[Rhodes22-list] Michael's Diesel #1 and #2

Michael Meltzer mjm at michaelmeltzer.com
Wed Dec 10 08:43:00 EST 2003


it has a plug but I park it at the train station, -5-0 is the lowest range around me. I leave a can in back.

MJM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
To: <kroposki at innova.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Michael's Diesel #1 and #2


> Michael
> Don't worry about the fuel.  The truck should have
> some type of plug that your can plug into AC.  Cold
> weather just plug it in and it will start easier.  If
> you forget; get you a can of Either.  Spray a shot
> into the air intake. Crank it and it will start.  If
> it don't; spray another shot.  
> Steve
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:28 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1
> > and #2
> > 
> > thanks, I will watch it and take it easly on the
> > centen booster, BTW
> > mine might be a early one 3/2003(did not know it
> > until I picked
> > it up), is their anything I should watch out for or
> > bitch to the dealer
> > about?(reflash the chip)
> > 
> > MJM
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Dan Bodnar" <dsbodnar at earthlink.net>
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:23 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1
> > and #2
> > 
> > 
> > > Michael,
> > > I've had several of the old 7.3L Diesels in E350
> > Vans.  The last one I
> > owned
> > > was in 2001 and it had glow plugs and a fuel
> > heater and I'm fairly
> > certain
> > > that the new 6.0L still has the fuel heater.  I'm
> > in the Metro Detroit
> > area
> > > and we rarely have nights much colder than -10
> > degrees.  I learned
> > that I
> > > did not need to plug it in unless it was going to
> > be colder than 10
> > below
> > > 'cause the diesel started fine. I did plug it in
> > when I knew it would
> > be
> > > colder than 10 below at night just to be safe.
> > But, having forgotten
> > to do
> > > it a few times, taught me that they would start
> > using just the
> > recommended
> > > start procedure.
> > >
> > > Anyway, fresh winter grade fuel, or some Premium
> > diesel (which I think
> > is
> > > really #1) and your diesel should do fine. Also
> > make sure that the
> > water
> > > separator really does get drained with every oil
> > change. I never had a
> > > diesel not start.  They were a little smoky
> > sometimes when it was zero
> > or
> > > colder, but they always started.  I only used a
> > diesel fuel
> > conditioner on
> > > one trip into Michigan's Upper Peninsula where I
> > knew I was going to
> > have
> > > 20+ below-zero weather.  I don't remember the gel
> > point of diesel
> > either,
> > > but I'm pretty sure it is lower than 15 below...
> > now that I think
> > about it,
> > > if the numbers aren't in the diesel supplement to
> > your owner's manual,
> > then
> > > the gel point is printed on the back of some of
> > the bottles of fuel
> > > conditioner.  Oh, and with the new 6.0L
> > electronically controlled
> > diesel, if
> > > you decide to use a fuel conditioner, "more is NOT
> > better".  Raising
> > the
> > > flash point of the fuel too far will play havoc
> > with proper
> > combustion.
> > > We had some initial growing pains with the new
> > 6.0L Diesel, but the
> > reports
> > > I'm seeing lately say that the late 2003 and 2004
> > units are top
> > drawer.
> > >
> > > Dan Bodnar
> > > SV QOL
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----From:
> > rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > Behalf Of Michael
> > Meltzer
> > > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:46 PM
> > > To: sanderico at earthlink.net; The Rhodes 22 mail
> > list
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel
> > #1 and #2
> > >
> > > That nice to know, under a little knowage is
> > dangerous I heard that
> > use
> > > Kerosene can be use up to 20% in the winter, also
> > almost
> > > anything can go into a disel engine, like
> > bio-disel, made from used
> > frechfry
> > > oil :-)
> > >
> > > MJM
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico at earthlink.net>
> > > To: <kroposki at innova.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail
> > list"
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:54 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel
> > #1 and #2
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ed,
> > > >
> > > > #1 fuel oil and kerosene are not the same thing.
> > Kerosene is more
> > > "refined"
> > > > than #1 oil. #3 fuel oil is an even heavier oil
> > than #2. I think
> > they use
> > > it
> > > > for firing funaces (like asphalt plants) and
> > things, industrial
> > stuff more
> > > > down south than up around here. It's heavy
> > enough that you have to
> > warm it
> > > up
> > > > before it will light easily. Not an expert on
> > this though :-)
> > > >
> > > > I did run across a guy from down south a few
> > years ago that claimed
> > to be
> > > > using #3 oil in the truck he was driving. It was
> > about -20 F that
> > night
> > > and I
> > > > stopped to help him as his truck was froze up
> > (fuel gelled) on the
> > side of
> > > > I-94. Poor bastard was out in that shit in
> > nothing but a light
> > jacket and
> > > a
> > > > t-shirt. He was, to say the least, happy to see
> > me. I would imagine
> > that
> > > they
> > > > had to drain whatever fuel was in that truck and
> > start over with all
> > new,
> > > > lighter fuel before that truck would ever go
> > anywhere again before
> > spring.
> > > I
> > > > think he learned that some of the things you can
> > get away with down
> > south,
> > > > won't get you very far up here when it gets
> > cold. Up here, we've got
> > real
> > > > honest to God.......COLD!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > Rik
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 12/08/2003 08:16 pm, you wrote:
> > > > > KEROSENE!   What is # 3 used for? and yes
> > there is a #3.  Hey guys
> > help
> > > > > Rummy.
> > > > >
> > > > >                                               
> >             Ed K
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject: Re: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I've always just known it as #1.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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