[Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer

David Walker david.walker5 at comcast.net
Thu Aug 14 09:07:17 EDT 2003


Not sure.  It came from GB with the recycled boat and is old.  Triad put a
new axle and brakes on it in 98, but said they didn't make it.  It didn't
even have a MFg label and VIN, I had to get one assigned by the DMV.

Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer


> Dave,
>
> What kind of trailer do you have?  What year?
>
> Thanks
>
> PT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Walker" <david.walker5 at comcast.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
>
>
> > I've stayed out of this discussion because I do not trailer very often
> > anymore, but I have one comment.  After 2 years of launching and
> retrieving
> > and the last two of having the boat loaded on the trailer with a travel
> > lift, I'm convinced that the position of the hull on the trailer is
mainly
> > dictated by the bunks.  No matter what I did with the bowstop or winch
> cable
> > when loading, the hull settled in the exact same place when it came out
of
> > the water.  In fact, if it was forward and the cable was tight, trying
to
> > keep it there, the cable would break when the hull settled.  Even when
> > loaded by a crane, it ended up in the same place.  The crane operators
> said
> > that was where it "fit".
> >
> > I've never had enough tongue weight to trailer above 50 mph without
> > fishtailing.  And thats without the motor on the stern.
> >
> > Dave Walker
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ware, Joseph W." <joseph_ware at merck.com>
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:03 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> >
> >
> > > Moving the bow support forward will get it out of the way while
loading
> > and
> > > un-loading.  Bow eye catches the stop when fully retracted.  The
actual
> > boat
> > > will only move forward 6-8 inches.  I'll need to experiment with
tongue
> > > weight to make that a fixed dimension.  Once loaded, the stop will be
> > moved
> > > back into position lightly touching the bow itself.
> > >
> > > Do I remember Stan telling us once that the bow stop should not touch
> the
> > > bow when trailering?  If so, what is it's purpose?
> > >
> > > Joe
> > > S/V Whisper
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Todd Tavares [mailto:sprocket80 at mail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:37 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > >     That sounds like the easy fix at first glance. But I remember
> someone
> > > writing (maybe it was Stan?) that the bunk uprights are positioned at
> > > specific points under the hull.?
> > >
> > > Todd
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ware, Joseph W." <joseph_ware at merck.com>
> > > Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:16:38 -0400
> > > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> > >
> > > > Steve, I had asked the same question a while ago.  Someone at the
time
> > had
> > > > suggested cutting the bow stop off, it's welded on, and moving it
> > forward
> > > a
> > > > foot.  They had done this and it worked.  I'm having it done as we
> > speak.
> > > > I'll let you know how it works out.  Cost about $30.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > > S/V Whisper
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Steve Alm [mailto:salm at mn.rr.com]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:58 AM
> > > > To: Rhodes
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi.  Mary Ann and I just got back from a four day trip with
Fandango.
> > We
> > > > went up north to Leech Lake in north central MN.  The sailing and
> living
> > > > aboard were great (I'd love to tell you more about it sometime) but
> > after
> > > > putting the boat in and out several times in several locations with
> > > varying
> > > > degrees of steepness at the ramps, I've concluded that something is
> > > > definitely wrong here.
> > > >
> > > > No matter what, I just can't get the boat far enough forward on the
> > > trailer.
> > > > The result is not enough tongue weight.  I had to take the motor off
> and
> > > > lash it on the trailer tongue, put the rudder up in the V berth,
along
> > > with
> > > > anything else that has any weight to it.  I used my bathroom scale
to
> > try
> > > to
> > > > find out how heavy the tongue really is:  the scale only goes up to
> 300
> > > lbs.
> > > > and I pegged the thing before the tongue even budged off the
hitch--so
> > > I'll
> > > > bet I have at least 400 lbs, maybe more.  Still, the trailer
> fishtailed
> > at
> > > > anything over 55 mph and also lurched and tugged most of the way.  I
> use
> > a
> > > > 3/4 ton full-size cargo van with a V-8--more than enough.
> > > >
> > > > At one of the ramps that had a very gradual slope, I backed in so
far
> > that
> > > > my tailpipe was almost under.  Using the tongue extension, the
forward
> > > ends
> > > > of the bunks were just at water level and I drove the boat hard at
the
> > > > trailer, trying to get up on the damn things, but still no luck.
> > > >
> > > > And at the steep ramps it's even worse.  As we've discussed before,
> you
> > > pull
> > > > the boat all the way up to the bow stop, but when you pull the
trailer
> > out
> > > > of the water, the bow rocks back away from the bow stop, and leaves
> the
> > > boat
> > > > too far back--actually NEGATIVE TONGUE WEIGHT!
> > > >
> > > > I really don't want to move the motor, rudder, etc. not to mention
all
> > the
> > > > landing gymnastics every time I trailer.  Is it just me or is it a
> > design
> > > > flaw.  The trailer axle should be about 6-8 inches back or
something.
> > Can
> > > > anyone offer some insight, please?  Pretty please?
> > > >
> > > > Slim
> > > >
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