[Rhodes22-list] Ric - you have me mixed up with another Bill

[Rik Sandberg]

No Bill,

You just insinuated that the better share of us, not as individuals mind 
you, but just in general, are a bunch of dumb asses! Course I don't suppose 
anyone should take offense at that. After all, you did insinuate it very 
politely.

I was all set to offer up an apology for confusing the two of you, but in 
the light of this last post, I don't think I will. It's pretty obvious to 
me that while you might not have posted the original letter in question, 
you find no fault with and condone Bill E's actions. If you didn't, you 
might have taken a half a line or so to critique his actions as well.

So, If I offended you, you just cured any tendencies I had toward 
regretting it.
Rik


At 01:07 PM 10/31/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Your mixing me up with Bill Efros.
>
>I did not post the original Michael Moore piece.
>
>But in the post you just responded too, I did take up the debate.
>
>Primarily though, I responded to what I believe were unreasonable
>statements about the tone of the posts that have been going out.
>
>I believe my post did not attack anyone as individuals, and I tried to
>state my position and tried to put some shades of gray in an argument
>that seemed to me focused on black and white.
>
>The ugly tone has continued with your last post.
>
>You may be trying hard not to attack me personally, but from where I
>sit, " I'm sorry that I can't write real fancy like you do, but I'm
>pretty sure that most will understand what I mean, maybe even you", And
>"If you really want to show off your dissent to the best advantage in
>the future, perhaps you would be better off chaining yourself to a
>courthouse door somewhere and leaving us the hell out of it", indicates
>you've failed in that attempt.  & I do take offense.
>
>In Bob Herbert's Op-Ed piece in todays NY Times today, he reports that
>the FBI has stated that last year there were just under 16,000 people
>were murdered in this country, mostly by handguns.  No doubt many,
>perhaps a majority of the weapons used were unlicensed and obtained
>illegally.  But that doesn't alter the fact that people can buy guns at
>gun shows without background checks being performed.
>
>This is possible because of a loophole in the Brady Gun Law.  The Brady
>gun law required background checks on purchasers that buy their weapons
>in stores.  The NRA, by the way, opposed passage of the Brady law.  It
>now opposes closing the gun show loop hole.  Well if I were a criminal
>or sociopath, I know I'd do my gun shopping.  But some on this list say
>don't pass new laws just enforce the ones that are already on the books.
>
>
>Disagreement on opinions is all well and good.  But I always thought
>this list was in part intended to promote a sense of community and
>mutual respect.  The bulk of the posts in the last few days, have done
>little to help that.
>
>Bill Berner
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>
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rik Sandberg
>Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:27 AM
>To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill
>
>
>Bill,
>
>  Jeez Bill, it ain't rocket science. You post the most inflammatory
>piece of
>tripe you can find on the internet to the list, then wonder why a couple
>of
>people assume that this is how you really feel and call you an idiot???
>I
>know you're not stupid, there had to be no doubt in your mind that this
>would happen before you did it, so tell me Bill, what were you hoping to
>accomplish????
>
>I have to wonder how it is that you expected a bunch of "un-nuanced"
>thinkers like us to find a "middle ground" with you, since you were
>apparently unwilling to enter into the very debate you started.
>
>I'm sorry that I can't write real fancy like you do, but I'm pretty sure
>that most will understand what I mean, maybe even you.
>
>I'm trying very hard here Bill, not to attack you personally, but you
>know,
>after the furor you've caused, it just ain't easy.
>
>If you really want to show off your dissent to the best advantage in the
>future, perhaps you would be better off chaining yourself to a
>courthouse
>door somewhere and leaving us the hell out of it.
>
>
>Rik
>
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