From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Mar  3 13:19:38 2025
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 13:19:38 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
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I jut found this address in my email. To sure if this is correct but this is the address where I picked up the IMF mast from him. 
Ric 
Dadventure 

Mike Orla 
5 Overlook Road 
Quincy, MA zip?


Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
ric at stottarchitecture.com
O -631-283-1777
C- 516-965-3164



> On Feb 28, 2025, at 7:14 AM, BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Sorry Matt, I don't have an address for him.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2025 5:09:19 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> 
> Good afternoon everyone,
> 
> If I could ask your forbearance with one more question related to my sail
> saga.  Those of you who purchased something from Michael Orla, do you have
> a current address for him?
> 
> Many thanks,
> Matt WIlson
> Hornblower II
> White Bear Lake, MN
> 
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:36?PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Multiple locations.
>> Still being developed, as we can.
>> 
>> Would love to get together with you sometime, Chris.  It's been a million
>> years.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 11:11?PM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com
>>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> So where is it being moved to?  Wish I could volunteer, maybe when things
>>> settle down for us.
>>> 
>>> Chris G.
>>> Xenos
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 19, 2025, at 8:51?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Not so much me, but our wonderful volunteers are making it all
>> possible!
>>>> 
>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 9:06?PM Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Cindy.  It sounds as though you are undertaking a monumental job.
>>>>> Thank-you for doing this and for continuing Stan's legacy.
>>>>> Don Simons, Old Forge, NY
>>>>>   On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 09:23:59 AM EST, Chris
>> Geankoplis
>>> <
>>>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Cindy!  Hope you and your family are doing well. I?ll check if
>> I
>>>>> need anything once the weather gets out of negative numbers
>>>>> Chris Geankopli. S/V Xenos
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:00?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ?Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of
>> physically
>>>>>> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used
>> Rhodes
>>>>>> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other items,
>>>>> large
>>>>>> and small.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to provide
>>>>>> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery
>>> options,
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate,
>> and
>>>>>> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to
>>>>> Stan's
>>>>>> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
>>>>>> otherwise busy lives.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr.
>> Orla
>>> is
>>>>>>> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up.  Are those sails listed on the
>> website
>>>>>>> somewhere?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <
>> cindyspitzer at gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes
>> 22
>>>>>>>> sails.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>>>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
>>>>>>>>> We have spoken about this before.  I bought a IMf mast from ol?
>> Mike
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> ?2021 or 22.  That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild,
>>> and
>>>>>>>>> remains my next project.
>>>>>>>>> Regarding ?another note?,  I happen to have a Genoa that I might
>> be
>>>>>>>>> willing to part with.  It is stashed away currently but I will dig
>>> it
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely
>>>>> 1984
>>>>>>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other
>> and
>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of  whatever you
>>> feel
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
>>>>>>>>> Here is my email.
>>>>>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
>>>>>>>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
>>>>>>>>> Ric
>>>>>>>>> Dadventure
>>>>>>>>> HBNY
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com
>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now.  Many promises
>>>>>>>> unkept,
>>>>>>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
>>>>>>>> patient
>>>>>>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived.  Very
>>>>>>> disappointed
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> how this turned out.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our
>> Rhodes
>>>>>>>>> floated
>>>>>>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in
>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> short
>>>>>>>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed
>>> on a
>>>>>>>>> price,
>>>>>>>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple
>> layers
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send
>>> you
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will
>> have
>>>>>>> 2.".
>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard
>>> that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
>>>>>>>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>>>>>>>>> Get Outlook for Android<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7C546d9a1ac5d243387ed308dd577b6bf0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638762909802497269%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2FpjzR1rSyaTCzNJMLEtam4ieO6s7CBNITm2D5EhmRzg%3D&reserved=0<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on
>>> behalf
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I hope your off season is going well.  It won't be long now!  ;)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
>>>>>>>> grateful
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource
>> regularly
>>>>>>>>> supplies.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla
>>> parting
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list.  I reached out to his
>>> offer
>>>>>>>>> and we
>>>>>>>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails.  Once he
>>> shipped
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of
>>>>>>> Lees
>>>>>>>>> Sails
>>>>>>>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams .  The
>>>>>>>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to
>>> believe
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning.  Which
>> leads
>>> me
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>> question.  As we consider our options to rectify this situation,
>>> it
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and
>> received
>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>> North Sails from him.  I of course would hold him fully
>>> responsible
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> this if this was truly the case.  I suppose it's a risk I took
>>>>>>> dealing
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> a private party.  I have found every other sailor to be 100%
>>> helpful
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> honest.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to
>> let
>>> me
>>>>>>>>> know,
>>>>>>>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
>>>>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at
>>> mwhornblower at gmail.com
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> 612-770-4531
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested.  I don't have
>> the
>>>>>>>>> budget at
>>>>>>>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>> Hornblower II
>>>>>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 


From ruehbl at msn.com  Mon Mar  3 14:27:13 2025
From: ruehbl at msn.com (BARRY RUEHLEN)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 19:27:13 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
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That sure looks like the address I had 2 years ago.

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________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2025 1:19:38 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails

I jut found this address in my email. To sure if this is correct but this is the address where I picked up the IMF mast from him.
Ric
Dadventure

Mike Orla
5 Overlook Road
Quincy, MA zip?


Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
ric at stottarchitecture.com
O -631-283-1777
C- 516-965-3164



> On Feb 28, 2025, at 7:14 AM, BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry Matt, I don't have an address for him.
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> Get Outlook for Android<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ce92a8434f8664015344b08dd5a7ffe70%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638766227963907006%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=EsKarKfdOEhg7eIdF0tyC5h8pw8mTgD%2BOV9PHqmpqkY%3D&reserved=0<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2025 5:09:19 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>
> Good afternoon everyone,
>
> If I could ask your forbearance with one more question related to my sail
> saga.  Those of you who purchased something from Michael Orla, do you have
> a current address for him?
>
> Many thanks,
> Matt WIlson
> Hornblower II
> White Bear Lake, MN
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:36?PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Multiple locations.
>> Still being developed, as we can.
>>
>> Would love to get together with you sometime, Chris.  It's been a million
>> years.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 11:11?PM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com
>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So where is it being moved to?  Wish I could volunteer, maybe when things
>>> settle down for us.
>>>
>>> Chris G.
>>> Xenos
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Feb 19, 2025, at 8:51?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?Not so much me, but our wonderful volunteers are making it all
>> possible!
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 9:06?PM Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Cindy.  It sounds as though you are undertaking a monumental job.
>>>>> Thank-you for doing this and for continuing Stan's legacy.
>>>>> Don Simons, Old Forge, NY
>>>>>   On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 09:23:59 AM EST, Chris
>> Geankoplis
>>> <
>>>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Cindy!  Hope you and your family are doing well. I?ll check if
>> I
>>>>> need anything once the weather gets out of negative numbers
>>>>> Chris Geankopli. S/V Xenos
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:00?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of
>> physically
>>>>>> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used
>> Rhodes
>>>>>> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other items,
>>>>> large
>>>>>> and small.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to provide
>>>>>> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery
>>> options,
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate,
>> and
>>>>>> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to
>>>>> Stan's
>>>>>> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
>>>>>> otherwise busy lives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr.
>> Orla
>>> is
>>>>>>> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up.  Are those sails listed on the
>> website
>>>>>>> somewhere?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <
>> cindyspitzer at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes
>> 22
>>>>>>>> sails.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>>>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
>>>>>>>>> We have spoken about this before.  I bought a IMf mast from ol?
>> Mike
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> ?2021 or 22.  That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild,
>>> and
>>>>>>>>> remains my next project.
>>>>>>>>> Regarding ?another note?,  I happen to have a Genoa that I might
>> be
>>>>>>>>> willing to part with.  It is stashed away currently but I will dig
>>> it
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely
>>>>> 1984
>>>>>>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other
>> and
>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of  whatever you
>>> feel
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
>>>>>>>>> Here is my email.
>>>>>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
>>>>>>>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
>>>>>>>>> Ric
>>>>>>>>> Dadventure
>>>>>>>>> HBNY
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com
>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now.  Many promises
>>>>>>>> unkept,
>>>>>>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
>>>>>>>> patient
>>>>>>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived.  Very
>>>>>>> disappointed
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> how this turned out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our
>> Rhodes
>>>>>>>>> floated
>>>>>>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in
>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> short
>>>>>>>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed
>>> on a
>>>>>>>>> price,
>>>>>>>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple
>> layers
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send
>>> you
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will
>> have
>>>>>>> 2.".
>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard
>>> that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
>>>>>>>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>>>>>>>>> Get Outlook for Android<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ce92a8434f8664015344b08dd5a7ffe70%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638766227963923719%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DvLDfmMdIsLPyB0VTKWQqnl5Nl039Mv0%2FLG0cwe5qco%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ce92a8434f8664015344b08dd5a7ffe70%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638766227963935459%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=XGiWz%2BqsY8GZLzZNSC52X%2FuJKzEVR84lKNZ0ZaU3l1Y%3D&reserved=0<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on
>>> behalf
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I hope your off season is going well.  It won't be long now!  ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
>>>>>>>> grateful
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource
>> regularly
>>>>>>>>> supplies.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla
>>> parting
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list.  I reached out to his
>>> offer
>>>>>>>>> and we
>>>>>>>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails.  Once he
>>> shipped
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of
>>>>>>> Lees
>>>>>>>>> Sails
>>>>>>>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams .  The
>>>>>>>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to
>>> believe
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning.  Which
>> leads
>>> me
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>> question.  As we consider our options to rectify this situation,
>>> it
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and
>> received
>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>> North Sails from him.  I of course would hold him fully
>>> responsible
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> this if this was truly the case.  I suppose it's a risk I took
>>>>>>> dealing
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> a private party.  I have found every other sailor to be 100%
>>> helpful
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> honest.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to
>> let
>>> me
>>>>>>>>> know,
>>>>>>>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
>>>>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at
>>> mwhornblower at gmail.com
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> 612-770-4531
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested.  I don't have
>> the
>>>>>>>>> budget at
>>>>>>>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>> Hornblower II
>>>>>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>


From mwhornblower at gmail.com  Mon Mar  3 15:48:49 2025
From: mwhornblower at gmail.com (Matt Wilson)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 14:48:49 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
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Thanks so much!
Matt

On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 1:37?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:

> That sure looks like the address I had 2 years ago.
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Ric
> Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 3, 2025 1:19:38 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>
> I jut found this address in my email. To sure if this is correct but this
> is the address where I picked up the IMF mast from him.
> Ric
> Dadventure
>
> Mike Orla
> 5 Overlook Road
> Quincy, MA zip?
>
>
> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> O -631-283-1777
> C- 516-965-3164
>
>
>
> > On Feb 28, 2025, at 7:14 AM, BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry Matt, I don't have an address for him.
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > Get Outlook for Android<
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ce92a8434f8664015344b08dd5a7ffe70%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638766227963907006%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=EsKarKfdOEhg7eIdF0tyC5h8pw8mTgD%2BOV9PHqmpqkY%3D&reserved=0
> <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>>
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2025 5:09:19 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> >
> > Good afternoon everyone,
> >
> > If I could ask your forbearance with one more question related to my sail
> > saga.  Those of you who purchased something from Michael Orla, do you
> have
> > a current address for him?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Matt WIlson
> > Hornblower II
> > White Bear Lake, MN
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:36?PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Multiple locations.
> >> Still being developed, as we can.
> >>
> >> Would love to get together with you sometime, Chris.  It's been a
> million
> >> years.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 11:11?PM Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com
> >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> So where is it being moved to?  Wish I could volunteer, maybe when
> things
> >>> settle down for us.
> >>>
> >>> Chris G.
> >>> Xenos
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 19, 2025, at 8:51?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ?Not so much me, but our wonderful volunteers are making it all
> >> possible!
> >>>>
> >>>> Cindy Spitzer
> >>>> 443-980-7367
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 9:06?PM Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <
> >>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Cindy.  It sounds as though you are undertaking a monumental job.
> >>>>> Thank-you for doing this and for continuing Stan's legacy.
> >>>>> Don Simons, Old Forge, NY
> >>>>>   On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 09:23:59 AM EST, Chris
> >> Geankoplis
> >>> <
> >>>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks Cindy!  Hope you and your family are doing well. I?ll check if
> >> I
> >>>>> need anything once the weather gets out of negative numbers
> >>>>> Chris Geankopli. S/V Xenos
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:00?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ?Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of
> >> physically
> >>>>>> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used
> >> Rhodes
> >>>>>> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other
> items,
> >>>>> large
> >>>>>> and small.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to
> provide
> >>>>>> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery
> >>> options,
> >>>>>> etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate,
> >> and
> >>>>>> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to
> >>>>> Stan's
> >>>>>> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
> >>>>>> otherwise busy lives.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cindy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
> >>>>>> 443-980-7367
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks everyone!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr.
> >> Orla
> >>> is
> >>>>>>> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up.  Are those sails listed on the
> >> website
> >>>>>>> somewhere?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Matt
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <
> >> cindyspitzer at gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes
> >> 22
> >>>>>>>> sails.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
> >>>>>>>> 443-980-7367
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> >>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
> >>>>>>>>> We have spoken about this before.  I bought a IMf mast from ol?
> >> Mike
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> ?2021 or 22.  That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild,
> >>> and
> >>>>>>>>> remains my next project.
> >>>>>>>>> Regarding ?another note?,  I happen to have a Genoa that I might
> >> be
> >>>>>>>>> willing to part with.  It is stashed away currently but I will
> dig
> >>> it
> >>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most
> likely
> >>>>> 1984
> >>>>>>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other
> >> and
> >>>>>>>> check
> >>>>>>>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of  whatever you
> >>> feel
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so
> I
> >>>>>>> might
> >>>>>>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
> >>>>>>>>> Here is my email.
> >>>>>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
> >>>>>>>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
> >>>>>>>>> Ric
> >>>>>>>>> Dadventure
> >>>>>>>>> HBNY
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <
> mwhornblower at gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now.  Many promises
> >>>>>>>> unkept,
> >>>>>>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
> >>>>>>>> patient
> >>>>>>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived.  Very
> >>>>>>> disappointed
> >>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> how this turned out.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Matt
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our
> >> Rhodes
> >>>>>>>>> floated
> >>>>>>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in
> >>> it's
> >>>>>>>>> short
> >>>>>>>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed
> >>> on a
> >>>>>>>>> price,
> >>>>>>>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple
> >> layers
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send
> >>> you
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will
> >> have
> >>>>>>> 2.".
> >>>>>>>>> This
> >>>>>>>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard
> >>> that
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more
> repairs.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> >>>>>>>>>>> Get Outlook for Android<
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> <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on
> >>> behalf
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I hope your off season is going well.  It won't be long now!
> ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
> >>>>>>>> grateful
> >>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource
> >> regularly
> >>>>>>>>> supplies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla
> >>> parting
> >>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list.  I reached out to his
> >>> offer
> >>>>>>>>> and we
> >>>>>>>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails.  Once he
> >>> shipped
> >>>>>>>> them
> >>>>>>>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set
> of
> >>>>>>> Lees
> >>>>>>>>> Sails
> >>>>>>>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams .
> The
> >>>>>>>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to
> >>> believe
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning.  Which
> >> leads
> >>> me
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> my
> >>>>>>>>>>> question.  As we consider our options to rectify this
> situation,
> >>> it
> >>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and
> >> received
> >>>>>>>> those
> >>>>>>>>>>> North Sails from him.  I of course would hold him fully
> >>> responsible
> >>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>> this if this was truly the case.  I suppose it's a risk I took
> >>>>>>> dealing
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> a private party.  I have found every other sailor to be 100%
> >>> helpful
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> honest.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to
> >> let
> >>> me
> >>>>>>>>> know,
> >>>>>>>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
> >>>>>>>>> situation.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at
> >>> mwhornblower at gmail.com
> >>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>> 612-770-4531
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape
> that
> >>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested.  I don't have
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>> budget at
> >>>>>>>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hornblower II
> >>>>>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>

From a_czerwonky at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  3 17:21:49 2025
From: a_czerwonky at yahoo.com (Art Czerwonky)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 22:21:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
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I am still looking for a rudder for MaryJane.????? 

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  On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 3:49 PM, Matt Wilson<mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:   Thanks so much!
Matt

On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 1:37?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:

> That sure looks like the address I had 2 years ago.
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Ric
> Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 3, 2025 1:19:38 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>
> I jut found this address in my email. To sure if this is correct but this
> is the address where I picked up the IMF mast from him.
> Ric
> Dadventure
>
> Mike Orla
> 5 Overlook Road
> Quincy, MA zip?
>
>
> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> O -631-283-1777
> C- 516-965-3164
>
>
>
> > On Feb 28, 2025, at 7:14 AM, BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry Matt, I don't have an address for him.
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > Get Outlook for Android<
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ce92a8434f8664015344b08dd5a7ffe70%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638766227963907006%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=EsKarKfdOEhg7eIdF0tyC5h8pw8mTgD%2BOV9PHqmpqkY%3D&reserved=0
> <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>>
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2025 5:09:19 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> >
> > Good afternoon everyone,
> >
> > If I could ask your forbearance with one more question related to my sail
> > saga.? Those of you who purchased something from Michael Orla, do you
> have
> > a current address for him?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Matt WIlson
> > Hornblower II
> > White Bear Lake, MN
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:36?PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Multiple locations.
> >> Still being developed, as we can.
> >>
> >> Would love to get together with you sometime, Chris.? It's been a
> million
> >> years.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 11:11?PM Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com
> >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> So where is it being moved to?? Wish I could volunteer, maybe when
> things
> >>> settle down for us.
> >>>
> >>> Chris G.
> >>> Xenos
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 19, 2025, at 8:51?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ?Not so much me, but our wonderful volunteers are making it all
> >> possible!
> >>>>
> >>>> Cindy Spitzer
> >>>> 443-980-7367
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 9:06?PM Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <
> >>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Cindy.? It sounds as though you are undertaking a monumental job.
> >>>>> Thank-you for doing this and for continuing Stan's legacy.
> >>>>> Don Simons, Old Forge, NY
> >>>>>? On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 09:23:59 AM EST, Chris
> >> Geankoplis
> >>> <
> >>>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks Cindy!? Hope you and your family are doing well. I?ll check if
> >> I
> >>>>> need anything once the weather gets out of negative numbers
> >>>>> Chris Geankopli. S/V Xenos
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:00?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ?Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of
> >> physically
> >>>>>> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used
> >> Rhodes
> >>>>>> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other
> items,
> >>>>> large
> >>>>>> and small.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to
> provide
> >>>>>> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery
> >>> options,
> >>>>>> etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate,
> >> and
> >>>>>> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to
> >>>>> Stan's
> >>>>>> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
> >>>>>> otherwise busy lives.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cindy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
> >>>>>> 443-980-7367
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks everyone!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr.
> >> Orla
> >>> is
> >>>>>>> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up.? Are those sails listed on the
> >> website
> >>>>>>> somewhere?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Matt
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <
> >> cindyspitzer at gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes
> >> 22
> >>>>>>>> sails.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
> >>>>>>>> 443-980-7367
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> >>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
> >>>>>>>>> We have spoken about this before.? I bought a IMf mast from ol?
> >> Mike
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> ?2021 or 22.? That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild,
> >>> and
> >>>>>>>>> remains my next project.
> >>>>>>>>> Regarding ?another note?,? I happen to have a Genoa that I might
> >> be
> >>>>>>>>> willing to part with.? It is stashed away currently but I will
> dig
> >>> it
> >>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most
> likely
> >>>>> 1984
> >>>>>>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other
> >> and
> >>>>>>>> check
> >>>>>>>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of? whatever you
> >>> feel
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so
> I
> >>>>>>> might
> >>>>>>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
> >>>>>>>>> Here is my email.
> >>>>>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
> >>>>>>>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
> >>>>>>>>> Ric
> >>>>>>>>> Dadventure
> >>>>>>>>> HBNY
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <
> mwhornblower at gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now.? Many promises
> >>>>>>>> unkept,
> >>>>>>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
> >>>>>>>> patient
> >>>>>>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived.? Very
> >>>>>>> disappointed
> >>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> how this turned out.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Matt
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our
> >> Rhodes
> >>>>>>>>> floated
> >>>>>>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in
> >>> it's
> >>>>>>>>> short
> >>>>>>>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed
> >>> on a
> >>>>>>>>> price,
> >>>>>>>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple
> >> layers
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send
> >>> you
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will
> >> have
> >>>>>>> 2.".
> >>>>>>>>> This
> >>>>>>>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard
> >>> that
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more
> repairs.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> >>>>>>>>>>> Get Outlook for Android<
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ce92a8434f8664015344b08dd5a7ffe70%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638766227963923719%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DvLDfmMdIsLPyB0VTKWQqnl5Nl039Mv0%2FLG0cwe5qco%3D&reserved=0
> <
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ce92a8434f8664015344b08dd5a7ffe70%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638766227963935459%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=XGiWz%2BqsY8GZLzZNSC52X%2FuJKzEVR84lKNZ0ZaU3l1Y%3D&reserved=0
> <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on
> >>> behalf
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I hope your off season is going well.? It won't be long now!
> ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
> >>>>>>>> grateful
> >>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource
> >> regularly
> >>>>>>>>> supplies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla
> >>> parting
> >>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list.? I reached out to his
> >>> offer
> >>>>>>>>> and we
> >>>>>>>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails.? Once he
> >>> shipped
> >>>>>>>> them
> >>>>>>>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set
> of
> >>>>>>> Lees
> >>>>>>>>> Sails
> >>>>>>>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams .
> The
> >>>>>>>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to
> >>> believe
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning.? Which
> >> leads
> >>> me
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> my
> >>>>>>>>>>> question.? As we consider our options to rectify this
> situation,
> >>> it
> >>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and
> >> received
> >>>>>>>> those
> >>>>>>>>>>> North Sails from him.? I of course would hold him fully
> >>> responsible
> >>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>> this if this was truly the case.? I suppose it's a risk I took
> >>>>>>> dealing
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> a private party.? I have found every other sailor to be 100%
> >>> helpful
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> honest.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to
> >> let
> >>> me
> >>>>>>>>> know,
> >>>>>>>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
> >>>>>>>>> situation.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at
> >>> mwhornblower at gmail.com
> >>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>> 612-770-4531
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape
> that
> >>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested.? I don't have
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>> budget at
> >>>>>>>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hornblower II
> >>>>>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>
  

From borderfolle at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 11 22:56:28 2025
From: borderfolle at yahoo.com (Donald Simons)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 02:56:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Birthday
References: <1878446567.1636294.1741748188232.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1878446567.1636294.1741748188232@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Everyone,Today I am thinking of Stan who would have turned 99 years old!? ?I fondly remember his 88th birthday party a number of us enjoyed at the plant in Edenton back in 2014.??What an amazing man he was.
Don Simons,? Old Forge, NY

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Mar 11 23:13:28 2025
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 22:13:28 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Birthday
In-Reply-To: <1878446567.1636294.1741748188232@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1878446567.1636294.1741748188232@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FD7B2967-6541-482C-8FA8-D05EFDA036B6@gmail.com>

Thanks for bringing up such fond memories. He will be remembered and appreciated for the boat but more for what it represented and the life he lived. Now a bit of Stan lives in all of us Rhodies. 
Chris Geankoplis 
XENOS
(gonna get it in the water soon, really)
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2025, at 10:03?PM, Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Everyone,Today I am thinking of Stan who would have turned 99 years old!   I fondly remember his 88th birthday party a number of us enjoyed at the plant in Edenton back in 2014.  What an amazing man he was.
> Don Simons,  Old Forge, NY

From rodellner at mac.com  Tue Mar 11 23:27:41 2025
From: rodellner at mac.com (Rod Ellner)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 21:27:41 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Birthday
In-Reply-To: <FD7B2967-6541-482C-8FA8-D05EFDA036B6@gmail.com>
References: <FD7B2967-6541-482C-8FA8-D05EFDA036B6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71EE2C28-B7A5-4001-9D2E-4124B96E02DF@mac.com>

True so??.we all have our Stan memories??Rod and Mary
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2025, at 9:13?PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks for bringing up such fond memories. He will be remembered and appreciated for the boat but more for what it represented and the life he lived. Now a bit of Stan lives in all of us Rhodies.
> Chris Geankoplis
> XENOS
> (gonna get it in the water soon, really)
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2025, at 10:03?PM, Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hi Everyone,Today I am thinking of Stan who would have turned 99 years old!   I fondly remember his 88th birthday party a number of us enjoyed at the plant in Edenton back in 2014.  What an amazing man he was.
>> Don Simons,  Old Forge, NY

From mrbabins at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 15:00:01 2025
From: mrbabins at gmail.com (Marc Babineau)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 15:00:01 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2007/2013 Rhodes for Sale
Message-ID: <CACEGv_HK3PxOjpUSRp6ym=AUNx73TvqgRuWJHpG2+a8p60fQ_Q@mail.gmail.com>

I apologize if this is a duplicate email - I sent this a few days ago using
my work email and the message may have been scrubbed.



Hello Rhodies



Reality has won the day.  Once upon a time I decided that I wanted to sail.
After some research I concluded that the Rhodes 22 was the sailboat I
needed.  I contacted Mr. Spitzer and learned that Annapolis was the
furthest north he traveled to boat shows. So, in October of 2013, off we
went to Annapolis and we ended up buying a beautiful blue refurbished 2007
model for $35,000.  Funny aside, we did not have enough money for the down
payment, so Stan ?loaned? me the difference.  (Loved that man)



I bought a brand-new single axle Triad trailer to go along with the boat
($5,000) and Stan stored both for the winter.  The following Spring I
picked up the boat in Edenton and brought it to Nortons Marina in East
Greenwich RI on the Narragansett Bay.  My wife and I sailed for three
seasons and when I say sail, I mean attempted to sail !   I think we may
have sailed a total of 25 times.  (my wife has corrected me and said she
would be surprised if it were more than 15 times) Since then, the boat has
been in storage because I really, really liked the idea of being a sailor
and we figured we would get back to it.   I enjoyed being part of the
Rhodes community and Stan?s unique personality captivated me. As a result,
I bought almost every option he could come up with.  Fiberglass tiller ?
check, Bimini top ? check, pop top enclosure ? check, Mast Hoist system ?
check, New adjustable traveler ? check, 130 Genoa (never used)-check ? I
even have the new furling genoa system that I never installed!  The trailer
has only been used for storage and other than the first dip in the
Albemarle when I picked up the boat, has never been in the water.  I am
guessing it has about 1,500 miles on it including the 650 mile home trip
from Edenton.



I have come to the conclusion that we are not going to ever use this
beautiful little boat again. And so, it just sits mocking me every time I
walk by.  Selling the boat will be my second Rhodes heartbreak ? first
being Stan?s passing.  But this boat needs to be sailed, and I thought I
would throw it out to the Rhodies first to gauge interest.  As soon as the
weather permits I will wash off the dust and I?ll test run the little
Tohatsu 6hp sailpro motor to make sure it runs.  I also have the tiller ?
motor steering gizmo.



Please feel free to email me directly at MRBABINS at GMAIL.COM if you have
any questions and at some point I?ll take some photos.



I was thinking it?s worth all of $16,000, unless someone wants to pay more
? The boat is in Massachusetts.



Thanks



Marc Babineau

From snstaum at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 15:22:41 2025
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 15:22:41 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2007/2013 Rhodes for Sale
In-Reply-To: <CACEGv_HK3PxOjpUSRp6ym=AUNx73TvqgRuWJHpG2+a8p60fQ_Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACEGv_HK3PxOjpUSRp6ym=AUNx73TvqgRuWJHpG2+a8p60fQ_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOo_Fjfd-gvXNUkFzNjKG_uw8GF7zUnCV-g25nednow=vj=htw@mail.gmail.com>

Marc,

Where are you located?  I would love to see your boat.


*Thanks and Stay Well,*

*Stephen Staum*
*Needham, MA*



On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 3:00?PM Marc Babineau <mrbabins at gmail.com> wrote:

> I apologize if this is a duplicate email - I sent this a few days ago using
> my work email and the message may have been scrubbed.
>
>
>
> Hello Rhodies
>
>
>
> Reality has won the day.  Once upon a time I decided that I wanted to sail.
> After some research I concluded that the Rhodes 22 was the sailboat I
> needed.  I contacted Mr. Spitzer and learned that Annapolis was the
> furthest north he traveled to boat shows. So, in October of 2013, off we
> went to Annapolis and we ended up buying a beautiful blue refurbished 2007
> model for $35,000.  Funny aside, we did not have enough money for the down
> payment, so Stan ?loaned? me the difference.  (Loved that man)
>
>
>
> I bought a brand-new single axle Triad trailer to go along with the boat
> ($5,000) and Stan stored both for the winter.  The following Spring I
> picked up the boat in Edenton and brought it to Nortons Marina in East
> Greenwich RI on the Narragansett Bay.  My wife and I sailed for three
> seasons and when I say sail, I mean attempted to sail !   I think we may
> have sailed a total of 25 times.  (my wife has corrected me and said she
> would be surprised if it were more than 15 times) Since then, the boat has
> been in storage because I really, really liked the idea of being a sailor
> and we figured we would get back to it.   I enjoyed being part of the
> Rhodes community and Stan?s unique personality captivated me. As a result,
> I bought almost every option he could come up with.  Fiberglass tiller ?
> check, Bimini top ? check, pop top enclosure ? check, Mast Hoist system ?
> check, New adjustable traveler ? check, 130 Genoa (never used)-check ? I
> even have the new furling genoa system that I never installed!  The trailer
> has only been used for storage and other than the first dip in the
> Albemarle when I picked up the boat, has never been in the water.  I am
> guessing it has about 1,500 miles on it including the 650 mile home trip
> from Edenton.
>
>
>
> I have come to the conclusion that we are not going to ever use this
> beautiful little boat again. And so, it just sits mocking me every time I
> walk by.  Selling the boat will be my second Rhodes heartbreak ? first
> being Stan?s passing.  But this boat needs to be sailed, and I thought I
> would throw it out to the Rhodies first to gauge interest.  As soon as the
> weather permits I will wash off the dust and I?ll test run the little
> Tohatsu 6hp sailpro motor to make sure it runs.  I also have the tiller ?
> motor steering gizmo.
>
>
>
> Please feel free to email me directly at MRBABINS at GMAIL.COM if you have
> any questions and at some point I?ll take some photos.
>
>
>
> I was thinking it?s worth all of $16,000, unless someone wants to pay more
> ? The boat is in Massachusetts.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Marc Babineau
>

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Fri Mar 28 00:00:27 2025
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 00:00:27 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW: 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale
In-Reply-To: <CAJM+vruYEFNnWeLbvRQCr=87580BEY+0E+vOKqo6-_rTCR2JJw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.2356.1743134432.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>

This posting was sent to the list admin, not the list.Anyone interested in what appears to be a nice boat?
-------- Original message --------From: Robert Weinberg <robert at pamayared.com> Date: 3/27/25  2:51 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: rhodes22-list-owner at rhodes22.org Subject: 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale Been on the hard 2 years since my surgery. Unfortunately I am not able to sail anymore. Reverie is in very good condition with 9.9 Yamaha and sails also good condition. Will need cleaning, but that's all. Also have new auto pilot, never? installed. Located Safe Harbour, West Haverstraw, NY

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Fri Mar 28 00:01:49 2025
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 00:01:49 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW: 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale
In-Reply-To: <CAJM+vrunFuk5hj3TUs8FwbJ3Wve7Z4tQZ+qTc-D=0hJGSdLd6w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.2357.1743134522.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>

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From cindyspitzer at gmail.com  Fri Mar 28 08:53:31 2025
From: cindyspitzer at gmail.com (Cindy Spitzer)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 08:53:31 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW: 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale
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Any description?
Location?


On Fri, Mar 28, 2025, 12:02?AM Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
wrote:

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> interested in what appears to be a nice boat?
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From robert at pamayared.com  Fri Mar 28 09:00:12 2025
From: robert at pamayared.com (Robert Weinberg)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 09:00:12 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW: 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale
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Sorry. Located at Safe Harbor in West Haverstraw, NY. Asking $10,000 obo

On Fri, Mar 28, 2025, 8:53?AM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Any description?
> Location?
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2025, 12:02?AM Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This posting (pictures) was sent to the list admin, not the list.Anyone
> > interested in what appears to be a nice boat?
> > -------- Original message --------From: Robert Weinberg <
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From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Fri Mar 28 17:55:39 2025
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 17:55:39 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale
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Sorry, but I need remedial instruction ? how does one post pictures or a PDF (if allowed) to the list?  Reluctantly, we are going to sell our Rhodes, as we just do not sail it enough and hate for it to go to waste.

Thanks,

Frank

Frank Goldsmith
S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
Fairview, NC
Lake Keowee, SC


> On Mar 28, 2025, at 12:01?AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> 
> This posting (pictures) was sent to the list admin, not the list.Anyone interested in what appears to be a nice boat?
> -------- Original message --------From: Robert Weinberg <robert at pamayared.com> Date: 3/27/25  2:54 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: rhodes22-list-owner at rhodes22.org Subject: 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale 
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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Fri Mar 28 19:35:28 2025
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 19:35:28 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale
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Frank,

Just attach the photo or pdf to your email and a link will appear at the bottom of the email post.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY
I?d rather be sailing :~)

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Frank Goldsmith
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2025 5:56 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale

Sorry, but I need remedial instruction ? how does one post pictures or a PDF (if allowed) to the list?  Reluctantly, we are going to sell our Rhodes, as we just do not sail it enough and hate for it to go to waste.

Thanks,

Frank

Frank Goldsmith
S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
Fairview, NC
Lake Keowee, SC


> On Mar 28, 2025, at 12:01?AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> 
> This posting (pictures) was sent to the list admin, not the list.Anyone interested in what appears to be a nice boat?
> -------- Original message --------From: Robert Weinberg 
> <robert at pamayared.com> Date: 3/27/25  2:54 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
> rhodes22-list-owner at rhodes22.org Subject: 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale
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From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Fri Mar 28 20:10:50 2025
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 20:10:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale
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Message-ID: <56D88E15-0FCA-4E60-A3B2-DA8520A86329@gmail.com>

Thanks, Mike. I'll try that. 

Frank 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 28, 2025, at 7:55?PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Frank,
> 
> Just attach the photo or pdf to your email and a link will appear at the bottom of the email post.
> 
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> I?d rather be sailing :~)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Frank Goldsmith
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2025 5:56 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale
> 
> Sorry, but I need remedial instruction ? how does one post pictures or a PDF (if allowed) to the list?  Reluctantly, we are going to sell our Rhodes, as we just do not sail it enough and hate for it to go to waste.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Frank
> 
> Frank Goldsmith
> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
> Fairview, NC
> Lake Keowee, SC
> 
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2025, at 12:01?AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
>> 
>> This posting (pictures) was sent to the list admin, not the list.Anyone interested in what appears to be a nice boat?
>> -------- Original message --------From: Robert Weinberg
>> <robert at pamayared.com> Date: 3/27/25  2:54 PM  (GMT-05:00) To:
>> rhodes22-list-owner at rhodes22.org Subject: 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale
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From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Sat Mar 29 10:02:39 2025
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2025 10:02:39 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale
In-Reply-To: <56D88E15-0FCA-4E60-A3B2-DA8520A86329@gmail.com>
References: <004601dba03a$1745a870$45d0f950$@ebsmed.com>
 <56D88E15-0FCA-4E60-A3B2-DA8520A86329@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPQvPRrQ_nyreZaicxyuh-m6xw=+c5MbuTaRrDoYQc6zoo580g@mail.gmail.com>

Frank, how much are you asking? Buyers like to know if it is within their
budget.

On Fri, Mar 28, 2025, 8:11?PM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks, Mike. I'll try that.
>
> Frank
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 28, 2025, at 7:55?PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Frank,
> >
> > Just attach the photo or pdf to your email and a link will appear at the
> bottom of the email post.
> >
> > Mike
> > s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> > Nissequogue River, NY
> > I?d rather be sailing :~)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Frank Goldsmith
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2025 5:56 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale
> >
> > Sorry, but I need remedial instruction ? how does one post pictures or a
> PDF (if allowed) to the list?  Reluctantly, we are going to sell our
> Rhodes, as we just do not sail it enough and hate for it to go to waste.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > Frank Goldsmith
> > S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
> > Fairview, NC
> > Lake Keowee, SC
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 28, 2025, at 12:01?AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> This posting (pictures) was sent to the list admin, not the list.Anyone
> interested in what appears to be a nice boat?
> >> -------- Original message --------From: Robert Weinberg
> >> <robert at pamayared.com> Date: 3/27/25  2:54 PM  (GMT-05:00) To:
> >> rhodes22-list-owner at rhodes22.org Subject: 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale
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From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Mon Mar 31 19:30:56 2025
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2025 19:30:56 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale
In-Reply-To: <CAPQvPRrQ_nyreZaicxyuh-m6xw=+c5MbuTaRrDoYQc6zoo580g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <004601dba03a$1745a870$45d0f950$@ebsmed.com>
 <56D88E15-0FCA-4E60-A3B2-DA8520A86329@gmail.com>
 <CAPQvPRrQ_nyreZaicxyuh-m6xw=+c5MbuTaRrDoYQc6zoo580g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3AFCBB45-1ADE-4ECB-962B-909135B7AA33@gmail.com>

Cary,

Sorry for the delay.  I?m asking $9500, as it comes with an almost-new Torqeedo electric motor, new sails, new tires and lights on the trailer, etc.  I plan to post an ad and photos on the listserv soon; I just haven?t had time (maybe the procrastination is a sign that I?m really not ready to sell her!).  

Thanks,

Frank

Frank Goldsmith
S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
Fairview, NC
Lake Keowee, SC


> On Mar 29, 2025, at 10:02?AM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Frank, how much are you asking? Buyers like to know if it is within their
> budget.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2025, 8:11?PM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Mike. I'll try that.
>> 
>> Frank
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2025, at 7:55?PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Frank,
>>> 
>>> Just attach the photo or pdf to your email and a link will appear at the
>> bottom of the email post.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>> I?d rather be sailing :~)
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>> Frank Goldsmith
>>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2025 5:56 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale
>>> 
>>> Sorry, but I need remedial instruction ? how does one post pictures or a
>> PDF (if allowed) to the list?  Reluctantly, we are going to sell our
>> Rhodes, as we just do not sail it enough and hate for it to go to waste.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Frank
>>> 
>>> Frank Goldsmith
>>> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
>>> Fairview, NC
>>> Lake Keowee, SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 28, 2025, at 12:01?AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This posting (pictures) was sent to the list admin, not the list.Anyone
>> interested in what appears to be a nice boat?
>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Robert Weinberg
>>>> <robert at pamayared.com> Date: 3/27/25  2:54 PM  (GMT-05:00) To:
>>>> rhodes22-list-owner at rhodes22.org Subject: 2012 Rhodes 22 for sale
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>>