[Rhodes22-list] UPS sail

[Mark Kaynor]

Jay,

Yep - Raven's ours. You're probably referring to the pics a friend took for
us last year at http://www.kaynor.org/raven. That sail came with Raven when
we bought her from Gary and Jennifer Sanford. Gary picked it up fairly cheap
somewhere along the line, and it's not really sized for the Rhodes. I think
it's actually smaller than the 175%, but I haven't measured it to confirm.
Over the course of last season we found that we got better performance with
the 175% than we did with the asymmetric, even in lighter winds.

The one time we used it successfully in a race was to pass a competitor who
was upwind of us - every time we caught up to him w/ the 175%, he'd steal
our wind and pull back ahead. We put up the spinnaker and were able to catch
some cleaner air higher up and get past him. Unfortunately, we blew our lead
at the turn due to our inexperience w/ the asymmetric.

We decided to buy the UPS for several reasons. It's bigger than our current
asymmetric and sized for the Rhodes, and we're hoping it's easier to use -
we're pretty lazy <g>. We're hoping we can partially lower the halyard and
pull the furled UPS back to the mast w/o having to unfasten anything, and
still be able to tack the headsail over the lowered UPS. This should let us
set and douse it pretty quickly in the varying wind conditions of our local
lake.

We're also going to try a 135% genoa in windier conditions because we're not
really happy with the shape/performance of the partially furled 175%. We've
got  the CDI flexible furler so we can do a headsail change fairly easily at
the dock, but it's not so much fun underway. We're hoping the combination of
the 135% and the UPS will give us better on-the-wind performance in windier
conditions and downwind performance that we'd otherwise miss from not having
the175%. We won't really know what sail combinations are going to work best
for given conditions until we get a chance to play around with them a bit.

Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Friedland" <a.jayf@verizon.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] UPS sail


> Mark,
> Isn't Raven your boat? I remember Raven flying an asymetrical spinnaker
> that looked awfully close to this. If that's yours, what do you see as
> the major benefit/use of this over that sail? In any case I hope to be
> 2nd or 3rd to order.
>
> Tom,
> As I'm planning on using this for single-handing downwind, wind
> conditions above my (155%) gennie are important. Originally Paul talked
> about a 1.5 cloth, then changed to .9, so I was concerned with the
> lighter material. Paul's comments are reassuring.
> I'm still wondering how the UPS lays up against the gennie as it tacks.
> Also, with the halyard led back to the cockpit, what line size and
> block arrangement are you using. Your photos only covered the bow
> mounting of the furling line.
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
>
> On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 09:27 AM, Mark Kaynor wrote:
>
> > Tom,
> >
> > Thanks for the info. I hadn't thought too much about raising /
> > lowering the
> > sail yet, and I'll be sure to keep the potential for catching on the
> > shrouds
> > in mind. I'm really looking forward to playing around with it.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <SVTRITON@aol.com>
> > To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] UPS sail
> >
> >
> >> hi mark
> >> the first email to marylou on our ups site has the windspeed numbers
> >> i was
> >> told would be the maxs for the boat..note at this time no they had
> >> never
> > made
> >> one for an R 22....10 kts on a close reach is reasonable and ive done
> >> it...but i am more comfortable with my 150 above that..ive done 14 on
> >> a
> >> beam/broad reach and had the strange sensation of feeling like the
> >> boat
> > was
> >> being lifted out of the water..i had the board fully down and was
> >> doing
> > 7.2
> >> on the gps..dont know what the current was..
> >> since im new to the boat i havent pushed too hard and am really
> >> anxious to
> >> hear feedback from more experienced rhodies....one unrelated point..
> >> if
> > you
> >> are underway and want to drop the sail after furling..put the wind in
> >> your
> >> face and the sail will fall on the deck...the opposite is true if you
> >> are
> >> raising the sail underway...put the wind at your back to raise it,
> >> then
> > come
> >> into the wind to unfurl it...i found last season that if i raised it
> >> with
> > the
> >> wind in my face it would sometimes get caught where the lower shrouds
> >> meet
> >> the mast..in fact i got a small tear in the sail once because of
> > that..easy
> >> to fix but still unnecessary
> >> best
> >> tom
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