[Rhodes22-list] UPS arrived yesterday

Mark Kaynor mark at kaynor.org
Fri Apr 18 13:24:27 EDT 2003


Oops - here are the pics. Sorry.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] UPS arrived yesterday


> Jay,
>
> We've currently just got a block (see the attached pictures) screwed into
> the deck with a stainless eye strap. It was installed for when the halyard
> is run through a block on a bail atthemasthead for the asymmetric. It's a
> bit too far forward for the UPS halyard, since we're using the second set
of
> masthead blocks. I need to add another block in the correct position, but
> hadn't decided what or how to to it yet.
>
> I've considered installing a mast plate but thought that might be
overkill.
> I really don't know how much the block gets loaded. The literature for the
> furler that comes with the UPS says you should only put enough tension on
> the halyard to keep the luff from deforming a lot - too much tension will
> result in early failure of the furling system. The more I think about it,
> the more I'm inclined to look for a mast plate. I'd also like to hear from
> others with more experience in this.
>
> Mark
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Friedland" <a.jayf at verizon.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] UPS arrived yesterday
>
>
> > Mark,
> > Thanks for your response. I was planning to launch today, but winds are
> > 15-20 and 35, so consider me a fair weather sailor. Tomorrow is
> > forecasted into the high 50's with lighter winds.
> >
> > I had a concern and was wondering why I never heard it discussed on the
> > list. How much pull is on the halyard with a spin under sail? From what
> > I've seen of installations, it means running the halyard from the mast
> > through a standard deck block to the cockpit for cleating. This seems
> > to be the weakest link.
> >
> >   The deck block, typically a small Ronstan spring-loaded type, doesn't
> > seem beefy enough, or well-anchored or well-positioned enough, to take
> > any heavy pull from the halyard. Is this what you're using or similar?
> > Is a padeye mounted at the base of the mast to provide a direct pull
> > down more effective? Any way of through-bolting a block to the cabin
> > top? Is any of this necesary? Just very curious on what you feel is
> > needed.
> >
> > Thnaks,
> > Jay
> >
> > On Saturday, April 12, 2003, at 09:42 AM, Mark Kaynor wrote:
> >
> > > Jay,
> > >
> > > Raven already had a padeye installed in the deck just aft of the
> > > furler when
> > > we bought her. It's got 4 bolts and a backing plate and sounds like
the
> > > Schaeffer you describe - I'll see if I can find any identifier on it
> > > today
> > > and will let you know. I mounted a halyard restrainer on the mast
> > > about a
> > > foot down from the masthead. We've got blocks w/ snap shackles that we
> > > attach to the aft cleats for the asymmetric sheets. I won't know if
> > > we'll
> > > use those or the standard jib sheet setup until we mess around w/ it a
> > > bit
> > > and see what works best.
> > >
> > > Gary (Raven's PO) had bolted a bail w/ a small block to the front of
> > > the
> > > masthead for the asymmetric halyard. Because the UPS is rigged inside
> > > the
> > > headstay, rather than outside like the asymmetric, we routed the
> > > halyard
> > > through the sstarboard set of masthead blocks. Our topping lift runs
> > > through
> > > the port set.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jay Friedland" <a.jayf at verizon.net>
> > > To: <kroposki at innova.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 8:45 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] UPS arrived yesterday
> > >
> > >
> > >> Mark,
> > >> Did you use same padeye/halyard set-up you had for your previous
> > >> cruising spinnaker? Once the mast is up, it's done-launch is next
> > >> Friday.  Any last minute suggestions on hardware? I'm using the
> > >> Schaeffer padeye (4 screws/backing plate) Roger suggested, halyard
> > >> restrainer 6" down from sheaves, and fixed topping lift with line to
> > >> boom-mounted cleat, standard Jib cars. Thanks for any input.
> > >> Jay
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Saturday, April 12, 2003, at 07:43 AM, Kroposki wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Mark,
> > >>> The weather is supposed to be perfect..... _) _) _)
> > >>>                   Ed K
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Mark Kaynor [mailto:mark at kaynor.org]
> > >>> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 5:27 AM
> > >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] UPS arrived yesterday
> > >>>
> > >>> Our new UPS sail arrived yesterday. Woohoo!! We'll be setting it up
> > >>> and
> > >>> trying it out later today, weather permitting. I'll bring the camera
> > >>> and
> > >>> see if I can get someone to take a few pics to post. We unfolded it
> > >>> in
> > >>> the living room last night to check it out - it's a big sail. It's
> > >>> also
> > >>> very pretty. And it smells new <g>. We're excited.
> > >>>
> > >>> Mark Kaynor
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
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