[Rhodes22-list] IMF Problem
Bill Berner
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:55:32 -0400
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Carol
I'm not sure I understand your question about the plate pulling up.
I do not have the mast hoisting option. I raise the mast by waving 10
dollar bills around the ramp until I recruit a couple of people.
Do you mean the tabernacle, which is the U shaped piece of steel that
the mast sits on and is bolted through? If so be very careful when you
drop the mast. I would probably do it with at least three other people
- 3 to walk the mast down, and 2 at the base of the mast, "Footing" it
to keep it in place, in case the screws let go. I'd also get it down
quickly to limit the amount of time there is strain on the screws.
Once the mast is down, I would remove the tabernacle and remount it with
larger screws. DO NOT THROUGH BOLT IT TO THE COACH ROOF TO THE CABIN.
It should be able to tear out in the event of a failure. If you were to
through bolt it and the mast came down for some reason, it would dear
out large amounts of fiberglass and core.
If the plate your talking about is some piece of the moist hoist system,
ignore all of the above.
BB
Bill Berner
191 South Broadway
Hastings on Hudson, NY 10706
v 914 478 2896
f 914 478 3856
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-admin@rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-admin@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:15 PM
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] IMF Problem
you need to get the plate back down, make sure the line is one the
foward part of the cleat and the mast carry is holding the mast up. if
the mast is to far down it puts alot of prussure on that plate. The
screew are in "shere", I would check with stan, but drilling the plate
for the next 2 screew sizes up and using 5200 should fit it.
MJM
----- Original Message -----
From: CarolN8@aol.com
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] IMF Problem
Bill,
What you describe about the plastic inside the mast being off or broken
makes sense. I can tell the pole is not where it is supposed to be
unless the block is on the deck (which pushes the pole to where it needs
to be). I'm never insulted by questions. I was having major problem
with the sail while sailing but waited until today to check it while
there was no wind at the dock. The sail seems to move quite easily if
the pole is in the right place.
Didn't want to hear that I have to take down the mast to fix it. This
raises another question. After I put the mast up with the mast hoist at
the beginning of the season, the plate on the deck that holds the mast
hoist pin lifted off the deck! All the stays were already attached when
this happened so I wasn't sure how dangerous it was for the mast raising
since the deck plate seems to be a pivot point and not a weight bearing
point. I called Stan about this and still need to email him for the
replacement parts. Do you think it would be too dangerous to lower the
mast if the plate isn't permanently fixed to the deck?
Carol
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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your
question about the plate pulling up.</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I do not have the mast hoisting
option. I raise the mast by waving 10 dollar bills around the ramp =
until
I recruit a couple of people.</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Do you mean the tabernacle, which =
is the U
shaped piece of steel that the mast sits on and is bolted through? =
If so
be very careful when you drop the mast. I would probably do it =
with at
least three other people – 3 to walk the mast down, and 2 at the =
base of
the mast, “Footing” it to keep it in place, in case the =
screws let
go. I’d also get it down quickly to limit the amount of time =
there
is strain on the screws. </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Once the mast is down, I would =
remove the
tabernacle and remount it with larger screws. DO NOT THROUGH BOLT =
IT TO
THE COACH ROOF TO THE CABIN. It should be able to tear out in the =
event
of a failure. If you were to through bolt it and the mast came =
down for
some reason, it would dear out large amounts of fiberglass and =
core.</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If the plate your talking about is =
some
piece of the moist hoist system, ignore all of the =
above.</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
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478 2896</span></font></p>
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rhodes22-list-admin@rhodes22.org =
[mailto:rhodes22-list-admin@rhodes22.org] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Michael Meltzer<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August =
08, 2002
2:15 PM<br>
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: =
[Rhodes22-list] IMF
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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>you need to get the plate =
back down,
make sure the line is one the foward part of the cleat and the mast =
carry is
holding the mast up. if the mast is to far down it puts alot of prussure =
on
that plate. The screew are in "shere", I would check with =
stan, but
drilling the plate for the next 2 screew sizes up and using 5200 =
should
fit it.</span></font></p>
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FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Bill,<br>
<br>
What you describe about the plastic inside the mast being off or broken =
makes
sense. I can tell the pole is not where it is supposed to be unless the =
block
is on the deck (which pushes the pole to where it needs to be). =
I'm never
insulted by questions. I was having major problem with the sail while =
sailing but
waited until today to check it while there was no wind at the dock. The =
sail
seems to move quite easily if the pole is in the right place.<br>
<br>
Didn't want to hear that I have to take down the mast to fix it. This =
raises
another question. After I put the mast up with the mast hoist at the =
beginning
of the season, the plate on the deck that holds the mast hoist pin =
lifted off
the deck! All the stays were already attached when this happened so I =
wasn't
sure how dangerous it was for the mast raising since the deck plate =
seems to be
a pivot point and not a weight bearing point. I called Stan about this =
and
still need to email him for the replacement parts. Do you think it would =
be too
dangerous to lower the mast if the plate isn't permanently fixed to the =
deck?<br>
<br>
Carol</span></font><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'> =
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