[Rhodes22-list] Toad's WHOLE story as if anybody cares
Toad the Wet Sprocket
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Tue, 03 Sep 2002 02:01:47 -0400
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> If judging by the subject line....this doesn't interest you ...then by all means hit the delete button now. But this is just to set the entire record straight. All of this talk about the alleged "free advice" and "free service" was originally one 30 second phone call and one e-mail and a couple of follow up e-mails for clarification. The first follows:</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0.5in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Stan, <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">We spoke briefly on the telephone. You said to e-mail you to ask questions and/or to order parts. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Do you have or sell a parts catalog? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">I have a 1974 22 with no forward windows or deck hatches. Assuming I have the skill necessary to install them, will they fit and will they require any beefing up of the foredeck or cabin roof? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Can I possibly see a picture of the traveler system being used on current production boats? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Can I get prices on the following parts: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">1. Rudder head (my rudder blade is ok but everything above it needs replacement) <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">2. Side port windows <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">3. Front windows <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">4. Tiller handle <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">5. Mast raising crane/equipment <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">ThankYou <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Todd <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> Now what part of that constitutes "free advice and service?" I didn't think I would have to wait so long to ever get a response, which needed two more e-mails for elaboration. I didn't ask Stan Sptizer any "how do I" or "how is this supposed to be" questions. I asked them here on the list. I was trying to see about buying some parts.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> I asked why was everything so secret (talking about why we couldn't get any literature posted on line, especially after someone already had and GB supposedly didn't have any) So when a few people jumped on me, they did not really know what they were talking about. I said I got "little help from the mfg of a boat I own" and "<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Why is everything such a big secret and no one can talk about it? </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">But this is what was said to me about it, in addition to a private e-mail saying "buy a new R22 if you want documents and shut the hell up." Of course I got a little tweaked.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">"when you get answers you don't like, you pout. GET OVER IT. If you want help, play nice or take your boat and go elsewhere. "<BR></SPAN></P></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=3></FONT></SPAN>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">........"Over the years the list members have had to deal with all kinds of people and personalities. I would have to say that for the most part, those with bad attitudes leave in short order. It's nothing personal, we just don't have to put up with it and don't. This list is here because we have more control over what happens on the list. Not just one computer cop, but the whole list."......<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">......."Well todd free is not alway cheap :-)"....... </SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Stan wrote</SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">"Toad says that, "The only reason I have this boat is because it was a freebie,,," and that has conditioned him to expect not only free service but instant free service, even if it should cause poorer service to those who have paid for their boats." </SPAN></P>
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<P><EM>and</EM></P>
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<P>"To this I must add that those who have bought a Rhodes from someone else and given their money to that other party, in all innocence, find it hard to understand our reluctance to stop what we are doing to survive and respond to their call saying, 'you will be happy to hear that I have just bought a Rhodes from so and so and now I need you to give me your time to answer my questions'". </P>
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<P>So as Paul Harvey would say "Now you know the rest of the story." </P>
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<P> But...................I didn't ask any questions......so I shouldn't have to be the one apologizing for anything, but the other way around....<BR></P>
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<P>the defense rests....no further questions</P>
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<DIV>don't bother responding to <A href="mailto:sprocket80@hotmail.com">sprocket80@hotmail.com</A></DIV>
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