[Rhodes22-list] Re: [rhodes-list] New list

Michael Meltzer rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Tue, 23 Jul 2002 12:57:59 -0400


very well said, thank you

MJM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Effros" <bill@effros.com>
To: <rhodes-list@sailnet.net>
Cc: "Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: [rhodes-list] New list


> Paul,
>
> For a while some people will post on one list and some on the other while
> everyone migrates over to Michael's list.  You have to stay on both until
> you are not worried about missing something on the Sailnet list.  Until
then
> you will get a lot of double posting.  At some point we will all post to
> Michael's new list, and tell people asking questions on the Sailnet list
to
> subscribe to Michael's list to get the answers to their questions.
>
> Sailnet provided a valuable service for a long time, and I think we should
> support them for their effort.  However, as they sought a way to make
money,
> the service we originally subscribed to declined.  I agree with Michael
that
> the General Boats site is feeding the Sailnet site, not the other way
> around.
>
> The simplest way to tell which list the message came from is to look at
the
> "R" in the subject line containing "[rhodes-list]" in brackets.  If the
"r"
> is lower case it came from Sailnet.  If the "R" is uppercase it came from
> Michael's list.  Also, Michael's list is "[Rhodes22-list]" but I find the
> initial r to be the quickest tip-off regarding origin.  We should always
> copy Michael's list when responding to the Sailnet list.  At some point no
> one will miss anything if they drop the Sailnet subscription.  Each person
> will have to make their own decision on that one, however we should all
post
> every answer to Michael's list as soon as possible to speed the migration.
>
> The simplest way to tell where your message is going to is to look at the
> end of the To: line.  If it ends in ".net" it is going to Sailnet.  If it
> ends in ".org" it is going to Michael's list.
>
> Double check by looking for "22".  Michael's list is specific to the
> Rhodes22.  Sailnet is not.
>
> As mentioned by someone earlier, a few people will continue to monitor the
> Sailnet list, forwarding people and email to Michael's list.
>
> Bill Effros
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Grandholm" <PAUL@mi.chtechnology.com>
> To: <rhodes-list@sailnet.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:13 AM
> Subject: RE: [rhodes-list] New list
>
>
> > Michael,
> >
> >       Please forgive a dumb question from a relatively computer
> > challenged guy.  I'm already overloaded with emails so I'm not inclined
> > to stay on both lists, but I don't want to miss anything either.  What I
> > think you're advising us to do is to unsubscribe from the sailnet list
> > and subscribe to your new list.  Is that correct?  Is the correct timing
> > to do that right now?  Please let me know & I'll make the switch.  Also,
> > thanks for all the behind-the-scenes work you must have put into to
this.
> >
> > Paul
> > >
> > >I suspect that most of the new members come from the rhodes22.com link
> page,
> > > frankly is hard to spot sailnets lists their site is focused more on
the
> > > store. If you are a "old-timer" you know, but a new person would be
hard
> > > pressed.
> > >
> > >The link idea is a good one :-) I should have thought of it :-) the
> problem
> > > is mime is a pain-in-the-ass, the day job is eating cycles right now,
I
> get
> > > to it soon(weekend maybe). For now the max size is 128k after that it
> needs
> > > approval, should be ok to dailup at that size. I also need to "demine"
> and
> > > "dehtml" the stuff for the archive and dijest, got a script for that
but
> > > need to drop it in :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >BTW rhodes22.org could use a home page. :-)
> > >
> > >MJM
> > >
> > >PS. ps people I will not cross post for long and you are missing stuff
> > > already :-)
> > >http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >  From: Gardner, Douglas L. (LNG)
> > >  To: 'rhodes-list@sailnet.net'
> > >  Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:15 AM
> > >  Subject: RE: [rhodes-list] New list
> > >
> > >
> > >  I have worked closely with MJM in the past (setting up the photo
site),
> and
> > > have complete confidence that this will be a superior list.
> > >
> > >  I do have 2 concerns, though.
> > >  1) The sailnet list probably gets more traffic from 'casual'
browsers.
> How
> > > will new members find the new list?  One possibility... I'll probably
> stay
> > > subscribed to both. If a few others do the same, we can point people
in
> the
> > > right direction.
> > >  2) I like the ability to send attachments, but there should be a size
> > > limit.  Some of us are still on a dial-up connection.  60k or so
should
> be
> > > more than sufficient for a photo, and exceptions can be made on a
> case-by-ca
> > >se basis, based on expressed desire from list members.  A future
> enhancement
> > > would be for MJM to dump all attachments into a directory and
substitute
> > > with an URL pointing to it.  That way we could put just about anything
> up
> > > there and not bog down e-mail downloads.  (how do you like that
Michael?
> > > We're already writing requirements for release 2.0!  ;^)
> > >
> > >  Just a couple of thoughts.
> > >
> > >  --Doug
> > >
> > >  ps: OK, Michael.  Maybe its time we work on the photo site again?
> > >
> > >    -----Original Message-----
> > >    From: Bill Effros [mailto:bill@effros.com]
> > >    Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:11 AM
> > >    To: rhodes-list@sailnet.net
> > >    Subject: Re: [rhodes-list] New list
> > >
> > >
> > >    YES!
> > >
> > >    Michael's new system works better than any system we have used
> before.
> > >
> > >    It is very very fast.
> > >
> > >    We can send attachments.
> > >
> > >    No ads.  No spam.
> > >
> > >    We can direct people to Rummy's list, Tom's FAQ, and various
picture
> > > sites maintained by others.
> > >
> > >    We can write our own rules for what is appropriate for our list.
> > >
> > >    We can maintain our list so we don't have to rebuild it if the
> service
> > > provider loses or changes its service.
> > >
> > >    Michael has done an incredible job in a short period of time.
(This
> is
> > > standard procedure for MJM.)  Someone has helped him proofread his
work.
> > > Thanks to that person or persons.
> > >
> > >    Click on the link & sign up:
> > >
> > >    http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> > >
> > >    Make suggestions about how Michael can improve the way it works,
the
> > > wording, etc.
> > >
> > >    This is truly our list.
> > >
> > >    I'm sure most of us will stay on the Sailnet list as well, but once
> > > you've seen the speed of a list working the way it should, you will
find
> it
> > > difficult to go back to snail email.
> > >
> > >    Bill Effros
> > >      ----- Original Message -----
> > >      From: Michael Meltzer
> > >      To: rhodes-list@sailnet.net
> > >      Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 1:36 AM
> > >      Subject: [rhodes-list] New list
> > >
> > >
> > >      Some people might have noticed some Strange messages on the list
> here
> > > what is happening.
> > >
> > >      Well everyone, we know what happen last weekend, the sailnet list
> took
> > > a hit. Not liking the list being down I set up a new listserver under
> > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list .
> > >
> > >      1)It is a commercial grade server controlled by us
> > >      2)It is fast, message turnaround is under 1 minute, I make sure
it
> > > stays that way(sailnet seems to be 2 hours)
> > >      3)attachment are ok(we control it)
> > >      4)The footer lines are for the list benefit, not to sell ad space
> > >      5)when people sign up they get the rhodes22 charter
> > >      6)The archive system is useable, bet even that will be improved
> > >      7)The control screen are simple and understandable
> > >      8)We control it to make it fit your needs
> > >
> > >      Well at this point I built it, it is open to all comers, are we
> ready
> > > for it?
> > >
> > >      MJM
> >
> >
> >
> > ========================
> > Paul Grandholm
> > C&H Technology
> > GrandPower Components Div.
> > ========================
> >
> >
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