[Rhodes22-list] Michael's Diesel #1 and #2

Steve rhodes2282 at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 9 07:29:19 EST 2003


Michael
Don't worry about the fuel.  The truck should have
some type of plug that your can plug into AC.  Cold
weather just plug it in and it will start easier.  If
you forget; get you a can of Either.  Spray a shot
into the air intake. Crank it and it will start.  If
it don't; spray another shot.  
Steve


> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:28 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1
> and #2
> 
> thanks, I will watch it and take it easly on the
> centen booster, BTW
> mine might be a early one 3/2003(did not know it
> until I picked
> it up), is their anything I should watch out for or
> bitch to the dealer
> about?(reflash the chip)
> 
> MJM
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan Bodnar" <dsbodnar at earthlink.net>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:23 PM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1
> and #2
> 
> 
> > Michael,
> > I've had several of the old 7.3L Diesels in E350
> Vans.  The last one I
> owned
> > was in 2001 and it had glow plugs and a fuel
> heater and I'm fairly
> certain
> > that the new 6.0L still has the fuel heater.  I'm
> in the Metro Detroit
> area
> > and we rarely have nights much colder than -10
> degrees.  I learned
> that I
> > did not need to plug it in unless it was going to
> be colder than 10
> below
> > 'cause the diesel started fine. I did plug it in
> when I knew it would
> be
> > colder than 10 below at night just to be safe.
> But, having forgotten
> to do
> > it a few times, taught me that they would start
> using just the
> recommended
> > start procedure.
> >
> > Anyway, fresh winter grade fuel, or some Premium
> diesel (which I think
> is
> > really #1) and your diesel should do fine. Also
> make sure that the
> water
> > separator really does get drained with every oil
> change. I never had a
> > diesel not start.  They were a little smoky
> sometimes when it was zero
> or
> > colder, but they always started.  I only used a
> diesel fuel
> conditioner on
> > one trip into Michigan's Upper Peninsula where I
> knew I was going to
> have
> > 20+ below-zero weather.  I don't remember the gel
> point of diesel
> either,
> > but I'm pretty sure it is lower than 15 below...
> now that I think
> about it,
> > if the numbers aren't in the diesel supplement to
> your owner's manual,
> then
> > the gel point is printed on the back of some of
> the bottles of fuel
> > conditioner.  Oh, and with the new 6.0L
> electronically controlled
> diesel, if
> > you decide to use a fuel conditioner, "more is NOT
> better".  Raising
> the
> > flash point of the fuel too far will play havoc
> with proper
> combustion.
> > We had some initial growing pains with the new
> 6.0L Diesel, but the
> reports
> > I'm seeing lately say that the late 2003 and 2004
> units are top
> drawer.
> >
> > Dan Bodnar
> > SV QOL
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----From:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of Michael
> Meltzer
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:46 PM
> > To: sanderico at earthlink.net; The Rhodes 22 mail
> list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel
> #1 and #2
> >
> > That nice to know, under a little knowage is
> dangerous I heard that
> use
> > Kerosene can be use up to 20% in the winter, also
> almost
> > anything can go into a disel engine, like
> bio-disel, made from used
> frechfry
> > oil :-)
> >
> > MJM
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico at earthlink.net>
> > To: <kroposki at innova.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail
> list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel
> #1 and #2
> >
> >
> > > Ed,
> > >
> > > #1 fuel oil and kerosene are not the same thing.
> Kerosene is more
> > "refined"
> > > than #1 oil. #3 fuel oil is an even heavier oil
> than #2. I think
> they use
> > it
> > > for firing funaces (like asphalt plants) and
> things, industrial
> stuff more
> > > down south than up around here. It's heavy
> enough that you have to
> warm it
> > up
> > > before it will light easily. Not an expert on
> this though :-)
> > >
> > > I did run across a guy from down south a few
> years ago that claimed
> to be
> > > using #3 oil in the truck he was driving. It was
> about -20 F that
> night
> > and I
> > > stopped to help him as his truck was froze up
> (fuel gelled) on the
> side of
> > > I-94. Poor bastard was out in that shit in
> nothing but a light
> jacket and
> > a
> > > t-shirt. He was, to say the least, happy to see
> me. I would imagine
> that
> > they
> > > had to drain whatever fuel was in that truck and
> start over with all
> new,
> > > lighter fuel before that truck would ever go
> anywhere again before
> spring.
> > I
> > > think he learned that some of the things you can
> get away with down
> south,
> > > won't get you very far up here when it gets
> cold. Up here, we've got
> real
> > > honest to God.......COLD!!!!!
> > >
> > > Rik
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/08/2003 08:16 pm, you wrote:
> > > > KEROSENE!   What is # 3 used for? and yes
> there is a #3.  Hey guys
> help
> > > > Rummy.
> > > >
> > > >                                               
>             Ed K
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've always just known it as #1.
> > > >
> > > >
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