[Rhodes22-list] Re: Doyle UPS sails

Mark Kaynor mark@kaynor.org
Fri, 3 Jan 2003 08:22:42 -0500


Thanks to Michael tweaking the directory permissions a bit, I was able to
add a link to Tom's UPS Sail page on the rhodes22.org site. To get to it, go
to http://www.rhodes22.org then select "Photos of Rhodes Boats", then "Tech"
and scroll to the bottom of the page.

Mark Kaynor


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Friedland" <a.jayf@verizon.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: Atlantic City - Doyle UPS sails was Re: [ham]
[Rhodes22-list]New Year


> Tom-
> Thanks for qualifying your response. Actually I had direct dealings
> with Dana at Doyle Offshore 5 years ago when I had them make a 150, and
> the first they cut for the CDI furler. As a variation of the GBI specs,
> it was within range of what they were used to. They made a few
> suggestions for a full, not fractional size, did an admirable job and
> were very responsive.
>
> I can't speak for Stan, but he tends to respond to the "cosmic
> consciousness" of the group, rather than the single pioneer. In
> addition to what he said he had to take care of on your boat, he
> expressed strong interest in detailing the UPS requirements. He asked
> me last week to set up a schedule with you, then the holidays hit. I
> will be tied up with the AC and Chicago shows, as well as a visit to
> Edenton, which eliminates all weekends in Jan. If a weekday is
> convenient, let me know, otherwise, it's early Feb.
>
> In order to have sails for this season, I'm sure our group would have
> to place orders this or next month. On the variations per boat, I
> wonder if Stan or Dwyer would know how to handle this. Outer sheet
> tracks should be consistent from end of cabin/drain in the toerail,
> etc. I have both masthead sheaves used (topping lift for boom and
> second for whisker pole).
>
> Tom, all your concerns and the details you've documented are key to
> issues that must be settled, so thanks for taking the time and posting
> them all. I hope we can return the efforts.
> Jay
>
> On Thursday, January 2, 2003, at 03:59 PM, SVTRITON@aol.com wrote:
>
> > hi jay
> > let me comment and qualify my comments on doyle offshore...first, when
> > i told
> > stan i wanted the sail he told me to take care of it myself...i have
> > no idea
> > if that was stans decision not to get involved in it or doyle offshores
> > decision not to get involved in it...
> > second, the quality problem i have with doyle offshore is on a non
> > standard
> > sail..im sure many of you are happy with the standard 175...but i
> > wanted a
> > biradial 150 with a nonstandard fabric...unfortunately, i did not get
> > enough
> > sailing time in this season to really get specific about whats wrong
> > with the
> > way she flys, but its not right..also the stitching is not straight
> > which
> > bugs me everytime i look at it...it runs along the foot...
> > lastly keep in mind that the sails design is based on certain
> > measurements
> > which may differ by boat...for example..if you use the internal sheeve
> > in the
> > mast with a halyard restrainer you will get a different luff
> > measurement than
> > if you just install a block at the masthead....these differences may be
> > inches and i have no idea if that makes a difference in sail shape or
> > size,
> > also where you place your sheet blocks matters in the
> > measurement.....again
> > im not sure if the sheet track on my boat is the same on all boats and
> > if its
> > not the same whether that measurement affects the cut of the sail
> > hope this helps
> > best
> > tom
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