[Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer

Rob Lowe rlowe at vt.edu
Thu Aug 14 09:39:39 EDT 2003 

Speaking of trailers, does anyone strap their boat to the trailer when
towing?  The previous owner told me to do it to keep the boat from bouncing
around too much, but I haven't heard anyone else mention it. - Rob

Rob Lowe
S/V Getaway


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Walker" <david.walker5 at comcast.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer


> Not sure.  It came from GB with the recycled boat and is old.  Triad put a
> new axle and brakes on it in 98, but said they didn't make it.  It didn't
> even have a MFg label and VIN, I had to get one assigned by the DMV.
>
> Dave
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
>
>
> > Dave,
> >
> > What kind of trailer do you have?  What year?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > PT
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Walker" <david.walker5 at comcast.net>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> >
> >
> > > I've stayed out of this discussion because I do not trailer very often
> > > anymore, but I have one comment.  After 2 years of launching and
> > retrieving
> > > and the last two of having the boat loaded on the trailer with a
travel
> > > lift, I'm convinced that the position of the hull on the trailer is
> mainly
> > > dictated by the bunks.  No matter what I did with the bowstop or winch
> > cable
> > > when loading, the hull settled in the exact same place when it came
out
> of
> > > the water.  In fact, if it was forward and the cable was tight, trying
> to
> > > keep it there, the cable would break when the hull settled.  Even when
> > > loaded by a crane, it ended up in the same place.  The crane operators
> > said
> > > that was where it "fit".
> > >
> > > I've never had enough tongue weight to trailer above 50 mph without
> > > fishtailing.  And thats without the motor on the stern.
> > >
> > > Dave Walker
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ware, Joseph W." <joseph_ware at merck.com>
> > > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:03 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> > >
> > >
> > > > Moving the bow support forward will get it out of the way while
> loading
> > > and
> > > > un-loading.  Bow eye catches the stop when fully retracted.  The
> actual
> > > boat
> > > > will only move forward 6-8 inches.  I'll need to experiment with
> tongue
> > > > weight to make that a fixed dimension.  Once loaded, the stop will
be
> > > moved
> > > > back into position lightly touching the bow itself.
> > > >
> > > > Do I remember Stan telling us once that the bow stop should not
touch
> > the
> > > > bow when trailering?  If so, what is it's purpose?
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > > S/V Whisper
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Todd Tavares [mailto:sprocket80 at mail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:37 PM
> > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joe,
> > > >
> > > >     That sounds like the easy fix at first glance. But I remember
> > someone
> > > > writing (maybe it was Stan?) that the bunk uprights are positioned
at
> > > > specific points under the hull.?
> > > >
> > > > Todd
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ware, Joseph W." <joseph_ware at merck.com>
> > > > Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:16:38 -0400
> > > > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> > > >
> > > > > Steve, I had asked the same question a while ago.  Someone at the
> time
> > > had
> > > > > suggested cutting the bow stop off, it's welded on, and moving it
> > > forward
> > > > a
> > > > > foot.  They had done this and it worked.  I'm having it done as we
> > > speak.
> > > > > I'll let you know how it works out.  Cost about $30.
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe
> > > > > S/V Whisper
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Steve Alm [mailto:salm at mn.rr.com]
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:58 AM
> > > > > To: Rhodes
> > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Hate My Trailer
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi.  Mary Ann and I just got back from a four day trip with
> Fandango.
> > > We
> > > > > went up north to Leech Lake in north central MN.  The sailing and
> > living
> > > > > aboard were great (I'd love to tell you more about it sometime)
but
> > > after
> > > > > putting the boat in and out several times in several locations
with
> > > > varying
> > > > > degrees of steepness at the ramps, I've concluded that something
is
> > > > > definitely wrong here.
> > > > >
> > > > > No matter what, I just can't get the boat far enough forward on
the
> > > > trailer.
> > > > > The result is not enough tongue weight.  I had to take the motor
off
> > and
> > > > > lash it on the trailer tongue, put the rudder up in the V berth,
> along
> > > > with
> > > > > anything else that has any weight to it.  I used my bathroom scale
> to
> > > try
> > > > to
> > > > > find out how heavy the tongue really is:  the scale only goes up
to
> > 300
> > > > lbs.
> > > > > and I pegged the thing before the tongue even budged off the
> hitch--so
> > > > I'll
> > > > > bet I have at least 400 lbs, maybe more.  Still, the trailer
> > fishtailed
> > > at
> > > > > anything over 55 mph and also lurched and tugged most of the way.
I
> > use
> > > a
> > > > > 3/4 ton full-size cargo van with a V-8--more than enough.
> > > > >
> > > > > At one of the ramps that had a very gradual slope, I backed in so
> far
> > > that
> > > > > my tailpipe was almost under.  Using the tongue extension, the
> forward
> > > > ends
> > > > > of the bunks were just at water level and I drove the boat hard at
> the
> > > > > trailer, trying to get up on the damn things, but still no luck.
> > > > >
> > > > > And at the steep ramps it's even worse.  As we've discussed
before,
> > you
> > > > pull
> > > > > the boat all the way up to the bow stop, but when you pull the
> trailer
> > > out
> > > > > of the water, the bow rocks back away from the bow stop, and
leaves
> > the
> > > > boat
> > > > > too far back--actually NEGATIVE TONGUE WEIGHT!
> > > > >
> > > > > I really don't want to move the motor, rudder, etc. not to mention
> all
> > > the
> > > > > landing gymnastics every time I trailer.  Is it just me or is it a
> > > design
> > > > > flaw.  The trailer axle should be about 6-8 inches back or
> something.
> > > Can
> > > > > anyone offer some insight, please?  Pretty please?
> > > > >
> > > > > Slim
> > > > >
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