[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4617, Issue 1

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>    1. Re: Mast Raising system (Todd Tavares)
>    2. great hearing from folks (sea20 at verizon.net)
>    3. Saying goodbye to the list (Frank Goldsmith)
>    4. Re: Rhodes22.org and email list are back! (Donald Simons)
>    5. Re: Rhodes22.org and email list are back! (Michael D. Weisner)
>    6. Re: Saying goodbye to the list (Michael Natale)
>    7. Re: Sanford Lake News (Ric Stott)
>    8. Re: Stand up microblock (Michael McKay)
>    9. Re: Thinking of Stan Today (Michael McKay)
>   10. Re: Sanford Lake News (Chris Geankoplis)
>   11. Out haul rigging (BARRY RUEHLEN)
>   12. Re: Out haul rigging (ROGER PIHLAJA)
>   13. Re: Out haul rigging (Peter Nyberg)
>   14. Re: Out haul rigging (Weiss, Robert L)
>   15. Re: Out haul rigging (BARRY RUEHLEN)
>   16. Re: Out haul rigging (Peter Nyberg)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2026 09:41:20 -0400
> From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> To: Tom Hyatt <thyatt at mica.edu>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Raising system
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> Tom,
>
> I have made my own some years ago which was similar to the GB system.
>
> I also have a lot of pictures of the GB system on an old laptop somewhere;
> enough that you could make an exact copy.
>
> Give me a day or so and I will send you what I have. The two exact
> dimensions I don't know are the height of the attachment point of the winch
> on the gin pole and the height above the transom for the roller on the mast
> cradle. I imagine someone would help out with these dimensions.
>
> There is also a video on YouTube where Stan's guys were showing a buyer how
> to set up the boat. I think it was close to an hour long.
>
> I will send what I have directly to your email address.
>
> Todd T.
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2026, 1:07?AM Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello Rhodes Owners:
> >
> > I have been using a home-made gin pole system for raising and lowering my
> > mast but I would like to build or purchase the system similar to the one
> > that Stan developed - the metal pole with winch attached that hooks on
> > mid-point to the mast and is affixed to the foredeck via a bolted-down
> > block. Does anyone know where I might purchase one or if there are plans
> > anywhere that might guide me in building one?
> >
> > I have seen a number of similar systems on-line but I'd like to have the
> > correct dimensions for the Rhodes 22 if I take it upon myself to
> construct
> > one.
> >
> > Thanks for your help in advance.
> >
> > Tom Hyatt
> > Eliza Jane 1978
> > Middle River, Maryland
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2026 13:49:05 +0000 (UTC)
> From: "sea20 at verizon.net" <sea20 at verizon.net>
> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] great hearing from folks
> Message-ID: <976548721.2105171.1777211345514 at mail.yahoo.com>
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> Greetings all, one of the joys of spring has become news from other Rhodes
> fans. Sorry to hear of your issues Roger. I hope you adapt to the changes.
> I think about half of my Rhodes 22 knowledge has come from you. But what I
> really want to know is where did you get that great hat! lol? ? As for
> memories of Stan I was preparing for mast raising and one of Stans
> wordsmith phrases came to mind, " Don't override any complaints".?? ? I did
> some spring cleaning and have a few extra parts that are free for the
> shipping if anyone is in need.good to hear from everyone.Scott Andrews
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2026 11:07:54 -0400
> From: Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Saying goodbye to the list
> Message-ID: <3755239F-5388-46DF-ACF9-A895019E7F2A at gmail.com>
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>
> Fellow Rhodies,
>
> This revival of the list reminds me that I never got around to leaving
> it.  Sadly, we sold our boat last August, and I think my sailing days are
> past me at this point.  I?ve enjoyed keeping up with all you folks and
> being able to ask questions occasionally and get helpful answers ? and I
> was lucky enough even to visit with Stan a few years ago in Edenton and
> pose a question to the master himself (which he eventually got around to
> answering, after a long but interesting detour to tell me some of his life
> story).  What a great guy.  The Rhodes manual is the best example of
> humorous instructional writing that I?ve ever seen.
>
> I think I?ve figured out how to go to the admin page and unsubscribe, so
> I?ll do that soon.  You all are a helpful community, and I?m grateful to
> have found Da List.
>
> Fair winds and following seas to all,
>
> Frank
>
> Frank Goldsmith
> Former owner of S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
> Fairview, NC
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2026 16:18:08 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Donald Simons <borderfolle at yahoo.com>
> To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22.org and email list are back!
> Message-ID: <1879662532.2128360.1777220288654 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>  Hi Mike,
> Thank-you for restoring the email list server.? Are you accepting
> donations for the cost of running it?
> Don Simons, Old Forge, NY
>
>     On Sunday, April 26, 2026 at 08:26:03 AM EDT, Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Thanks Mike for all your work!
> Chris G.
> XENOS
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 26, 2026, at 1:28?AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?The Rhodes 22 email list server has been restored and appears to be
> working again. I'm sorry for any inconvenience. Please let me know if you
> experience any problems posting. Regards,Mike
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2026 12:27:49 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> To: Donald Simons <borderfolle at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22.org and email list are back!
> Message-ID: H2KkwFK1AYO6jH2KlwkI9u at eig-obgw-6007b.ext.cloudfilter.net
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Several years ago, Peter Nyberg spent a good deal of time on our website.
> One of the items he added to our initial landing page was a donation button
> that is located on the bottom of?http://rhodes22.org/index.html. I have
> been using this to offset the cost of operation of the site and email
> service. I'm planning to add a? security certificate and upgrade the email
> security product using these funds.? Mike.
> -------- Original message --------From: Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Date: 4/26/26  12:18 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: The
> Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re:
> [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22.org and email list are back!  Hi Mike,Thank-you
> for restoring the email list server.? Are you accepting donations for the
> cost of running it?Don Simons, Old Forge, NY??? On Sunday, April 26, 2026
> at 08:26:03 AM EDT, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:?
>  Thanks Mike for all your work!Chris G. XENOS Sent from my iPhone> On Apr
> 26, 2026, at 1:28?AM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:> >
> ?The Rhodes 22 email list server has been restored and appears to be
> working again. I'm sorry for any inconvenience. Please let me know if you
> experience any problems posting. Regards,Mike?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2026 16:55:28 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Michael Natale <bigzeke41 at yahoo.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Saying goodbye to the list
> Message-ID: <964043498.3217768.1777222528927 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Thank you.?
>
>     On Sunday, April 26, 2026 at 11:07:58 AM EDT, Frank Goldsmith <
> goldsmith.cf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Fellow Rhodies,
>
> This revival of the list reminds me that I never got around to leaving
> it.? Sadly, we sold our boat last August, and I think my sailing days are
> past me at this point.? I?ve enjoyed keeping up with all you folks and
> being able to ask questions occasionally and get helpful answers ? and I
> was lucky enough even to visit with Stan a few years ago in Edenton and
> pose a question to the master himself (which he eventually got around to
> answering, after a long but interesting detour to tell me some of his life
> story).? What a great guy.? The Rhodes manual is the best example of
> humorous instructional writing that I?ve ever seen.
>
> I think I?ve figured out how to go to the admin page and unsubscribe, so
> I?ll do that soon.? You all are a helpful community, and I?m grateful to
> have found Da List.?
>
> Fair winds and following seas to all,
>
> Frank
>
> Frank Goldsmith
> Former owner of S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
> Fairview, NC
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2026 15:17:03 -0400
> From: Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sanford Lake News
> Message-ID:
>         <F618E347-AAFD-407E-BF11-B08868376BB2 at stottarchitecture.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> First, it?s nice to see ?da list? fired up again
> 2nd So sorry to here about Roger?s wows natural / manmade disasters and
> the resultant judicial injustice. My heart aches for Roger and I hope he
> finds relief and justice in the appeal.  I keep my boat on a mooring with
> no dingy dock and find it harder every year to manage a tender. I use a 12?
> inflatable Stand Up Paddle board that is light enough to throw on my roof
> racks but gets heavier every year.  My semi-courageous wife puts on her
> life vest and climbs on the back, we pile our gear and picnic in front and
> I paddle 75 yards to the mooring. At low tide it?s easier to walk. Coming
> home in the dark with a breeze on can be an exciting challenge. (A royal
> PITA) according to my semi-courageous wife.
> The Rhodes 22 is a hands -on , DIY kind of boat. Most  of us have made
> repairs and added extras we never dreamed we even knew how to do. In the
> past we had Stan to call, ask and get cryptic answers that made us  think
> harder. And sometimes he even had parts to sell, shipped with the promise
> we would send a check someday.
> Three cheers for his 100 years.
> In my fantasies, I add foils to Dadventure and sail it around the Med like
> Chris and his fully courageous wife, only 3x faster.
> In reality, my back is failing and it?s harder to make even simple repairs
> much less major improvements like the fancy cabin sole I always wanted.
>
> I?m looking forward to this season and I might even get the time to
> rebuild and install the IMF mast I collected all the parts for.
> So Rhodes. Good luck with all you spring upgrades, cleanups and launches.
> Enjoy at least one more season with our treasured R22s.
> Last but not least I want to acknowledge ?da list? for being there,
> sharing stories and answering questions. Always look forward to hearing
> from y?all.
>
> Ric Stott
> SV  Dadventure
> Hampton Bays NY.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 26, 2026, at 9:32?AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Hi Chris,
> >
> > Prior to the flood, the 4 dams were owned and operated by Boyce
> Hydroelectric.  Tge dams were nearly 100 years old.  The flood bankrupted
> Boyce Hydro.  The 4 dams are now owned by Midland and Gladwin counties.
> But, they are managed on behalf of the county governments by the 4 Lakes
> Association, a group of lakefront property owners.  The 4 Lakes Association
> convinced the county governments to form the 4 Lakes Special Water
> District, which gave them the power to levy annual water district
> assessments to pay for the cleanup, rebuilding, and operations of the 4
> dams.  This assessment shows up on my property tax bill every year.  Long
> story short, the dams were rebuilt and operated by private money.  The 4
> Lakes Association is like a super powerful neighborhood homeowner?s
> association.  Lots of oversight and snooping.
> >
> > I can?t launch my boat from my property.  But, my subdivision has a
> launch ramp about 1/4 mile from my house.  No mooring out is allowed.
> >
> > Of the ~k$90 damages, ~k$45 has already been spent back in 1990 to
> remove flood debris and stabilize the shoreline.  We were counting on the
> class action lawsuit settlement to pay for most of the remaining repairs
> (replacement) to our dock, sea walls, and steps.  We?re retired and living
> on a fixed income.  With no settlement, we?re going to have to drastically
> scale back our plans, if we do anything at all.  Another option is to sell
> the boat.
> >
> > This is the sort of thing that really shakes one?s faith in the judicial
> system.
> >
> > Sorry to be such Debbie Downer; but, I needed to vent!
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > 1978. Sanford, MI
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Apr 26, 2026, at 8:18?AM, Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Wow, Roger,
> >> That is really bad. Insurance doesn?t cover and though the state built
> the dams ( is that correct?) they are putting a lot of the burden on you.
> Sorry to heat this. Can you launch the Rhodes from your property?  Mooring
> the boat and dinghy out?  I hope you can get some sailing in soon!
> >> Chris Geankoplis
> >> XENOS
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On Apr 26, 2026, at 6:59?AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> Nearly 6 years after the 4 dam failures and the subsequent flood, our
> dam has been rebuilt.  All State and Federal permits have been signed off.
> Refilling Sanford Lake commenced on April 15th.  The lake should be at
> normal summer pool level by Memorial Day.  Secord Lake dam and Smallwood
> Lake dam are scheduled to be complete and lake filling to commence around
> Labor Day.  Wixom Lake dam won?t be ready until the summer if 2027.
> >>>
> >>> My property taxes have tripled to pay for all this.  The courts have
> ruled against the property owners in our class action lawsuit vs the State
> of Michigan.  The property owners will get nothing.  My property losses are
> about k$90!  + the 3X increased annual taxes!  It?s the biggest financial
> hit in my life.  Our side is appealing the case; but, this iis certainly
> not good news.
> >>>
> >>> In a final irony, I?m still waiting for the State to approve the
> permit for my dock.  So, I will have a lake, but no dock this summer.
> >>>
> >>> Other than that, life is dull.  I hope you all are having a better
> spring than me.
> >>>
> >>> Roger Pihlaja
> >>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >>> 1978. Sanford, MI
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>>> On Apr 26, 2026, at 12:58?AM, Paul Rhodes <plrhodes29 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ?Fellow Rhodes 22 clan members, especially ye who own or have seen a
> boom
> >>>> room with your own eyes, does the attached photo show parts to a Boom
> >>>> Room?  We've never seen one beyond a picture lacking much detail, but
> we
> >>>> want one, and if this is part of one, we hope to start with it and
> complete
> >>>> our own.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you own a boom room, pictures and other details would be a
> tremendous
> >>>> help!  (If you have one you would like to sell, that's even better.)
> >>>>
> >>>> May you all have a wonderful start to the 2026 sailing season once
> >>>> Puxatawny Phil's six weeks are past,
> >>>>
> >>>> Paul and Nancy Rhodes
> >>>> SV New Mercies
> >>>> -------------- next part --------------
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> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2026 15:33:26 -0400
> From: Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Cc: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Stand up microblock
> Message-ID: <F4EBEF96-D1DC-48D1-AA36-CEF8DF09BB54 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I had the same issue a few years ago.  In my case the block was badly worn
> and a cheek was broken.  It was an easy repair.
>
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 26, 2026, at 8:29?AM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Thanks for the info Scott. Same symptoms, maybe same cure?
> > Chris G.
> > XENOS
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Apr 26, 2026, at 12:07?AM, Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?
> >> Sent from my iPhoneGreetings all. Last fall I was having trouble
> getting my main hauled out of the mast and I finally noticed when I pulled
> it at the clew it unfurled with ease. A flat spot on the block at the end
> of the boom was causing the problem.
> >> Scott Andrews
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2026 22:50:13 -0400
> From: Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Cc: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Thinking of Stan Today
> Message-ID: <29A94E3B-AF64-4790-8AB6-2115A5BFA2BC at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Indeed! He was quite the character and had a brilliant mind, even into his
> late 90?s. And the stories he could tell?
>
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 26, 2026, at 7:13?PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Don, how kind of you to remember and share your thoughts with the list.
> > Chris G.
> > XENOS
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Apr 25, 2026, at 11:58?PM, Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Hi Everyone,
> >> Today I find myself thinking of Stan, as this would have been his 100th
> Birthday.  I'm sure that many of you will agree that he was a most unique
> person who enriched our lives.  The Rhodes 22 is a wonderful legacy to Stan
> and his family.
> >> Don Simons,Old Forge, NY
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2026 23:18:33 -0500
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Cc: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sanford Lake News
> Message-ID: <B091CE76-9833-44B0-BA14-5F7C5D6F12DC at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hey
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 26, 2026, at 8:49?AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Hi Chris,
> >
> > Prior to the flood, the 4 dams were owned and operated by Boyce
> Hydroelectric.  Tge dams were nearly 100 years old.  The flood bankrupted
> Boyce Hydro.  The 4 dams are now owned by Midland and Gladwin counties.
> But, they are managed on behalf of the county governments by the 4 Lakes
> Association, a group of lakefront property owners.  The 4 Lakes Association
> convinced the county governments to form the 4 Lakes Special Water
> District, which gave them the power to levy annual water district
> assessments to pay for the cleanup, rebuilding, and operations of the 4
> dams.  This assessment shows up on my property tax bill every year.  Long
> story short, the dams were rebuilt and operated by private money.  The 4
> Lakes Association is like a super powerful neighborhood homeowner?s
> association.  Lots of oversight and snooping.
> >
> > I can?t launch my boat from my property.  But, my subdivision has a
> launch ramp about 1/4 mile from my house.  No mooring out is allowed.
> >
> > Of the ~k$90 damages, ~k$45 has already been spent back in 1990 to
> remove flood debris and stabilize the shoreline.  We were counting on the
> class action lawsuit settlement to pay for most of the remaining repairs
> (replacement) to our dock, sea walls, and steps.  We?re retired and living
> on a fixed income.  With no settlement, we?re going to have to drastically
> scale back our plans, if we do anything at all.  Another option is to sell
> the boat.
> >
> > This is the sort of thing that really shakes one?s faith in the judicial
> system.
> >
> > Sorry to be such Debbie Downer; but, I needed to vent!
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > 1978. Sanford, MI
> > Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> > Hey Roger,
> Venting is good. Ask Mt. St. Helen?s.
>
> >> On Apr 26, 2026, at 8:18?AM, Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Wow, Roger,
> >> That is really bad. Insurance doesn?t cover and though the state built
> the dams ( is that correct?) they are putting a lot of the burden on you.
> Sorry to heat this. Can you launch the Rhodes from your property?  Mooring
> the boat and dinghy out?  I hope you can get some sailing in soon!
> >> Chris Geankoplis
> >> XENOS
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On Apr 26, 2026, at 6:59?AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> Nearly 6 years after the 4 dam failures and the subsequent flood, our
> dam has been rebuilt.  All State and Federal permits have been signed off.
> Refilling Sanford Lake commenced on April 15th.  The lake should be at
> normal summer pool level by Memorial Day.  Secord Lake dam and Smallwood
> Lake dam are scheduled to be complete and lake filling to commence around
> Labor Day.  Wixom Lake dam won?t be ready until the summer if 2027.
> >>>
> >>> My property taxes have tripled to pay for all this.  The courts have
> ruled against the property owners in our class action lawsuit vs the State
> of Michigan.  The property owners will get nothing.  My property losses are
> about k$90!  + the 3X increased annual taxes!  It?s the biggest financial
> hit in my life.  Our side is appealing the case; but, this iis certainly
> not good news.
> >>>
> >>> In a final irony, I?m still waiting for the State to approve the
> permit for my dock.  So, I will have a lake, but no dock this summer.
> >>>
> >>> Other than that, life is dull.  I hope you all are having a better
> spring than me.
> >>>
> >>> Roger Pihlaja
> >>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >>> 1978. Sanford, MI
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>>> On Apr 26, 2026, at 12:58?AM, Paul Rhodes <plrhodes29 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ?Fellow Rhodes 22 clan members, especially ye who own or have seen a
> boom
> >>>> room with your own eyes, does the attached photo show parts to a Boom
> >>>> Room?  We've never seen one beyond a picture lacking much detail, but
> we
> >>>> want one, and if this is part of one, we hope to start with it and
> complete
> >>>> our own.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you own a boom room, pictures and other details would be a
> tremendous
> >>>> help!  (If you have one you would like to sell, that's even better.)
> >>>>
> >>>> May you all have a wonderful start to the 2026 sailing season once
> >>>> Puxatawny Phil's six weeks are past,
> >>>>
> >>>> Paul and Nancy Rhodes
> >>>> SV New Mercies
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 14:55:31 +0000
> From: BARRY RUEHLEN <RUEHBL at msn.com>
> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul rigging
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> OK, it's time to ask for guidance. My sailboat partner and I have the
> rebuild of our 87 Rhodes about 98% complete.  We are finding that we don't
> have our main rigged properly for haul out so we have to add some hand
> tugging along the way. I looked through the archives for pictures and
> descriptions but it's not working for me. That includes a colorful
> description from Stan. We have the old style metal car but haven't figured
> the proper way to put it all together. I've included a photo of the car and
> the aft termination. I did not show how we currently put together as I know
> it's wrong. The clew has an attachment point that is also a built in pulley
> if you wanted to use it as such. I think that's what is throwing us off.
> If I could get a picture with a description, maybe I could follow along.
> Best,
> Barry. Rhodes 22 saint james city Fl.
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 17:28:43 +0000
> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul rigging
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> Hi Barry,
>
> Thanks for the pictures.  But, what I'm not seeing is the cleat you use to
> secure the outhaul.  In heavy air, the mainsail's foot needs at least a 2:1
> mechanical advantage to obtain the proper sail shape with the standard
> rig.  With the innermast furling mechanism adding friction, I wouldn't be
> surprised if 3:1 or even 4:1 were required.  Without seeing the cleat, I
> would think the outhaul would start at the hole in the fitting on the end
> of the boom, run to the block on the clew, back to the small block on the
> boom, and then to the cleat.  Try that and let me know how it works for you.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 1978  Sanford, MI
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> BARRY RUEHLEN <RUEHBL at msn.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2026 10:55 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul rigging
>
> OK, it's time to ask for guidance. My sailboat partner and I have the
> rebuild of our 87 Rhodes about 98% complete.  We are finding that we don't
> have our main rigged properly for haul out so we have to add some hand
> tugging along the way. I looked through the archives for pictures and
> descriptions but it's not working for me. That includes a colorful
> description from Stan. We have the old style metal car but haven't figured
> the proper way to put it all together. I've included a photo of the car and
> the aft termination. I did not show how we currently put together as I know
> it's wrong. The clew has an attachment point that is also a built in pulley
> if you wanted to use it as such. I think that's what is throwing us off.
> If I could get a picture with a description, maybe I could follow along.
> Best,
> Barry. Rhodes 22 saint james city Fl.
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 17:49:59 -0400
> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul rigging
> Message-ID: <36C1654A-E428-4642-9004-CCE89F854B8F at sunnybeeches.com>
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>
> Barry,
>
> The pulley built into the clew of the sail is something I have never seen
> before.  It definitely throws a wrinkle into the configuration.
>
> Usually, the outhaul line goes around the pulley (or block) on the car
> (which gives you the 2:1 mechanical advantage), and the car is attached to
> the the clew of the sail.  When I got my boat, the car-to-clew attachment
> was done with a shackle.  The shackle eventually failed, and I replaced it
> with a continuous loop of dyneema.
>
> My boat is still under its winter tarp, so I can't post a picture.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
> > On Apr 27, 2026, at 10:55?AM, BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > OK, it's time to ask for guidance. My sailboat partner and I have the
> rebuild of our 87 Rhodes about 98% complete.  We are finding that we don't
> have our main rigged properly for haul out so we have to add some hand
> tugging along the way. I looked through the archives for pictures and
> descriptions but it's not working for me. That includes a colorful
> description from Stan. We have the old style metal car but haven't figured
> the proper way to put it all together. I've included a photo of the car and
> the aft termination. I did not show how we currently put together as I know
> it's wrong. The clew has an attachment point that is also a built in pulley
> if you wanted to use it as such. I think that's what is throwing us off.
> > If I could get a picture with a description, maybe I could follow along.
> > Best,
> > Barry. Rhodes 22 saint james city Fl.
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 21:58:09 +0000
> From: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul rigging
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> Here is my outhaul block
>
> [Image.jpeg]
>
> Dr. Robert L Weiss Jr.
> Director of Music
> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
> Professor Emeritus, SIUC
> s/v Beach Spring
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2026 4:49:59 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul rigging
>
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.
>
> Barry,
>
> The pulley built into the clew of the sail is something I have never seen
> before.  It definitely throws a wrinkle into the configuration.
>
> Usually, the outhaul line goes around the pulley (or block) on the car
> (which gives you the 2:1 mechanical advantage), and the car is attached to
> the the clew of the sail.  When I got my boat, the car-to-clew attachment
> was done with a shackle.  The shackle eventually failed, and I replaced it
> with a continuous loop of dyneema.
>
> My boat is still under its winter tarp, so I can't post a picture.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
> > On Apr 27, 2026, at 10:55?AM, BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > OK, it's time to ask for guidance. My sailboat partner and I have the
> rebuild of our 87 Rhodes about 98% complete.  We are finding that we don't
> have our main rigged properly for haul out so we have to add some hand
> tugging along the way. I looked through the archives for pictures and
> descriptions but it's not working for me. That includes a colorful
> description from Stan. We have the old style metal car but haven't figured
> the proper way to put it all together. I've included a photo of the car and
> the aft termination. I did not show how we currently put together as I know
> it's wrong. The clew has an attachment point that is also a built in pulley
> if you wanted to use it as such. I think that's what is throwing us off.
> > If I could get a picture with a description, maybe I could follow along.
> > Best,
> > Barry. Rhodes 22 saint james city Fl.
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2026 10:41:08 +0000
> From: BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul rigging
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> Thank you Peter,
>  I'll give that a shot. It sounds like trying to incorporate that clew
> pully function is a problem. We have the old style metal car shown in one
> of my photos. In your experience are they serviceable or should we invest
> in the new composite one. Charles has them for $250 or so. Pretty pricey,
> but if they work I guess it would be worth it.
> Best,
> Barry
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2026 5:49 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul rigging
>
> Barry,
>
> The pulley built into the clew of the sail is something I have never seen
> before.  It definitely throws a wrinkle into the configuration.
>
> Usually, the outhaul line goes around the pulley (or block) on the car
> (which gives you the 2:1 mechanical advantage), and the car is attached to
> the the clew of the sail.  When I got my boat, the car-to-clew attachment
> was done with a shackle.  The shackle eventually failed, and I replaced it
> with a continuous loop of dyneema.
>
> My boat is still under its winter tarp, so I can't post a picture.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
> > On Apr 27, 2026, at 10:55?AM, BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > OK, it's time to ask for guidance. My sailboat partner and I have the
> rebuild of our 87 Rhodes about 98% complete.  We are finding that we don't
> have our main rigged properly for haul out so we have to add some hand
> tugging along the way. I looked through the archives for pictures and
> descriptions but it's not working for me. That includes a colorful
> description from Stan. We have the old style metal car but haven't figured
> the proper way to put it all together. I've included a photo of the car and
> the aft termination. I did not show how we currently put together as I know
> it's wrong. The clew has an attachment point that is also a built in pulley
> if you wanted to use it as such. I think that's what is throwing us off.
> > If I could get a picture with a description, maybe I could follow along.
> > Best,
> > Barry. Rhodes 22 saint james city Fl.
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > Get Outlook for Android<
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7C20bda0493f764dfed1f408dea4a6f7d6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C639129234223431186%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=UwLWZogBQoXZm4O0eSlg5HyOMHzUzJzrvWASm2sP6Yo%3D&reserved=0
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2026 08:56:13 -0400
> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul rigging
> Message-ID: <CD5FA2C1-6AC0-482F-8CEA-3A3007BEECA6 at sunnybeeches.com>
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> Barry,
>
> I have no experience with the metal car.  I wouldn't spend $250 for a new
> car until the old one has proven itself to be unsatisfactory in some way.
>
> It's good to hear that Charles is still in the parts business though...
>
> --Peter
>
> > On Apr 28, 2026, at 6:41?AM, BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Peter,
> > I'll give that a shot. It sounds like trying to incorporate that clew
> pully function is a problem. We have the old style metal car shown in one
> of my photos. In your experience are they serviceable or should we invest
> in the new composite one. Charles has them for $250 or so. Pretty pricey,
> but if they work I guess it would be worth it.
> > Best,
> > Barry
> >
>
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