B796-63439233C0B6@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <D8E5B42F-7A8A-465B-8979-9EF0D9797B2F@stottarchitecture.com>
 <2E2DB96C-E49B-436E-8470-FDBDCC82A215@gmail.com>,
 <8FA42D19-E2C1-4E7B-B796-63439233C0B6@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <000E797B-9405-0849-A76E-C1025A513504@hxcore.ol>


From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 21:34:52 2025
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 21:34:52 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <000E797B-9405-0849-A76E-C1025A513504@hxcore.ol>
References: <000E797B-9405-0849-A76E-C1025A513504@hxcore.ol>
Message-ID: <6877CA6E-65C6-49E4-AC1C-4AD6E8FE6E89@gmail.com>

Can?t wait for the content!  Grin. Just the title came through. 
Chris G
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 7, 2025, at 1:51?PM, Jim Connolly via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?

From jbconnolly at comcast.net  Tue Jul  8 06:12:50 2025
From: jbconnolly at comcast.net (Jim Connolly)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 06:12:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <6877CA6E-65C6-49E4-AC1C-4AD6E8FE6E89@gmail.com>
References: <000E797B-9405-0849-A76E-C1025A513504@hxcore.ol>,
 <6877CA6E-65C6-49E4-AC1C-4AD6E8FE6E89@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D55B650E-AB63-204C-BCB1-863810B090DA@hxcore.ol>


From kenwood364 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 10:22:46 2025
From: kenwood364 at gmail.com (Kenwood _)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 10:22:46 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <D55B650E-AB63-204C-BCB1-863810B090DA@hxcore.ol>
References: <000E797B-9405-0849-A76E-C1025A513504@hxcore.ol>
 <6877CA6E-65C6-49E4-AC1C-4AD6E8FE6E89@gmail.com>
 <D55B650E-AB63-204C-BCB1-863810B090DA@hxcore.ol>
Message-ID: <CABvjUT1Y79ttDF_Kzyjo9=jouLOgqJepgwkKTLMHMjchz9dwpA@mail.gmail.com>

Wow that bathroom layout and hatch in the roof is super different compared
to mine. Is that all custom? I kinda wanna copy that. I just have a big
divider and a curtain. No roof hatch either.

On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 6:23?AM Jim Connolly via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

>

From recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  8 11:19:59 2025
From: recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com (peter beckerman)
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2025 11:19:59 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
Message-ID: <E1uZA6x-000000068i7-2PAs@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

That?s the marine head layout from General Boats.  Pretty cool huh?  Don?t know how many they made.

Peter

[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]


From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Wed Jul  9 10:47:40 2025
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 10:47:40 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <CABvjUT1Y79ttDF_Kzyjo9=jouLOgqJepgwkKTLMHMjchz9dwpA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABvjUT1Y79ttDF_Kzyjo9=jouLOgqJepgwkKTLMHMjchz9dwpA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <588EAC62-F90F-46C1-B93A-59C415CDCA51@gmail.com>

Hey Jim. I can?t find a link. Can you re post it? Thanks!
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2025, at 9:18?AM, Kenwood _ <kenwood364 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Wow that bathroom layout and hatch in the roof is super different compared
> to mine. Is that all custom? I kinda wanna copy that. I just have a big
> divider and a curtain. No roof hatch either.
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 6:23?AM Jim Connolly via Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 

From jbconnolly at comcast.net  Wed Jul  9 11:20:45 2025
From: jbconnolly at comcast.net (Jim Connolly)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 11:20:45 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <588EAC62-F90F-46C1-B93A-59C415CDCA51@gmail.com>
References: <CABvjUT1Y79ttDF_Kzyjo9=jouLOgqJepgwkKTLMHMjchz9dwpA@mail.gmail.com>,
 <588EAC62-F90F-46C1-B93A-59C415CDCA51@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D39491D8-EB55-5F43-899C-53FE1803A63A@hxcore.ol>


From jbconnolly at comcast.net  Wed Jul  9 11:48:44 2025
From: jbconnolly at comcast.net (Jim Connolly)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 11:48:44 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <588EAC62-F90F-46C1-B93A-59C415CDCA51@gmail.com>
References: <CABvjUT1Y79ttDF_Kzyjo9=jouLOgqJepgwkKTLMHMjchz9dwpA@mail.gmail.com>,
 <588EAC62-F90F-46C1-B93A-59C415CDCA51@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <102E889A-D0C9-3747-8B1F-572FDE4668F2@hxcore.ol>


From kenwood364 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  9 12:58:40 2025
From: kenwood364 at gmail.com (Kenwood _)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 12:58:40 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <E1uZA6x-000000068i7-2PAs@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
References: <E1uZA6x-000000068i7-2PAs@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
Message-ID: <CABvjUT1oiX-DJVOT7Qb_Xe+ptQmkW5y9FQzNqPA7hWN47ws-HQ@mail.gmail.com>

I might copy it :)

On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 5:18?PM peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> That?s the marine head layout from General Boats.  Pretty cool huh?  Don?t
> know how many they made.
>
> Peter
>
> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>
>

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Wed Jul  9 14:30:43 2025
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 14:30:43 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <CABvjUT1oiX-DJVOT7Qb_Xe+ptQmkW5y9FQzNqPA7hWN47ws-HQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABvjUT1oiX-DJVOT7Qb_Xe+ptQmkW5y9FQzNqPA7hWN47ws-HQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <924DD41C-6CFD-4307-BE49-64180348C417@gmail.com>

Bummer,  
Is there a link you might copy and paste in the text body?
Chris
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2025, at 1:38?PM, Kenwood _ <kenwood364 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I might copy it :)
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 5:18?PM peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> That?s the marine head layout from General Boats.  Pretty cool huh?  Don?t
>> know how many they made.
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>> 
>> 

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Wed Jul  9 14:39:57 2025
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 14:39:57 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <924DD41C-6CFD-4307-BE49-64180348C417@gmail.com>
References: <CABvjUT1oiX-DJVOT7Qb_Xe+ptQmkW5y9FQzNqPA7hWN47ws-HQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <924DD41C-6CFD-4307-BE49-64180348C417@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002501dbf100$df647b80$9e2d7280$@ebsmed.com>

Is this what you are looking for?
http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20250702/a900d8ad/attachment.pdf

It is a pdf.

It was included in the original post (from our archives) at:
http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2025-July/093208.html

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY
I?d rather be sailing :~)

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis
Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2025 2:31 PM
To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME

Bummer,
Is there a link you might copy and paste in the text body?
Chris
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2025, at 1:38?PM, Kenwood _ <kenwood364 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I might copy it :)
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 5:18?PM peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list < 
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> That?s the marine head layout from General Boats.  Pretty cool huh?  
>> Don?t know how many they made.
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>> 
>> 


From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Thu Jul 10 08:55:40 2025
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 08:55:40 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
In-Reply-To: <002501dbf100$df647b80$9e2d7280$@ebsmed.com>
References: <002501dbf100$df647b80$9e2d7280$@ebsmed.com>
Message-ID: <B9131F47-F6A9-4B4D-A46F-DB2AD69BB809@gmail.com>

Yes, thanks so much. Of course at that price it sold quickly to a very lucky sailor. 
Chris G
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2025, at 2:48?PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Is this what you are looking for?
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20250702/a900d8ad/attachment.pdf
> 
> It is a pdf.
> 
> It was included in the original post (from our archives) at:
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2025-July/093208.html
> 
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> I?d rather be sailing :~)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis
> Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2025 2:31 PM
> To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] OK FRIENDS, THIS BOAT NEEDS A HOME
> 
> Bummer,
> Is there a link you might copy and paste in the text body?
> Chris
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2025, at 1:38?PM, Kenwood _ <kenwood364 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?I might copy it :)
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 5:18?PM peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That?s the marine head layout from General Boats.  Pretty cool huh?  
>>> Don?t know how many they made.
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>>> 
>>> 
> 

From lvjkuhn at gmail.com  Fri Jul 11 19:39:54 2025
From: lvjkuhn at gmail.com (Lee Kuhn)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2025 19:39:54 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject)
Message-ID: <CAPgvAEk0xGrO5zbe84ywCgyQXooeoz3WY1fSdz3OmwEtyk75xg@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20250702/a900d8ad/attachment.pdf&source=gmail&ust=1752349383954000&usg=AOvVaw2nbYfzAHEL5xfzckoef_Fp

From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 12:12:06 2025
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2025 12:12:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Selling a boat through boatsfsbo.com
In-Reply-To: <102E889A-D0C9-3747-8B1F-572FDE4668F2@hxcore.ol>
References: <CABvjUT1Y79ttDF_Kzyjo9=jouLOgqJepgwkKTLMHMjchz9dwpA@mail.gmail.com>
 <588EAC62-F90F-46C1-B93A-59C415CDCA51@gmail.com>
 <102E889A-D0C9-3747-8B1F-572FDE4668F2@hxcore.ol>
Message-ID: <D7DF48AA-4B6C-45A2-8ACA-A99BC1CDE97C@gmail.com>

Listmates, 

As you may recall, I am selling my Rhodes.  I have received a couple of calls from folks at  <https://www.boatsfsbogo.com/index.html>BoatsFSBO.com <http://boatsfsbo.com/>.   They want me to pay a fee (something like $400) to list my boat on their site.  They seem pretty aggressive, wanting to convince me to sign up immediately, something that always raises a red flag with me.  

Anyone have any experience with that outfit?  Any recommendations of good places to list sailboats?  

Thanks,

Frank

Frank Goldsmith
S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
Fairview, NC
Lake Keowee, SC



From thyatt at mica.edu  Sun Jul 13 12:32:30 2025
From: thyatt at mica.edu (Tom Hyatt)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2025 12:32:30 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Selling a boat through boatsfsbo.com
In-Reply-To: <D7DF48AA-4B6C-45A2-8ACA-A99BC1CDE97C@gmail.com>
References: <CABvjUT1Y79ttDF_Kzyjo9=jouLOgqJepgwkKTLMHMjchz9dwpA@mail.gmail.com>
 <588EAC62-F90F-46C1-B93A-59C415CDCA51@gmail.com>
 <102E889A-D0C9-3747-8B1F-572FDE4668F2@hxcore.ol>
 <D7DF48AA-4B6C-45A2-8ACA-A99BC1CDE97C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEhtY2+Sc76fAfk7Y6m_4BPsX4g7G=9RoALn-sfiuxqqKCna4w@mail.gmail.com>

I just sold a boat yesterday which I advertised on Craigslist for free. So
I don?t think I would pay to put my boat on a site with a price tag that
high when there are free sites that are super well-known and have a lot of
traffic. Just my 2 cents.

Tom Hyatt
S/V Eliza Jane 1978

On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 12:12 PM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Listmates,
>
> As you may recall, I am selling my Rhodes.  I have received a couple of
> calls from folks at  <https://www.boatsfsbogo.com/index.html>BoatsFSBO.com
> <http://boatsfsbo.com/>.   They want me to pay a fee (something like
> $400) to list my boat on their site.  They seem pretty aggressive, wanting
> to convince me to sign up immediately, something that always raises a red
> flag with me.
>
> Anyone have any experience with that outfit?  Any recommendations of good
> places to list sailboats?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Frank
>
> Frank Goldsmith
> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
> Fairview, NC
> Lake Keowee, SC
>
>
>

From snstaum at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 12:36:48 2025
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2025 12:36:48 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Selling a boat through boatsfsbo.com
In-Reply-To: <D7DF48AA-4B6C-45A2-8ACA-A99BC1CDE97C@gmail.com>
References: <CABvjUT1Y79ttDF_Kzyjo9=jouLOgqJepgwkKTLMHMjchz9dwpA@mail.gmail.com>
 <588EAC62-F90F-46C1-B93A-59C415CDCA51@gmail.com>
 <102E889A-D0C9-3747-8B1F-572FDE4668F2@hxcore.ol>
 <D7DF48AA-4B6C-45A2-8ACA-A99BC1CDE97C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOo_FjcVM9Bz9Foe9vVEvFSj=s0bWtuK1NVP1KzNks9tLGdeSw@mail.gmail.com>

I don't think you need to pay a fee to sell your boat.  I sold my last
Rhodes 22 on a free on-line service called Craigslist.  You can often get
hits right here on the Rhodes list.  Often non-owners looking for a Rhodes
are lurking in the background.

Good luck!


*Thanks and Stay Well,*

*Stephen Staum*

*(781) 704-1037*



On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 12:12?PM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Listmates,
>
> As you may recall, I am selling my Rhodes.  I have received a couple of
> calls from folks at  <https://www.boatsfsbogo.com/index.html>BoatsFSBO.com
> <http://boatsfsbo.com/>.   They want me to pay a fee (something like
> $400) to list my boat on their site.  They seem pretty aggressive, wanting
> to convince me to sign up immediately, something that always raises a red
> flag with me.
>
> Anyone have any experience with that outfit?  Any recommendations of good
> places to list sailboats?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Frank
>
> Frank Goldsmith
> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
> Fairview, NC
> Lake Keowee, SC
>
>
>

From tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com  Sun Jul 13 13:07:44 2025
From: tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com (Tom Van Heule)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2025 12:07:44 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Selling a boat through boatsfsbo.com
In-Reply-To: <CAOo_FjcVM9Bz9Foe9vVEvFSj=s0bWtuK1NVP1KzNks9tLGdeSw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABvjUT1Y79ttDF_Kzyjo9=jouLOgqJepgwkKTLMHMjchz9dwpA@mail.gmail.com>
 <588EAC62-F90F-46C1-B93A-59C415CDCA51@gmail.com>
 <102E889A-D0C9-3747-8B1F-572FDE4668F2@hxcore.ol>
 <D7DF48AA-4B6C-45A2-8ACA-A99BC1CDE97C@gmail.com>
 <CAOo_FjcVM9Bz9Foe9vVEvFSj=s0bWtuK1NVP1KzNks9tLGdeSw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEqJHY4MJLJkdp=Ts63=Z24HoBUfnBM-mpsZhy1iNW+gpfv7hQ@mail.gmail.com>

Might make sense to spend $400 if the boat was 100k+, only if you can't
market it on Facebook or Craigslist or here?

Tom Van Heule
Intrinsic Programs
tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com
+1 303 525 5266

On Sun, Jul 13, 2025, 11:37 AM Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't think you need to pay a fee to sell your boat.  I sold my last
> Rhodes 22 on a free on-line service called Craigslist.  You can often get
> hits right here on the Rhodes list.  Often non-owners looking for a Rhodes
> are lurking in the background.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
> *Thanks and Stay Well,*
>
> *Stephen Staum*
>
> *(781) 704-1037*
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 12:12?PM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Listmates,
> >
> > As you may recall, I am selling my Rhodes.  I have received a couple of
> > calls from folks at  <https://www.boatsfsbogo.com/index.html
> >BoatsFSBO.com
> > <http://boatsfsbo.com/>.   They want me to pay a fee (something like
> > $400) to list my boat on their site.  They seem pretty aggressive,
> wanting
> > to convince me to sign up immediately, something that always raises a red
> > flag with me.
> >
> > Anyone have any experience with that outfit?  Any recommendations of good
> > places to list sailboats?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > Frank Goldsmith
> > S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
> > Fairview, NC
> > Lake Keowee, SC
> >
> >
> >
>

From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 13:21:23 2025
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2025 13:21:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Selling a boat through boatsfsbo.com
In-Reply-To: <CAOo_FjcVM9Bz9Foe9vVEvFSj=s0bWtuK1NVP1KzNks9tLGdeSw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABvjUT1Y79ttDF_Kzyjo9=jouLOgqJepgwkKTLMHMjchz9dwpA@mail.gmail.com>
 <588EAC62-F90F-46C1-B93A-59C415CDCA51@gmail.com>
 <102E889A-D0C9-3747-8B1F-572FDE4668F2@hxcore.ol>
 <D7DF48AA-4B6C-45A2-8ACA-A99BC1CDE97C@gmail.com>
 <CAOo_FjcVM9Bz9Foe9vVEvFSj=s0bWtuK1NVP1KzNks9tLGdeSw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010BDEB0-63DB-4BF9-83F5-365B34ECBF50@gmail.com>

Thanks, Tom and Stephen.  That makes sense to me.  I have sold a canoe on Craigslist before, and it may have been how I sold my Laser years ago ? can?t remember.  Some folks have also recommended Facebook Marketplace.  

I appreciate the advice,

Frank


> On Jul 13, 2025, at 12:36?PM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't think you need to pay a fee to sell your boat.  I sold my last
> Rhodes 22 on a free on-line service called Craigslist.  You can often get
> hits right here on the Rhodes list.  Often non-owners looking for a Rhodes
> are lurking in the background.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> 
> *Thanks and Stay Well,*
> 
> *Stephen Staum*
> 
> *(781) 704-1037*
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 12:12?PM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Listmates,
>> 
>> As you may recall, I am selling my Rhodes.  I have received a couple of
>> calls from folks at  <https://www.boatsfsbogo.com/index.html>BoatsFSBO.com
>> <http://boatsfsbo.com/>.   They want me to pay a fee (something like
>> $400) to list my boat on their site.  They seem pretty aggressive, wanting
>> to convince me to sign up immediately, something that always raises a red
>> flag with me.
>> 
>> Anyone have any experience with that outfit?  Any recommendations of good
>> places to list sailboats?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Frank
>> 
>> Frank Goldsmith
>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
>> Fairview, NC
>> Lake Keowee, SC
>> 
>> 
>> 


From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 21:49:37 2025
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2025 21:49:37 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Selling a boat through boatsfsbo.com
In-Reply-To: <CAEqJHY4MJLJkdp=Ts63=Z24HoBUfnBM-mpsZhy1iNW+gpfv7hQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEqJHY4MJLJkdp=Ts63=Z24HoBUfnBM-mpsZhy1iNW+gpfv7hQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0AD28709-3C10-48D3-8C46-E6661434B0E3@gmail.com>

I ran a search for 20-24 foot sail boats on their list. They only had 9 boats, no wonder they are so desperate to have more inventory. Also advertising ?no commission? but you pay $400 is misleading. I wouldn?t use them either. 
Chris Geankoplis. Ps so give us your boat?s particulars   
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 13, 2025, at 1:23?PM, Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Might make sense to spend $400 if the boat was 100k+, only if you can't
> market it on Facebook or Craigslist or here?
> 
> Tom Van Heule
> Intrinsic Programs
> tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com
> +1 303 525 5266
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2025, 11:37 AM Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think you need to pay a fee to sell your boat.  I sold my last
>> Rhodes 22 on a free on-line service called Craigslist.  You can often get
>> hits right here on the Rhodes list.  Often non-owners looking for a Rhodes
>> are lurking in the background.
>> 
>> Good luck!
>> 
>> 
>> *Thanks and Stay Well,*
>> 
>> *Stephen Staum*
>> 
>> *(781) 704-1037*
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 12:12?PM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Listmates,
>>> 
>>> As you may recall, I am selling my Rhodes.  I have received a couple of
>>> calls from folks at  <https://www.boatsfsbogo.com/index.html
>>> BoatsFSBO.com
>>> <http://boatsfsbo.com/>.   They want me to pay a fee (something like
>>> $400) to list my boat on their site.  They seem pretty aggressive,
>> wanting
>>> to convince me to sign up immediately, something that always raises a red
>>> flag with me.
>>> 
>>> Anyone have any experience with that outfit?  Any recommendations of good
>>> places to list sailboats?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Frank
>>> 
>>> Frank Goldsmith
>>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
>>> Fairview, NC
>>> Lake Keowee, SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 

From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Jul 14 07:24:16 2025
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2025 07:24:16 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Selling a boat through boatsfsbo.com
In-Reply-To: <0AD28709-3C10-48D3-8C46-E6661434B0E3@gmail.com>
References: <0AD28709-3C10-48D3-8C46-E6661434B0E3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <17D37DFA-6882-4FB7-8DD2-548FECDAE701@stottarchitecture.com>

Yes please provide more info on Mary Bess. I know a few folks who might be interested. 
Ric 

Dadventure.  
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 13, 2025, at 9:49?PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I ran a search for 20-24 foot sail boats on their list. They only had 9 boats, no wonder they are so desperate to have more inventory. Also advertising ?no commission? but you pay $400 is misleading. I wouldn?t use them either.
> Chris Geankoplis. Ps so give us your boat?s particulars   
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 13, 2025, at 1:23?PM, Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Might make sense to spend $400 if the boat was 100k+, only if you can't
>> market it on Facebook or Craigslist or here?
>> 
>> Tom Van Heule
>> Intrinsic Programs
>> tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com
>> +1 303 525 5266
>> 
>>>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2025, 11:37 AM Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't think you need to pay a fee to sell your boat.  I sold my last
>>> Rhodes 22 on a free on-line service called Craigslist.  You can often get
>>> hits right here on the Rhodes list.  Often non-owners looking for a Rhodes
>>> are lurking in the background.
>>> 
>>> Good luck!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *Thanks and Stay Well,*
>>> 
>>> *Stephen Staum*
>>> 
>>> *(781) 704-1037*
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 12:12?PM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Listmates,
>>>> 
>>>> As you may recall, I am selling my Rhodes.  I have received a couple of
>>>> calls from folks at  <https://www.boatsfsbogo.com/index.html
>>>> BoatsFSBO.com
>>>> <http://boatsfsbo.com/>.   They want me to pay a fee (something like
>>>> $400) to list my boat on their site.  They seem pretty aggressive,
>>> wanting
>>>> to convince me to sign up immediately, something that always raises a red
>>>> flag with me.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone have any experience with that outfit?  Any recommendations of good
>>>> places to list sailboats?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Frank
>>>> 
>>>> Frank Goldsmith
>>>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
>>>> Fairview, NC
>>>> Lake Keowee, SC
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 

From lvjkuhn at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 07:49:19 2025
From: lvjkuhn at gmail.com (Lee Kuhn)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2025 07:49:19 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Selling a boat through boatsfsbo.com
In-Reply-To: <CAEhtY2+Sc76fAfk7Y6m_4BPsX4g7G=9RoALn-sfiuxqqKCna4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABvjUT1Y79ttDF_Kzyjo9=jouLOgqJepgwkKTLMHMjchz9dwpA@mail.gmail.com>
 <588EAC62-F90F-46C1-B93A-59C415CDCA51@gmail.com>
 <102E889A-D0C9-3747-8B1F-572FDE4668F2@hxcore.ol>
 <D7DF48AA-4B6C-45A2-8ACA-A99BC1CDE97C@gmail.com>
 <CAEhtY2+Sc76fAfk7Y6m_4BPsX4g7G=9RoALn-sfiuxqqKCna4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPgvAEmUzW0OTnCYocvu1z72vHs2=9bJsKUbNSD==RfDPdbV7A@mail.gmail.com>

Sailboatlistings.com

No fee unless you'd like to pay $45 to have your boat featured

On Sun, Jul 13, 2025, 12:32 PM Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I just sold a boat yesterday which I advertised on Craigslist for free. So
> I don?t think I would pay to put my boat on a site with a price tag that
> high when there are free sites that are super well-known and have a lot of
> traffic. Just my 2 cents.
>
> Tom Hyatt
> S/V Eliza Jane 1978
>
> On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 12:12 PM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Listmates,
> >
> > As you may recall, I am selling my Rhodes.  I have received a couple of
> > calls from folks at  <https://www.boatsfsbogo.com/index.html
> >BoatsFSBO.com
> > <http://boatsfsbo.com/>.   They want me to pay a fee (something like
> > $400) to list my boat on their site.  They seem pretty aggressive,
> wanting
> > to convince me to sign up immediately, something that always raises a red
> > flag with me.
> >
> > Anyone have any experience with that outfit?  Any recommendations of good
> > places to list sailboats?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > Frank Goldsmith
> > S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
> > Fairview, NC
> > Lake Keowee, SC
> >
> >
> >
>

From cknell at vt.edu  Tue Jul 15 12:39:22 2025
From: cknell at vt.edu (Chris on LBI)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 12:39:22 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Clevis Pin Source
Message-ID: <c306c96d-c47e-461a-80c9-e8bca88f2fb6@vt.edu>

Hey all,
Can anyone recommend a good source for clevis pins for the Rhodes 
rigging? I lost a 1/8 x 1" pin and I am frustrated that I can't seem to 
find a replacement for less than $16 plus shipping. I need 316 stainless 
since I'm in saltwater.
Thanks,
Chris


From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Tue Jul 15 13:52:50 2025
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 13:52:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Clevis Pin Source
In-Reply-To: <c306c96d-c47e-461a-80c9-e8bca88f2fb6@vt.edu>
References: <c306c96d-c47e-461a-80c9-e8bca88f2fb6@vt.edu>
Message-ID: <005201dbf5b1$48d819a0$da884ce0$@ebsmed.com>

I looked up "fast pin sailing" on Amazon and found many in the $5-6 range for several pins. Are you sure that it is 1/8" diameter? Most are 3/16" or 1/4" diameter.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY
I?d rather be sailing :~)

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Chris on LBI
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2025 12:39 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Clevis Pin Source

Hey all,
Can anyone recommend a good source for clevis pins for the Rhodes rigging? I lost a 1/8 x 1" pin and I am frustrated that I can't seem to find a replacement for less than $16 plus shipping. I need 316 stainless since I'm in saltwater.
Thanks,
Chris


From pbryanriley at gmail.com  Wed Jul 16 08:45:43 2025
From: pbryanriley at gmail.com (PBR)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 08:45:43 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Clevis Pin Source
In-Reply-To: <005201dbf5b1$48d819a0$da884ce0$@ebsmed.com>
References: <c306c96d-c47e-461a-80c9-e8bca88f2fb6@vt.edu>
 <005201dbf5b1$48d819a0$da884ce0$@ebsmed.com>
Message-ID: <CAJGJx+AnOTb38D-b7bEa23VmV8ec0FRWye3XZrY+jifwVbtdEg@mail.gmail.com>

I have purchased them from West Marine in the store.  1/8 does sound a
little small.  I think my shrouds are 3/16 but can't confirm RN.

On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 1:58?PM Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
wrote:

> I looked up "fast pin sailing" on Amazon and found many in the $5-6 range
> for several pins. Are you sure that it is 1/8" diameter? Most are 3/16" or
> 1/4" diameter.
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> I?d rather be sailing :~)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Chris on LBI
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2025 12:39 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Clevis Pin Source
>
> Hey all,
> Can anyone recommend a good source for clevis pins for the Rhodes rigging?
> I lost a 1/8 x 1" pin and I am frustrated that I can't seem to find a
> replacement for less than $16 plus shipping. I need 316 stainless since I'm
> in saltwater.
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>

From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Wed Jul 16 10:08:58 2025
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 10:08:58 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Selling a boat through boatsfsbo.com
In-Reply-To: <CAPgvAEmUzW0OTnCYocvu1z72vHs2=9bJsKUbNSD==RfDPdbV7A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABvjUT1Y79ttDF_Kzyjo9=jouLOgqJepgwkKTLMHMjchz9dwpA@mail.gmail.com>
 <588EAC62-F90F-46C1-B93A-59C415CDCA51@gmail.com>
 <102E889A-D0C9-3747-8B1F-572FDE4668F2@hxcore.ol>
 <D7DF48AA-4B6C-45A2-8ACA-A99BC1CDE97C@gmail.com>
 <CAEhtY2+Sc76fAfk7Y6m_4BPsX4g7G=9RoALn-sfiuxqqKCna4w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPgvAEmUzW0OTnCYocvu1z72vHs2=9bJsKUbNSD==RfDPdbV7A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6C6648D3-BA13-44E1-AC6A-471E4EC2CA4D@gmail.com>

Thanks.  I have my boat listed there already.  Hope it gets some inquiries!  I?ll also try Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace.  

Frank

> On Jul 14, 2025, at 7:49?AM, Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Sailboatlistings.com
> 
> No fee unless you'd like to pay $45 to have your boat featured
> 
> On Sun, Jul 13, 2025, 12:32 PM Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
>> I just sold a boat yesterday which I advertised on Craigslist for free. So
>> I don?t think I would pay to put my boat on a site with a price tag that
>> high when there are free sites that are super well-known and have a lot of
>> traffic. Just my 2 cents.
>> 
>> Tom Hyatt
>> S/V Eliza Jane 1978
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 12:12 PM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Listmates,
>>> 
>>> As you may recall, I am selling my Rhodes.  I have received a couple of
>>> calls from folks at  <https://www.boatsfsbogo.com/index.html
>>> BoatsFSBO.com
>>> <http://boatsfsbo.com/>.   They want me to pay a fee (something like
>>> $400) to list my boat on their site.  They seem pretty aggressive,
>> wanting
>>> to convince me to sign up immediately, something that always raises a red
>>> flag with me.
>>> 
>>> Anyone have any experience with that outfit?  Any recommendations of good
>>> places to list sailboats?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Frank
>>> 
>>> Frank Goldsmith
>>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
>>> Fairview, NC
>>> Lake Keowee, SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 


From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Wed Jul 16 10:17:06 2025
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 10:17:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Selling a boat through boatsfsbo.com
In-Reply-To: <17D37DFA-6882-4FB7-8DD2-548FECDAE701@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <0AD28709-3C10-48D3-8C46-E6661434B0E3@gmail.com>
 <17D37DFA-6882-4FB7-8DD2-548FECDAE701@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <24EF8C31-E874-4165-8C86-3384545265AA@gmail.com>

Ric and Chris,

Sure, happy to do that.  S/V Mary Bess (named for my mother, at my daughter?s suggestion) is a 1985 Rhodes, refurbished in 2001 according to what the previous owner told me.  I have owned her since 2015.  I put new sails on her in 2021 (Sobstad) and in 2022 switched from a gasoline outboard to a Torqeedo electric motor, which works great on the lake where we sail.  The trailer has new tires (including spare) and the wiring was recently refurbished.  I am asking $9500.  I?ll attach a PDF ad with a photo (hope it comes through).  The canvas hatch, window, and Bimini covers do not appear in the photo.  

Best,

Frank

Frank Goldsmith
S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
Fairview, NC
Lake Keowee, SC

?


> On Jul 14, 2025, at 7:24?AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes please provide more info on Mary Bess. I know a few folks who might be interested. 
> Ric 
> 
> Dadventure.  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 13, 2025, at 9:49?PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?I ran a search for 20-24 foot sail boats on their list. They only had 9 boats, no wonder they are so desperate to have more inventory. Also advertising ?no commission? but you pay $400 is misleading. I wouldn?t use them either.
>> Chris Geankoplis. Ps so give us your boat?s particulars   
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2025, at 1:23?PM, Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Might make sense to spend $400 if the boat was 100k+, only if you can't
>>> market it on Facebook or Craigslist or here?
>>> 
>>> Tom Van Heule
>>> Intrinsic Programs
>>> tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com
>>> +1 303 525 5266
>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2025, 11:37 AM Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think you need to pay a fee to sell your boat.  I sold my last
>>>> Rhodes 22 on a free on-line service called Craigslist.  You can often get
>>>> hits right here on the Rhodes list.  Often non-owners looking for a Rhodes
>>>> are lurking in the background.
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *Thanks and Stay Well,*
>>>> 
>>>> *Stephen Staum*
>>>> 
>>>> *(781) 704-1037*
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 12:12?PM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Listmates,
>>>>> 
>>>>> As you may recall, I am selling my Rhodes.  I have received a couple of
>>>>> calls from folks at  <https://www.boatsfsbogo.com/index.html
>>>>> BoatsFSBO.com
>>>>> <http://boatsfsbo.com/>.   They want me to pay a fee (something like
>>>>> $400) to list my boat on their site.  They seem pretty aggressive,
>>>> wanting
>>>>> to convince me to sign up immediately, something that always raises a red
>>>>> flag with me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone have any experience with that outfit?  Any recommendations of good
>>>>> places to list sailboats?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Frank
>>>>> 
>>>>> Frank Goldsmith
>>>>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
>>>>> Fairview, NC
>>>>> Lake Keowee, SC
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 


From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Wed Jul 16 10:17:06 2025
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 10:17:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Selling a boat through boatsfsbo.com
In-Reply-To: <17D37DFA-6882-4FB7-8DD2-548FECDAE701@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <0AD28709-3C10-48D3-8C46-E6661434B0E3@gmail.com>
 <17D37DFA-6882-4FB7-8DD2-548FECDAE701@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <24EF8C31-E874-4165-8C86-3384545265AA@gmail.com>

Ric and Chris,

Sure, happy to do that.  S/V Mary Bess (named for my mother, at my daughter?s suggestion) is a 1985 Rhodes, refurbished in 2001 according to what the previous owner told me.  I have owned her since 2015.  I put new sails on her in 2021 (Sobstad) and in 2022 switched from a gasoline outboard to a Torqeedo electric motor, which works great on the lake where we sail.  The trailer has new tires (including spare) and the wiring was recently refurbished.  I am asking $9500.  I?ll attach a PDF ad with a photo (hope it comes through).  The canvas hatch, window, and Bimini covers do not appear in the photo.  

Best,

Frank

Frank Goldsmith
S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
Fairview, NC
Lake Keowee, SC

?


> On Jul 14, 2025, at 7:24?AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes please provide more info on Mary Bess. I know a few folks who might be interested. 
> Ric 
> 
> Dadventure.  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 13, 2025, at 9:49?PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?I ran a search for 20-24 foot sail boats on their list. They only had 9 boats, no wonder they are so desperate to have more inventory. Also advertising ?no commission? but you pay $400 is misleading. I wouldn?t use them either.
>> Chris Geankoplis. Ps so give us your boat?s particulars   
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2025, at 1:23?PM, Tom Van Heule <tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Might make sense to spend $400 if the boat was 100k+, only if you can't
>>> market it on Facebook or Craigslist or here?
>>> 
>>> Tom Van Heule
>>> Intrinsic Programs
>>> tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com
>>> +1 303 525 5266
>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2025, 11:37 AM Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think you need to pay a fee to sell your boat.  I sold my last
>>>> Rhodes 22 on a free on-line service called Craigslist.  You can often get
>>>> hits right here on the Rhodes list.  Often non-owners looking for a Rhodes
>>>> are lurking in the background.
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *Thanks and Stay Well,*
>>>> 
>>>> *Stephen Staum*
>>>> 
>>>> *(781) 704-1037*
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 12:12?PM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Listmates,
>>>>> 
>>>>> As you may recall, I am selling my Rhodes.  I have received a couple of
>>>>> calls from folks at  <https://www.boatsfsbogo.com/index.html
>>>>> BoatsFSBO.com
>>>>> <http://boatsfsbo.com/>.   They want me to pay a fee (something like
>>>>> $400) to list my boat on their site.  They seem pretty aggressive,
>>>> wanting
>>>>> to convince me to sign up immediately, something that always raises a red
>>>>> flag with me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone have any experience with that outfit?  Any recommendations of good
>>>>> places to list sailboats?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Frank
>>>>> 
>>>>> Frank Goldsmith
>>>>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
>>>>> Fairview, NC
>>>>> Lake Keowee, SC
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 


From kenwood364 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 20 11:42:56 2025
From: kenwood364 at gmail.com (Kenwood _)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2025 11:42:56 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lifting and Jacking the Rhodes
Message-ID: <CABvjUT3rNU6OKWbt6xfoFE2DO+6s3HGR+JgLSefS9BQ-DfDq5w@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all!
I'm planning on lifting and jacking my rhodes up on blocks and boat jacks.
Boatyard style. This is my first time taking a boat as big as the rhodes
off its trailer and doing this. We're planning some major trailer service
and thats whats bringing this about. Its illegal in my state to moor or
anchor overnight and the few places that rent legal moorings are extremely
sought after, so, jacking is our option.

I can lift the boat off the trailer but for placement on the ground i was
thinking to block under the keel and use short boat stands front and rear,
then much taller stands all around to keep the boat upright. Is this plan
correct? Anyone have tips? Would very much love to hear thank you!

From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Jul 21 09:52:21 2025
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 09:52:21 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lifting and Jacking the Rhodes
In-Reply-To: <CABvjUT3rNU6OKWbt6xfoFE2DO+6s3HGR+JgLSefS9BQ-DfDq5w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABvjUT3rNU6OKWbt6xfoFE2DO+6s3HGR+JgLSefS9BQ-DfDq5w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C5C59A72-B506-477D-B915-5B62BB4D8803@stottarchitecture.com>

It?s tricky.
I  have used a number of ways to lift the bow so the trailer can be pulled out and replaced. 
This year (would have been the 4th season on the bottom paint) I used a friends fork- lift- it worked great. 
In the past I have used a gantry that I built out or 5/4 x 6 & plywood with a 4 x 8 pressure treated girder across the top and a 3 ton come-a-long.
I built the parts, put it together lying on the ground, then pulled it up with a line while standing on the bow after staking the bottom to the ground so it would not slide. 
If you afraid of heights - this method is not for you. 
I worked this all single handed and it wasn?t tooo difficult, but my aging back is making it impossible to do that these days, especially by myself..  
The fork lift was much easier. . . 
When I used the gantry, I left it in place.  My friend had to take his toy away so I didn?t have the fork-lift for back up. 
I use the bow ring to lift the bow, but I had recently rebelt the baking so I knew it was very strong - always know what is behind the thing you are fighting from. 
Anyway, 3 jacks initially, two in the stern and one just forward of the keel- so there is nothing in the way of the trailer wheels. 
Then (this is not shown) add one  jack on each side, about midship, for stability, for a total of 5 jacks while you are working  on the boat. 
The two amidship can be moved  fore and aft while you are sanding and painting. 
The two in the stern and one forward of the keel, are left in place and those three spots are sanded and painted once the boat is back on the trailer. 
Always, be extra safe and careful. I had the boat fall off the  jacks once when I was jacking it with a hydraulic jack and a 4 x 4  without the Gantry or Fork lift. 
It scared the shit out of me, so now I?m always super careful and take my time for every action when I?m moving the boat. 
Fortunately, I didn?t get hurt and neither did Dadventure. 
Good luck in your adventure. 
Ric 
SV Dadventure 
Hampton Bays, NY  

> On Jul 20, 2025, at 11:42 AM, Kenwood _ <kenwood364 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
?

?



?






> Hey all!
> I'm planning on lifting and jacking my rhodes up on blocks and boat jacks.
> Boatyard style. This is my first time taking a boat as big as the rhodes
> off its trailer and doing this. We're planning some major trailer service
> and thats whats bringing this about. Its illegal in my state to moor or
> anchor overnight and the few places that rent legal moorings are extremely
> sought after, so, jacking is our option.
> 
> I can lift the boat off the trailer but for placement on the ground i was
> thinking to block under the keel and use short boat stands front and rear,
> then much taller stands all around to keep the boat upright. Is this plan
> correct? Anyone have tips? Would very much love to hear thank you!

Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
ric at stottarchitecture.com
C- 516-965-3164



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From jbuhrmann at gmail.com  Mon Jul 21 10:24:12 2025
From: jbuhrmann at gmail.com (John Buhrmann)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 10:24:12 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lifting and Jacking the Rhodes
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We had a similar collapse and switch to gantry. You can see the adventure
here:

https://svcalliope.wordpress.com/2025/03/23/rhodes-22/

On Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 9:59?AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:

> It?s tricky.
> I  have used a number of ways to lift the bow so the trailer can be pulled
> out and replaced.
> This year (would have been the 4th season on the bottom paint) I used a
> friends fork- lift- it worked great.
> In the past I have used a gantry that I built out or 5/4 x 6 & plywood
> with a 4 x 8 pressure treated girder across the top and a 3 ton come-a-long.
> I built the parts, put it together lying on the ground, then pulled it up
> with a line while standing on the bow after staking the bottom to the
> ground so it would not slide.
> If you afraid of heights - this method is not for you.
> I worked this all single handed and it wasn?t tooo difficult, but my aging
> back is making it impossible to do that these days, especially by myself..
> The fork lift was much easier. . .
> When I used the gantry, I left it in place.  My friend had to take his toy
> away so I didn?t have the fork-lift for back up.
> I use the bow ring to lift the bow, but I had recently rebelt the baking
> so I knew it was very strong - always know what is behind the thing you are
> fighting from.
> Anyway, 3 jacks initially, two in the stern and one just forward of the
> keel- so there is nothing in the way of the trailer wheels.
> Then (this is not shown) add one  jack on each side, about midship, for
> stability, for a total of 5 jacks while you are working  on the boat.
> The two amidship can be moved  fore and aft while you are sanding and
> painting.
> The two in the stern and one forward of the keel, are left in place and
> those three spots are sanded and painted once the boat is back on the
> trailer.
> Always, be extra safe and careful. I had the boat fall off the  jacks once
> when I was jacking it with a hydraulic jack and a 4 x 4  without the Gantry
> or Fork lift.
> It scared the shit out of me, so now I?m always super careful and take my
> time for every action when I?m moving the boat.
> Fortunately, I didn?t get hurt and neither did Dadventure.
> Good luck in your adventure.
> Ric
> SV Dadventure
> Hampton Bays, NY
>
> > On Jul 20, 2025, at 11:42 AM, Kenwood _ <kenwood364 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> ?
>
> ?
>
>
>
> ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hey all!
> > I'm planning on lifting and jacking my rhodes up on blocks and boat
> jacks.
> > Boatyard style. This is my first time taking a boat as big as the rhodes
> > off its trailer and doing this. We're planning some major trailer service
> > and thats whats bringing this about. Its illegal in my state to moor or
> > anchor overnight and the few places that rent legal moorings are
> extremely
> > sought after, so, jacking is our option.
> >
> > I can lift the boat off the trailer but for placement on the ground i was
> > thinking to block under the keel and use short boat stands front and
> rear,
> > then much taller stands all around to keep the boat upright. Is this plan
> > correct? Anyone have tips? Would very much love to hear thank you!
>
> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> C- 516-965-3164
>
>
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From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Mon Jul 21 10:51:26 2025
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 14:51:26 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lifting and Jacking the Rhodes
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Hi Ric,

If you look in the R22 archives, you will find a picture of my boat trailer with swiveling trailer jacks mounted on the frame of the trailer, port and starboard near the rear of the trailer.  Using these two jacks + the tongue jack will enable you to change a flat.  It also enables us to level the boat for use as a travel trailer.  We get the oddest looks in RV parks!  But, for your purpose it also enables the boat/trailer to be lifted, boat supported on jack stands, and then the trailer lowered out of the way for bottom painting or other maintenance.  You will need a dozen or so 4?x6?x24? wooden blocks to use as cribbing.

I will give you some precautions:

1. Always chain the jack stands together so they don?t slide outboard port and starboard.

2. If you are working on any surface but concrete, put a sheet of plywood under the jack stands so they don?t sink.

3.  Don?t locate the jack stand support pads on the hull any closer than 10? away from any thru hull fittings.

Good Luck!

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
1978. Sanford, MI
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2025, at 10:24?AM, John Buhrmann <jbuhrmann at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?We had a similar collapse and switch to gantry. You can see the adventure
> here:
>
> https://svcalliope.wordpress.com/2025/03/23/rhodes-22/
>
>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 9:59?AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>>
>> It?s tricky.
>> I  have used a number of ways to lift the bow so the trailer can be pulled
>> out and replaced.
>> This year (would have been the 4th season on the bottom paint) I used a
>> friends fork- lift- it worked great.
>> In the past I have used a gantry that I built out or 5/4 x 6 & plywood
>> with a 4 x 8 pressure treated girder across the top and a 3 ton come-a-long.
>> I built the parts, put it together lying on the ground, then pulled it up
>> with a line while standing on the bow after staking the bottom to the
>> ground so it would not slide.
>> If you afraid of heights - this method is not for you.
>> I worked this all single handed and it wasn?t tooo difficult, but my aging
>> back is making it impossible to do that these days, especially by myself..
>> The fork lift was much easier. . .
>> When I used the gantry, I left it in place.  My friend had to take his toy
>> away so I didn?t have the fork-lift for back up.
>> I use the bow ring to lift the bow, but I had recently rebelt the baking
>> so I knew it was very strong - always know what is behind the thing you are
>> fighting from.
>> Anyway, 3 jacks initially, two in the stern and one just forward of the
>> keel- so there is nothing in the way of the trailer wheels.
>> Then (this is not shown) add one  jack on each side, about midship, for
>> stability, for a total of 5 jacks while you are working  on the boat.
>> The two amidship can be moved  fore and aft while you are sanding and
>> painting.
>> The two in the stern and one forward of the keel, are left in place and
>> those three spots are sanded and painted once the boat is back on the
>> trailer.
>> Always, be extra safe and careful. I had the boat fall off the  jacks once
>> when I was jacking it with a hydraulic jack and a 4 x 4  without the Gantry
>> or Fork lift.
>> It scared the shit out of me, so now I?m always super careful and take my
>> time for every action when I?m moving the boat.
>> Fortunately, I didn?t get hurt and neither did Dadventure.
>> Good luck in your adventure.
>> Ric
>> SV Dadventure
>> Hampton Bays, NY
>>
>>>> On Jul 20, 2025, at 11:42 AM, Kenwood _ <kenwood364 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>> ?
>>
>> ?
>>
>>
>>
>> ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hey all!
>>> I'm planning on lifting and jacking my rhodes up on blocks and boat
>> jacks.
>>> Boatyard style. This is my first time taking a boat as big as the rhodes
>>> off its trailer and doing this. We're planning some major trailer service
>>> and thats whats bringing this about. Its illegal in my state to moor or
>>> anchor overnight and the few places that rent legal moorings are
>> extremely
>>> sought after, so, jacking is our option.
>>>
>>> I can lift the boat off the trailer but for placement on the ground i was
>>> thinking to block under the keel and use short boat stands front and
>> rear,
>>> then much taller stands all around to keep the boat upright. Is this plan
>>> correct? Anyone have tips? Would very much love to hear thank you!
>>
>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>> C- 516-965-3164
>>
>>
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From edmc18 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 21 12:40:10 2025
From: edmc18 at gmail.com (Ed McNamara)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 12:40:10 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Selling a boat through boatsfsbo.com
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That?s where I found mine. There were 4 Rhodes listed, one of which was
close by. I snapped it up!

On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 7:49?AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sailboatlistings.com
>
> No fee unless you'd like to pay $45 to have your boat featured
>
> On Sun, Jul 13, 2025, 12:32 PM Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > I just sold a boat yesterday which I advertised on Craigslist for free.
> So
> > I don?t think I would pay to put my boat on a site with a price tag that
> > high when there are free sites that are super well-known and have a lot
> of
> > traffic. Just my 2 cents.
> >
> > Tom Hyatt
> > S/V Eliza Jane 1978
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 12:12 PM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Listmates,
> > >
> > > As you may recall, I am selling my Rhodes.  I have received a couple of
> > > calls from folks at  <https://www.boatsfsbogo.com/index.html
> > >BoatsFSBO.com
> > > <http://boatsfsbo.com/>.   They want me to pay a fee (something like
> > > $400) to list my boat on their site.  They seem pretty aggressive,
> > wanting
> > > to convince me to sign up immediately, something that always raises a
> red
> > > flag with me.
> > >
> > > Anyone have any experience with that outfit?  Any recommendations of
> good
> > > places to list sailboats?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Frank
> > >
> > > Frank Goldsmith
> > > S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
> > > Fairview, NC
> > > Lake Keowee, SC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Jul 21 14:27:33 2025
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 14:27:33 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lifting and Jacking the Rhodes
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Thanks Roger - 
I have jacked up, lifted moved and painted a lot of boats. 
The trailer jacks sound like a brilliant idea. 
But this too is not for the old and or frail. 
 I plan to build a new swivel lift at my house with a hydraulic arm.
To use it I will lower the bow as far as possible, (with a car jack)  then use two jack stands (with chain ties)  at the stern.
Then jack up the front of the trailer  with the car jack.  
Then I will simply swing the arm into place over the bow, attache my hoist strapping and lift the bow until I can pull the trailer out. 
Then I can use my other three jack stands to stabilize the boat. 
When it?s done, I?ll share photos. 
Ric 


> On Jul 21, 2025, at 10:51 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ric,
> 
> If you look in the R22 archives, you will find a picture of my boat trailer with swiveling trailer jacks mounted on the frame of the trailer, port and starboard near the rear of the trailer.  Using these two jacks + the tongue jack will enable you to change a flat.  It also enables us to level the boat for use as a travel trailer.  We get the oddest looks in RV parks!  But, for your purpose it also enables the boat/trailer to be lifted, boat supported on jack stands, and then the trailer lowered out of the way for bottom painting or other maintenance.  You will need a dozen or so 4?x6?x24? wooden blocks to use as cribbing.
> 
> I will give you some precautions:
> 
> 1. Always chain the jack stands together so they don?t slide outboard port and starboard.
> 
> 2. If you are working on any surface but concrete, put a sheet of plywood under the jack stands so they don?t sink.
> 
> 3.  Don?t locate the jack stand support pads on the hull any closer than 10? away from any thru hull fittings.
> 
> Good Luck!
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 1978. Sanford, MI
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 21, 2025, at 10:24?AM, John Buhrmann <jbuhrmann at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?We had a similar collapse and switch to gantry. You can see the adventure
>> here:
>> 
>> https://svcalliope.wordpress.com/2025/03/23/rhodes-22/
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 9:59?AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It?s tricky.
>>> I  have used a number of ways to lift the bow so the trailer can be pulled
>>> out and replaced.
>>> This year (would have been the 4th season on the bottom paint) I used a
>>> friends fork- lift- it worked great.
>>> In the past I have used a gantry that I built out or 5/4 x 6 & plywood
>>> with a 4 x 8 pressure treated girder across the top and a 3 ton come-a-long.
>>> I built the parts, put it together lying on the ground, then pulled it up
>>> with a line while standing on the bow after staking the bottom to the
>>> ground so it would not slide.
>>> If you afraid of heights - this method is not for you.
>>> I worked this all single handed and it wasn?t tooo difficult, but my aging
>>> back is making it impossible to do that these days, especially by myself..
>>> The fork lift was much easier. . .
>>> When I used the gantry, I left it in place.  My friend had to take his toy
>>> away so I didn?t have the fork-lift for back up.
>>> I use the bow ring to lift the bow, but I had recently rebelt the baking
>>> so I knew it was very strong - always know what is behind the thing you are
>>> fighting from.
>>> Anyway, 3 jacks initially, two in the stern and one just forward of the
>>> keel- so there is nothing in the way of the trailer wheels.
>>> Then (this is not shown) add one  jack on each side, about midship, for
>>> stability, for a total of 5 jacks while you are working  on the boat.
>>> The two amidship can be moved  fore and aft while you are sanding and
>>> painting.
>>> The two in the stern and one forward of the keel, are left in place and
>>> those three spots are sanded and painted once the boat is back on the
>>> trailer.
>>> Always, be extra safe and careful. I had the boat fall off the  jacks once
>>> when I was jacking it with a hydraulic jack and a 4 x 4  without the Gantry
>>> or Fork lift.
>>> It scared the shit out of me, so now I?m always super careful and take my
>>> time for every action when I?m moving the boat.
>>> Fortunately, I didn?t get hurt and neither did Dadventure.
>>> Good luck in your adventure.
>>> Ric
>>> SV Dadventure
>>> Hampton Bays, NY
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 20, 2025, at 11:42 AM, Kenwood _ <kenwood364 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hey all!
>>>> I'm planning on lifting and jacking my rhodes up on blocks and boat
>>> jacks.
>>>> Boatyard style. This is my first time taking a boat as big as the rhodes
>>>> off its trailer and doing this. We're planning some major trailer service
>>>> and thats whats bringing this about. Its illegal in my state to moor or
>>>> anchor overnight and the few places that rent legal moorings are
>>> extremely
>>>> sought after, so, jacking is our option.
>>>> 
>>>> I can lift the boat off the trailer but for placement on the ground i was
>>>> thinking to block under the keel and use short boat stands front and
>>> rear,
>>>> then much taller stands all around to keep the boat upright. Is this plan
>>>> correct? Anyone have tips? Would very much love to hear thank you!
>>> 
>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>> C- 516-965-3164
>>> 
>>> 
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Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
ric at stottarchitecture.com
C- 516-965-3164




From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Jul 21 14:33:00 2025
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 14:33:00 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lifting and Jacking the Rhodes
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This what I love about Rhodies - 
Always a solution of some creative. Sort or another. 
Ric 


> On Jul 21, 2025, at 10:24 AM, John Buhrmann <jbuhrmann at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> We had a similar collapse and switch to gantry. You can see the adventure
> here:
> 
> https://svcalliope.wordpress.com/2025/03/23/rhodes-22/
> 
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 9:59?AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
> 
>> It?s tricky.
>> I  have used a number of ways to lift the bow so the trailer can be pulled
>> out and replaced.
>> This year (would have been the 4th season on the bottom paint) I used a
>> friends fork- lift- it worked great.
>> In the past I have used a gantry that I built out or 5/4 x 6 & plywood
>> with a 4 x 8 pressure treated girder across the top and a 3 ton come-a-long.
>> I built the parts, put it together lying on the ground, then pulled it up
>> with a line while standing on the bow after staking the bottom to the
>> ground so it would not slide.
>> If you afraid of heights - this method is not for you.
>> I worked this all single handed and it wasn?t tooo difficult, but my aging
>> back is making it impossible to do that these days, especially by myself..
>> The fork lift was much easier. . .
>> When I used the gantry, I left it in place.  My friend had to take his toy
>> away so I didn?t have the fork-lift for back up.
>> I use the bow ring to lift the bow, but I had recently rebelt the baking
>> so I knew it was very strong - always know what is behind the thing you are
>> fighting from.
>> Anyway, 3 jacks initially, two in the stern and one just forward of the
>> keel- so there is nothing in the way of the trailer wheels.
>> Then (this is not shown) add one  jack on each side, about midship, for
>> stability, for a total of 5 jacks while you are working  on the boat.
>> The two amidship can be moved  fore and aft while you are sanding and
>> painting.
>> The two in the stern and one forward of the keel, are left in place and
>> those three spots are sanded and painted once the boat is back on the
>> trailer.
>> Always, be extra safe and careful. I had the boat fall off the  jacks once
>> when I was jacking it with a hydraulic jack and a 4 x 4  without the Gantry
>> or Fork lift.
>> It scared the shit out of me, so now I?m always super careful and take my
>> time for every action when I?m moving the boat.
>> Fortunately, I didn?t get hurt and neither did Dadventure.
>> Good luck in your adventure.
>> Ric
>> SV Dadventure
>> Hampton Bays, NY
>> 
>>> On Jul 20, 2025, at 11:42 AM, Kenwood _ <kenwood364 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hey all!
>>> I'm planning on lifting and jacking my rhodes up on blocks and boat
>> jacks.
>>> Boatyard style. This is my first time taking a boat as big as the rhodes
>>> off its trailer and doing this. We're planning some major trailer service
>>> and thats whats bringing this about. Its illegal in my state to moor or
>>> anchor overnight and the few places that rent legal moorings are
>> extremely
>>> sought after, so, jacking is our option.
>>> 
>>> I can lift the boat off the trailer but for placement on the ground i was
>>> thinking to block under the keel and use short boat stands front and
>> rear,
>>> then much taller stands all around to keep the boat upright. Is this plan
>>> correct? Anyone have tips? Would very much love to hear thank you!
>> 
>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>> C- 516-965-3164
>> 
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ric at stottarchitecture.com
C- 516-965-3164




From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 15:27:42 2025
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2025 15:27:42 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Batteries
Message-ID: <CAPQvPRoM37RVbEUKaafjyTDvv=rgUVguR4BRfE+R6r9Atax8kw@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have a good source for NI-MH rechargeable C size 2800mah?
These are for use in my NICRO Day/Night Plus boaters cabin ventilation.
The online vendors seem to be robber barons.

Thanks
Cary Tolbert
Claytor Lake VA

From pbryanriley at gmail.com  Fri Jul 25 10:07:50 2025
From: pbryanriley at gmail.com (PBR)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 10:07:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Batteries
In-Reply-To: <CAPQvPRoM37RVbEUKaafjyTDvv=rgUVguR4BRfE+R6r9Atax8kw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPQvPRoM37RVbEUKaafjyTDvv=rgUVguR4BRfE+R6r9Atax8kw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJGJx+CnKW6aDoTnQsi0+3a4=qwojkbC0t9ihQ-s03T=sBBQqg@mail.gmail.com>

I see some at walmart.com , but not cheap there either.

On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 3:34?PM Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have a good source for NI-MH rechargeable C size 2800mah?
> These are for use in my NICRO Day/Night Plus boaters cabin ventilation.
> The online vendors seem to be robber barons.
>
> Thanks
> Cary Tolbert
> Claytor Lake VA
>

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Fri Jul 25 14:22:31 2025
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 14:22:31 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Batteries
In-Reply-To: <CAJGJx+CnKW6aDoTnQsi0+3a4=qwojkbC0t9ihQ-s03T=sBBQqg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPQvPRoM37RVbEUKaafjyTDvv=rgUVguR4BRfE+R6r9Atax8kw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJGJx+CnKW6aDoTnQsi0+3a4=qwojkbC0t9ihQ-s03T=sBBQqg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002001dbfd91$163e52b0$42baf810$@ebsmed.com>

I'm not sure how many you need and whether they are standard "C" cells or with solder tabs.

Amazon Basics has a 4-pack for $12.71 at:
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Rechargeable-Batteries-5000mAh-4-Pack/dp/B07PHCVSSS/ref=pd_sbs_d_sccl_1_4/131-2267869-6417714

For $16.14 per 4-pack, EBL, a brand that I really like has them at:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FHVM7GC/ref=sspa_dk_hqp_detail_aax_0

They have solder tab product on Amazon as well.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY
I?d rather be sailing :~)

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of PBR
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:08 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Batteries

I see some at walmart.com , but not cheap there either.

On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 3:34?PM Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have a good source for NI-MH rechargeable C size 2800mah?
> These are for use in my NICRO Day/Night Plus boaters cabin ventilation.
> The online vendors seem to be robber barons.
>
> Thanks
> Cary Tolbert
> Claytor Lake VA
>


From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Fri Jul 25 15:58:48 2025
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 15:58:48 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Batteries
In-Reply-To: <CAJGJx+CnKW6aDoTnQsi0+3a4=qwojkbC0t9ihQ-s03T=sBBQqg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPQvPRoM37RVbEUKaafjyTDvv=rgUVguR4BRfE+R6r9Atax8kw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJGJx+CnKW6aDoTnQsi0+3a4=qwojkbC0t9ihQ-s03T=sBBQqg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPQvPRpPTNO-YGEqhp7i5bd=EBHWM0s53ouNrnVq17W8OTk7Jg@mail.gmail.com>

Well . . . . I found a replacement battery at Walmart online. It was
3000mah, but I checked and it is at the high end of what the system will
charge.
It is a REAL PAIN buying from Walmart online. Amazon should have no fear of
Walmart being in the online market. lol

On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 10:08?AM PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:

> I see some at walmart.com , but not cheap there either.
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 3:34?PM Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have a good source for NI-MH rechargeable C size 2800mah?
> > These are for use in my NICRO Day/Night Plus boaters cabin ventilation.
> > The online vendors seem to be robber barons.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Cary Tolbert
> > Claytor Lake VA
> >
>

From snstaum at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 10:52:09 2025
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2025 10:52:09 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Outboard Hoist Winch
Message-ID: <CAOo_FjdcJW6NNmZ2wz1ZCOd-bBZ9496iCnoM55e6y70S7gaJMA@mail.gmail.com>

I have a 1990 Rhodes 22 that was factory rehabbed in 2016 with an electric
winch to raise the outboard. The winch is suddenly moving very slowly & I
think it will die soon. It is a Badland 2500 ATV winch.
Does anyone have any recommendations for replacement?
I assume it is bolted to the lazarette wall.  Are they thru bolts?
Can I remove & replace it on the water or do I need to be on the hard?
Also, all the winches I see for sale come with cables on the winch wheel.
Do I need to change the wheel or is it the same wheel?
My current winch uses a rocker switch mounted on the lazerette wall and is
very convenient. The new winches seem to come with remote controls. I heard
of problems with these from Rhodies. Can I wire these units to my rocker
switch?

Sorry for all the questions but I thought it might save all the multiple
responses.

Thanks  and Stay Well,
Stephen Staum
s/v Pinafore
Needham, MA

From lvjkuhn at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 11:14:38 2025
From: lvjkuhn at gmail.com (Lee Kuhn)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2025 11:14:38 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Outboard Hoist Winch
In-Reply-To: <CAOo_FjdcJW6NNmZ2wz1ZCOd-bBZ9496iCnoM55e6y70S7gaJMA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOo_FjdcJW6NNmZ2wz1ZCOd-bBZ9496iCnoM55e6y70S7gaJMA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPgvAEnrui0rnqnYtL_Q5n0o-GLg6u++P9Yna6waxSqYxE43qA@mail.gmail.com>

When I had my 135 pound outboard I noticed my winch was getting slower. I
drenched the belt with WD40 and it made a noticeable difference

Lee
Boatless at Claytor Lake, VA


On Sun, Jul 27, 2025, 10:52 AM Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a 1990 Rhodes 22 that was factory rehabbed in 2016 with an electric
> winch to raise the outboard. The winch is suddenly moving very slowly & I
> think it will die soon. It is a Badland 2500 ATV winch.
> Does anyone have any recommendations for replacement?
> I assume it is bolted to the lazarette wall.  Are they thru bolts?
> Can I remove & replace it on the water or do I need to be on the hard?
> Also, all the winches I see for sale come with cables on the winch wheel.
> Do I need to change the wheel or is it the same wheel?
> My current winch uses a rocker switch mounted on the lazerette wall and is
> very convenient. The new winches seem to come with remote controls. I heard
> of problems with these from Rhodies. Can I wire these units to my rocker
> switch?
>
> Sorry for all the questions but I thought it might save all the multiple
> responses.
>
> Thanks  and Stay Well,
> Stephen Staum
> s/v Pinafore
> Needham, MA
>

From snstaum at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 12:57:57 2025
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2025 12:57:57 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Outboard Hoist Winch
In-Reply-To: <CAPgvAEnrui0rnqnYtL_Q5n0o-GLg6u++P9Yna6waxSqYxE43qA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOo_FjdcJW6NNmZ2wz1ZCOd-bBZ9496iCnoM55e6y70S7gaJMA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPgvAEnrui0rnqnYtL_Q5n0o-GLg6u++P9Yna6waxSqYxE43qA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOo_FjfO2tzYv-4Otw51P0H9CVtnDabzpThgzEMPeyskp8AKHg@mail.gmail.com>

Interesting idea Lee. I probably have some WD40 on the boat & may try it.

Thanks and Stay Well,
Stephen Staum
s/v Pinafore
Needham, MA


On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 11:40?AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:

> When I had my 135 pound outboard I noticed my winch was getting slower. I
> drenched the belt with WD40 and it made a noticeable difference
>
> Lee
> Boatless at Claytor Lake, VA
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2025, 10:52 AM Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I have a 1990 Rhodes 22 that was factory rehabbed in 2016 with an
> electric
> > winch to raise the outboard. The winch is suddenly moving very slowly & I
> > think it will die soon. It is a Badland 2500 ATV winch.
> > Does anyone have any recommendations for replacement?
> > I assume it is bolted to the lazarette wall.  Are they thru bolts?
> > Can I remove & replace it on the water or do I need to be on the hard?
> > Also, all the winches I see for sale come with cables on the winch wheel.
> > Do I need to change the wheel or is it the same wheel?
> > My current winch uses a rocker switch mounted on the lazerette wall and
> is
> > very convenient. The new winches seem to come with remote controls. I
> heard
> > of problems with these from Rhodies. Can I wire these units to my rocker
> > switch?
> >
> > Sorry for all the questions but I thought it might save all the multiple
> > responses.
> >
> > Thanks  and Stay Well,
> > Stephen Staum
> > s/v Pinafore
> > Needham, MA
> >
>

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Sun Jul 27 13:23:56 2025
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2025 13:23:56 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Outboard Hoist Winch
Message-ID: <E1ug56K-00000004K6V-0a7S@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

Stephen,

My boat was also recycled in 2016, and had a Badland 2500 ATV winch installed to lift the outboard.  I decided that I preferred to raise the outboard manually, and so removed the winch years ago.  I kept the winch 'just in case', and you are welcome to it. 

The winch was working fine at the time that I removed it.  There are wires and the switch in the box it's being stored in.  The webbing strap is still in place on the winch. 

As I recall, on my boat the center 'rail' of the outboard lift had to be partially removed to gain access to the bolts holding the winch in place.  One of the bolts holding the rail in place is definitely below the water line.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)


[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]

> On 2025-07-27, at 10:52:09 EDT, Stephen Staum wrote:
>
> I have a 1990 Rhodes 22 that was factory rehabbed in 2016 with an electric winch 
> to raise the outboard. The winch is suddenly moving very slowly & I think it 
> will die soon. It is a Badland 2500 ATV winch. 
> Does anyone have any recommendations for replacement?
> I assume it is bolted to the lazarette wall.  Are they thru bolts? Can I remove 
> & replace it on the water or do I need to be on the hard? Also, all the 
> winches I see for sale come with cables on the winch wheel. Do I need to change 
> the wheel or is it the same wheel? 
> My current winch uses a rocker switch mounted on the lazerette wall and is very 
> convenient. The new winches seem to come with remote controls. I heard of 
> problems with these from Rhodies. Can I wire these units to my rocker switch? 
> 
> Sorry for all the questions but I thought it might save all the multiple 
> responses. 
> 
> Thanks  and Stay Well,
> Stephen Staum
> s/v Pinafore
> Needham, MA
> 


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From snstaum at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 13:29:50 2025
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2025 13:29:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Outboard Hoist Winch
In-Reply-To: <E1ug56K-00000004K6V-0a7S@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
References: <E1ug56K-00000004K6V-0a7S@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
Message-ID: <CAOo_FjfCFjHXAjDYrVgGJxF2_Vpy=+AxKXTk9miiB4zQEcgmpw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Peter.  I had a bad feeling it had to be done on the hard as I
cannot see the bolts from the lazerette.  I may take you up on your offer.
What did you set up to raise the outboard?


*Thanks and Stay Well,*

*Stephen Staum*
*s/v Pinafore*
*Needham, MA*



On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 1:24?PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

> Stephen,
>
> My boat was also recycled in 2016, and had a Badland 2500 ATV winch
> installed to lift the outboard.  I decided that I preferred to raise the
> outboard manually, and so removed the winch years ago.  I kept the winch
> 'just in case', and you are welcome to it.
>
> The winch was working fine at the time that I removed it.  There are wires
> and the switch in the box it's being stored in.  The webbing strap is still
> in place on the winch.
>
> As I recall, on my boat the center 'rail' of the outboard lift had to be
> partially removed to gain access to the bolts holding the winch in place.
> One of the bolts holding the rail in place is definitely below the water
> line.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
>
> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>
> > On 2025-07-27, at 10:52:09 EDT, Stephen Staum wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1990 Rhodes 22 that was factory rehabbed in 2016 with an
> electric winch
> > to raise the outboard. The winch is suddenly moving very slowly & I
> think it
> > will die soon. It is a Badland 2500 ATV winch.
> > Does anyone have any recommendations for replacement?
> > I assume it is bolted to the lazarette wall.  Are they thru bolts? Can I
> remove
> > & replace it on the water or do I need to be on the hard? Also, all the
> > winches I see for sale come with cables on the winch wheel. Do I need to
> change
> > the wheel or is it the same wheel?
> > My current winch uses a rocker switch mounted on the lazerette wall and
> is very
> > convenient. The new winches seem to come with remote controls. I heard
> of
> > problems with these from Rhodies. Can I wire these units to my rocker
> switch?
> >
> > Sorry for all the questions but I thought it might save all the multiple
> > responses.
> >
> > Thanks  and Stay Well,
> > Stephen Staum
> > s/v Pinafore
> > Needham, MA
> >
>
>
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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Sun Jul 27 13:46:23 2025
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2025 13:46:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Outboard Hoist Winch
Message-ID: <E1ug5S3-000000053lQ-2Gu5@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

I replaced the motorized lift with rope and pulleys.  

--Peter




[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]

> On 2025-07-27, at 13:29:50 EDT, Stephen Staum wrote:
>
> Thanks Peter.  I had a bad feeling it had to be done on the hard as I cannot see 
> the bolts from the lazerette.  I may take you up on your offer. What did you set 
> up to raise the outboard? 
> 
> 
> *Thanks and Stay Well,*
> 
> *Stephen Staum*
> *s/v Pinafore*
> *Needham, MA*
> 
> 
> 
> 


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From Mweisner at ebsmed.com  Tue Jul 29 11:56:32 2025
From: Mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2025 11:56:32 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Outboard Hoist Winch
Message-ID: <E1ugmgq-00000009S5e-1yPa@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

If you want a brand new winch, they are currently on sale at Harbor Freight for $59.99. It might be cheaper than the shipping on a free winch.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY 

[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]


From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Tue Jul 29 11:58:11 2025
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2025 11:58:11 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Outboard Hoist Winch
In-Reply-To: <E1ugmgq-00000009S5e-1yPa@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.12.1753804698.2899.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>

Coupon link:https://go.harborfreight.com/email/2025/07/e183813-56258Mike
-------- Original message --------From: "Michael D. Weisner" <Mweisner at ebsmed.com> Date: 7/29/25  11:56 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Outboard Hoist Winch If you want a brand new winch, they are currently on sale at Harbor Freight for $59.99. It might be cheaper than the shipping on a free winch.Mikes/v Wind Lass ('91)Nissequogue River, NY [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]

From snstaum at gmail.com  Tue Jul 29 14:06:43 2025
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2025 14:06:43 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Outboard Hoist Winch
In-Reply-To: <E1ugmgq-00000009S5e-1yPa@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
References: <E1ugmgq-00000009S5e-1yPa@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
Message-ID: <CAOo_Fjf3Cy_u_GvJtL7QM5FYNmJG0xNFcDvwSUdKa_Bpumt4Hw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Mike

Stay Well,
Stephen Staum
s/v Pinafore
Needham, MA

On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 11:56?AM Michael D. Weisner <Mweisner at ebsmed.com>
wrote:

> If you want a brand new winch, they are currently on sale at Harbor
> Freight for $59.99. It might be cheaper than the shipping on a free winch.
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>
>

From johnfarmer87 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 10:58:01 2025
From: johnfarmer87 at gmail.com (John Farmer)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 10:58:01 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New R22 owners and traveler bar question
Message-ID: <CAE70t68Vf9U1ap1qY4Ka4Rugvn4MecE1WWzW6Z93+3mPKO8ZHA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Rhodies,

We recently purchased a 2012 Rhodes 22 and had our first sail last on the
Long Island Sound last weekend ? we had a great time!

I had a question about the traveler set up. The traveler bar came with the
line looped around the ends and cleated in a way that makes the traveler
stationary (see attached photos). Can someone please explain or show a
picture of how the line on the traveler is supposed to be set up and
operated?

[image: 575CE571-88BC-4B69-AE23-07C657327928_1_105_c.jpeg]

[image: BDB0F092-7042-45E9-BECB-3FBEBEDCAF2C_1_102_o.jpeg]


Thanks,
John

-- 
John Farmer
505-400-1574
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From pbryanriley at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 12:24:49 2025
From: pbryanriley at gmail.com (PBR)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 12:24:49 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New R22 owners and traveler bar question
In-Reply-To: <CAE70t68Vf9U1ap1qY4Ka4Rugvn4MecE1WWzW6Z93+3mPKO8ZHA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE70t68Vf9U1ap1qY4Ka4Rugvn4MecE1WWzW6Z93+3mPKO8ZHA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJGJx+DVoyFjiA0h5YU3Vh01_gougfpauJVGyM7Ma89oehhEWQ@mail.gmail.com>

John,
It looks to me like it is configured properly.  Just unwind the ends,
loosen one cleat and pull on the other end to move it back and forth.
re-cleat both ends when positioned how you want it.  One cleat will always
have tension.  Both ends of the bar should be pinned to the cups on the
backstays.  I don't see any pins in yours.  Both my cleats face upwards so
I can see them I suppose.  Yours were apparently wound up nicely at both
ends but that is not typical, probably your previous owner didn't move the
traveller much.  I just leave the ends of mine hanging.
Patrick


On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 10:58?AM John Farmer <johnfarmer87 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Rhodies,
>
> We recently purchased a 2012 Rhodes 22 and had our first sail last on the
> Long Island Sound last weekend ? we had a great time!
>
> I had a question about the traveler set up. The traveler bar came with the
> line looped around the ends and cleated in a way that makes the traveler
> stationary (see attached photos). Can someone please explain or show a
> picture of how the line on the traveler is supposed to be set up and
> operated?
>
> [image: 575CE571-88BC-4B69-AE23-07C657327928_1_105_c.jpeg]
>
> [image: BDB0F092-7042-45E9-BECB-3FBEBEDCAF2C_1_102_o.jpeg]
>
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> --
> John Farmer
> 505-400-1574
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From recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 13:04:03 2025
From: recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com (peter beckerman)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 13:04:03 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New R22 owners and traveler bar question
Message-ID: <E1uhWhH-00000001ZBo-0Jlj@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

On mine the line is tied to a padeye that is attached to the traveler bar next to the clam cleat.  It runs along the bar and through a block on the traveler car, then back along the bar and through the clam cleat. There?s one on each side. When you want to move the car to port (for example) simply uncleat both lines, pull the car to port and cleat the port side line.  The starboard line can be left loose or cleated as you prefer.  I just replaced my clam cleats with cam cleats because the line wouldn?t hold reliably (see attached). Looks like you had a nice sail!  Welcome to the club!

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From recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 13:21:29 2025
From: recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com (peter beckerman)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 13:21:29 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New R22 owners and traveler bar question
Message-ID: <E1uhWy9-00000001yXF-1Mgm@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

Error correction on my previous post:  once you have the traveler car where you want it you should cleat both lines.

Fair winds
   Peter

[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]


From 62himis at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 16:10:20 2025
From: 62himis at gmail.com (Larry W)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 16:10:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What are these for?
Message-ID: <CAE=38+ue4Ow8g08260XYBFNDPeyj=Eic6uZDQ988mwHzJ3z8hQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Sailors,

I bought my Rhodes 22 at an auction and I'm still learning about it.

On board were two round 1" diameter by 5 1/2" long rods with a rubber
bumper on one end. They look to be used somewhere inside the boat. At least
I think they belong with the boat.

Does anyone recognize these?

Larry Willis
Serenity
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From johnfarmer87 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 16:11:17 2025
From: johnfarmer87 at gmail.com (John Farmer)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 16:11:17 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New R22 owners and traveler bar question
In-Reply-To: <E1uhWy9-00000001yXF-1Mgm@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
References: <E1uhWy9-00000001yXF-1Mgm@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>
Message-ID: <CAE70t6-99Nxm+kFi7r1_26t+RY61RAohy1Xf6E0-byMyn7bxJg@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you, Patrick and Peter. Very helpful. I like the cam cleat idea and
will add that to my list of upgrades.

On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 3:51?PM peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Error correction on my previous post:  once you have the traveler car
> where you want it you should cleat both lines.
>
> Fair winds
>    Peter
>
> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>
>

-- 
John Farmer
505-400-1574

From tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com  Thu Jul 31 16:13:22 2025
From: tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com (Tom Van Heule)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:13:22 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What are these for?
In-Reply-To: <CAE=38+ue4Ow8g08260XYBFNDPeyj=Eic6uZDQ988mwHzJ3z8hQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE=38+ue4Ow8g08260XYBFNDPeyj=Eic6uZDQ988mwHzJ3z8hQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEqJHY42Tj=edmM_J0mANp_1G1fy2Kw3fVAOsznpC0cG6G7yUw@mail.gmail.com>

Those might be for supporting the seats inside. Or bracing.

Tom Van Heule
Intrinsic Programs
tom.vanheule at intrinsicprograms.com
+1 303 525 5266

On Thu, Jul 31, 2025, 3:10 PM Larry W <62himis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Sailors,
>
> I bought my Rhodes 22 at an auction and I'm still learning about it.
>
> On board were two round 1" diameter by 5 1/2" long rods with a rubber
> bumper on one end. They look to be used somewhere inside the boat. At least
> I think they belong with the boat.
>
> Does anyone recognize these?
>
> Larry Willis
> Serenity
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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Thu Jul 31 16:41:11 2025
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 16:41:11 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What are these for?
In-Reply-To: <CAE=38+ue4Ow8g08260XYBFNDPeyj=Eic6uZDQ988mwHzJ3z8hQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE=38+ue4Ow8g08260XYBFNDPeyj=Eic6uZDQ988mwHzJ3z8hQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002201dc025b$7467c730$5d375590$@ebsmed.com>

They look rather like the standoffs on a boarding ladder complete with the rubber bumpers. My ladder is stainless steel but the pieces are about the same size as the metal ones on my ladder. Do you have a wooden ladder?

Attached is a photo of my ladder with the 1" rubber bumpers removed for replacement.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY
I?d rather be sailing :~)

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Larry W
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 4:10 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What are these for?

Hi Sailors,

I bought my Rhodes 22 at an auction and I'm still learning about it.

On board were two round 1" diameter by 5 1/2" long rods with a rubber bumper on one end. They look to be used somewhere inside the boat. At least I think they belong with the boat.

Does anyone recognize these?

Larry Willis
Serenity
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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Thu Jul 31 17:01:09 2025
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 17:01:09 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CDI Jib Furler Fix
Message-ID: <E1uhaOj-0000000G5Xj-1sB2@mi3-ss123.a2hosting.com>

On my mosts recent cruise in the Penobscot Bay area of Maine, my CDI jib furler broke. It wasn't dramatic, and I was able to muddle through and continue the cruise.  When I got back home, I investigated, found the cause, ordered some parts, and fixed the problem.  (I'm pretty sure.)

Then I made a video about it: https://youtu.be/GfcqzaJktb8

Long story short, the bearing at the bottom of the whole assembly deteriorated (old age), which allowed a small but important piece to fall off, which allowed the stainless 'cup' at the bottom to rotate with the rest of the furler, which is not good. 

I ordered some new parts from CDI (https://www.cdifurlers.com).  To the extent I've been able to test it, with the boat on its trailer in my yard, the furler seems to be working better than ever.

If you'd like your CDI furler to spin more easily, you might want to consider upgrading to the better bearing even if it's not yet broken.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)


[ Sent From rhodes22.net ]


From kenwood364 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 17:03:59 2025
From: kenwood364 at gmail.com (Kenwood _)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 17:03:59 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lifting and Jacking the Rhodes
In-Reply-To: <6E2FACFF-EA2D-4DD6-98D8-2051A0881AE6@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <CABvjUT3rNU6OKWbt6xfoFE2DO+6s3HGR+JgLSefS9BQ-DfDq5w@mail.gmail.com>
 <C5C59A72-B506-477D-B915-5B62BB4D8803@stottarchitecture.com>
 <CAOpX1ryPros95J=fHWN_2UV=T6JKDmnKmRwhuHthVob+AFStHw@mail.gmail.com>
 <6E2FACFF-EA2D-4DD6-98D8-2051A0881AE6@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <CABvjUT0_BmwbZ7+Jrsf5wpxWMHPxeTCWKYB1+VOP5nOJtrzXVw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all! I took a bunch of notes from these messages. Thanks so much! I'll
post more about how/when I lift the boat but the pictures were super
helpful and im really thankful i got such a quick response ty!

In the meantime heres a new door I made for my boat!

[image: PXL_20250614_023810944.jpg]
[image: PXL_20250727_213911571.jpg]


On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 2:39?PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:

> This what I love about Rhodies -
> Always a solution of some creative. Sort or another.
> Ric
>
>
> > On Jul 21, 2025, at 10:24 AM, John Buhrmann <jbuhrmann at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > We had a similar collapse and switch to gantry. You can see the adventure
> > here:
> >
> > https://svcalliope.wordpress.com/2025/03/23/rhodes-22/
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 9:59?AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> It?s tricky.
> >> I  have used a number of ways to lift the bow so the trailer can be
> pulled
> >> out and replaced.
> >> This year (would have been the 4th season on the bottom paint) I used a
> >> friends fork- lift- it worked great.
> >> In the past I have used a gantry that I built out or 5/4 x 6 & plywood
> >> with a 4 x 8 pressure treated girder across the top and a 3 ton
> come-a-long.
> >> I built the parts, put it together lying on the ground, then pulled it
> up
> >> with a line while standing on the bow after staking the bottom to the
> >> ground so it would not slide.
> >> If you afraid of heights - this method is not for you.
> >> I worked this all single handed and it wasn?t tooo difficult, but my
> aging
> >> back is making it impossible to do that these days, especially by
> myself..
> >> The fork lift was much easier. . .
> >> When I used the gantry, I left it in place.  My friend had to take his
> toy
> >> away so I didn?t have the fork-lift for back up.
> >> I use the bow ring to lift the bow, but I had recently rebelt the baking
> >> so I knew it was very strong - always know what is behind the thing you
> are
> >> fighting from.
> >> Anyway, 3 jacks initially, two in the stern and one just forward of the
> >> keel- so there is nothing in the way of the trailer wheels.
> >> Then (this is not shown) add one  jack on each side, about midship, for
> >> stability, for a total of 5 jacks while you are working  on the boat.
> >> The two amidship can be moved  fore and aft while you are sanding and
> >> painting.
> >> The two in the stern and one forward of the keel, are left in place and
> >> those three spots are sanded and painted once the boat is back on the
> >> trailer.
> >> Always, be extra safe and careful. I had the boat fall off the  jacks
> once
> >> when I was jacking it with a hydraulic jack and a 4 x 4  without the
> Gantry
> >> or Fork lift.
> >> It scared the shit out of me, so now I?m always super careful and take
> my
> >> time for every action when I?m moving the boat.
> >> Fortunately, I didn?t get hurt and neither did Dadventure.
> >> Good luck in your adventure.
> >> Ric
> >> SV Dadventure
> >> Hampton Bays, NY
> >>
> >>> On Jul 20, 2025, at 11:42 AM, Kenwood _ <kenwood364 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >> ?
> >>
> >> ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hey all!
> >>> I'm planning on lifting and jacking my rhodes up on blocks and boat
> >> jacks.
> >>> Boatyard style. This is my first time taking a boat as big as the
> rhodes
> >>> off its trailer and doing this. We're planning some major trailer
> service
> >>> and thats whats bringing this about. Its illegal in my state to moor or
> >>> anchor overnight and the few places that rent legal moorings are
> >> extremely
> >>> sought after, so, jacking is our option.
> >>>
> >>> I can lift the boat off the trailer but for placement on the ground i
> was
> >>> thinking to block under the keel and use short boat stands front and
> >> rear,
> >>> then much taller stands all around to keep the boat upright. Is this
> plan
> >>> correct? Anyone have tips? Would very much love to hear thank you!
> >>
> >> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> >> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> >> C- 516-965-3164
> >>
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> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> C- 516-965-3164
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From sea20 at verizon.net  Thu Jul 31 17:36:01 2025
From: sea20 at verizon.net (Scott Andrews)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 17:36:01 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What are these for?
In-Reply-To: <002201dc025b$7467c730$5d375590$@ebsmed.com>
References: <002201dc025b$7467c730$5d375590$@ebsmed.com>
Message-ID: <B7B2740F-62C0-475A-B2DE-70CF3F9DF70B@verizon.net>

From the length they look like supports to widen the cabin bench for sleeping.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2025, at 4:41?PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> 
> ?They look rather like the standoffs on a boarding ladder complete with the rubber bumpers. My ladder is stainless steel but the pieces are about the same size as the metal ones on my ladder. Do you have a wooden ladder?
> 
> Attached is a photo of my ladder with the 1" rubber bumpers removed for replacement.
> 
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> I?d rather be sailing :~)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Larry W
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 4:10 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What are these for?
> 
> Hi Sailors,
> 
> I bought my Rhodes 22 at an auction and I'm still learning about it.
> 
> On board were two round 1" diameter by 5 1/2" long rods with a rubber bumper on one end. They look to be used somewhere inside the boat. At least I think they belong with the boat.
> 
> Does anyone recognize these?
> 
> Larry Willis
> Serenity
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From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Thu Jul 31 18:22:10 2025
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 22:22:10 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What are these for?
In-Reply-To: <B7B2740F-62C0-475A-B2DE-70CF3F9DF70B@verizon.net>
References: <B7B2740F-62C0-475A-B2DE-70CF3F9DF70B@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BY5PR10MB3825442C36515623F79633F78027A@BY5PR10MB3825.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>

Larry,

Does your galley table have sockets on the bottom that fit your rods?  My table is supported on each end by shelves that protrude from the companionway step and the folding step in the head compartment.  The table is unsupported over its length between these 2 shelves.  I?ve never had an issue with overloading.  But, I suppose a heavy weight previous owner might have installed the posts to support the load.  I don?t think this is factory standard.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
1978. Sanford, MI
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2025, at 5:36?PM, Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> ?From the length they look like supports to widen the cabin bench for sleeping.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 31, 2025, at 4:41?PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?They look rather like the standoffs on a boarding ladder complete with the rubber bumpers. My ladder is stainless steel but the pieces are about the same size as the metal ones on my ladder. Do you have a wooden ladder?
>>
>> Attached is a photo of my ladder with the 1" rubber bumpers removed for replacement.
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> I?d rather be sailing :~)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Larry W
>> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 4:10 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What are these for?
>>
>> Hi Sailors,
>>
>> I bought my Rhodes 22 at an auction and I'm still learning about it.
>>
>> On board were two round 1" diameter by 5 1/2" long rods with a rubber bumper on one end. They look to be used somewhere inside the boat. At least I think they belong with the boat.
>>
>> Does anyone recognize these?
>>
>> Larry Willis
>> Serenity
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