[Rhodes22-list] R. M. Nixon

Steve Alm salm@mn.rr.com
Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:14:26 -0600


C'mon Brad, let's have the dirt on Billy Boy.
Slim

On 1/23/03 4:33 PM, "brad haslett" <flybrad@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wally,
> 
> Wow, I would love to have been a part of that.  My
> only exposure to a real President was I used to fly
> Billy around when he was boy governer of Arkansas.  If
> only I had known.  He was one of my least favorite
> customers, a real jerk in fact, and the "punk kids" he
> surrounded himself with were even worse.  We'll get
> together over some beers and I'll tell you the whole
> story. I got even with the a***, uh, governor one day
> real good.  Maybe that's why I never got invited to
> the Lincoln bedroom.  Excuse me, I digress.  Nixon was
> the first President I ever campaigned for.  I put a
> "NIXONS THE ONE" bumper sticker on every car at the
> Fayette County Illinois fair in 1968 when I was, uh,
> young.  He is still a facinating man, very flawed, but
> interesting.  Opening China was brilliant!  Clinton
> conferred with Nixon several times after he took
> office.  Nixon loved it.  I can remember the day he
> resigned like it was yesterday.  He brought a lot of
> shame to the office that we're still recovering from
> today.  And to think, he was in office during the
> sexual revolution and didn't mess with the interns!
> Pity, Pity.
> 
> Brad
> --- Wally Buck <tnrhodey@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Brad,
>> 
>> Back in the early 70s my Dad was stationed in San
>> Diego. We lived on base
>> and the President was coming to visit. We headed to
>> the Naval Air Station
>> and saw Air Force One come in for a landing and then
>> taxi over to the
>> cheering crowd. Nixon came down from the plane
>> waving to the crowd and
>> stopped to shake hands before jumping in his limo.
>> Well Tricky Dick shook my
>> hand and patted me on the back. I was only thirteen
>> years old and didn't
>> know squat about politics but I really liked Nixon
>> after that. I mean after
>> all he did shake my hand right?
>> 
>> Well a few years later we are living in Fairfax VA
>> (Dads was working at
>> Pentagon then) and Watergate hits the scene. Talk
>> about bursting my bubble.
>> First Agnew is gone and then Nixon announces his
>> resignation.  My Mom wanted
>> us to see history in the making. She loaded up the
>> wagon with the family and
>> we went down to the White House to witness Nixon's
>> infamous exit. We saw him
>> walk over to the helicopter, give his big two handed
>> wave and fly away in
>> disgrace.
>> 
>> It was kind of cool to see all of this first hand.
>> It really opened up my
>> eyes though and I have not trusted politicians ever
>> since.
>> 
>> Wally
>> 
>> 
>>> From: brad haslett <flybrad@yahoo.com>
>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>>> To: wwrhodes@rhodes22.com,The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Social programs.
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:05:42 -0800 (PST)
>>> 
>>> Stan,
>>> 
>>> That reminds me of the campaign rhetoric from 1992
>>> coming from the "pork belly" Senator from NY,
>>> remember, "the greed of the 80's".  Much of the
>>> "paradigm shift" in the "new economy" of the
>> nineties
>>> was "smoke and mirrrors".  My best friend, a very
>>> conservative stock broker, said all through the
>> boom
>>> there wasn't anything to back up the stock prices
>> and
>>> he was right.  Some CEO's, no, make that a lot of
>>> CEO's turned out to be crooks. I hope they go to
>> jail
>>> but they probably won't.  Now we're in the middle
>> of a
>>> recession, business cycle, correction, what ever
>> you
>>> want to call it.  It would have come no matter who
>> was
>>> in office or who ran the SEC just as the Tulip
>> Bubble
>>> burst in Holland several hundred years ago. We've
>> made
>>> money about as cheap as it can get and people
>> aren't
>>> spending.  Now we're running up the deficit just as
>>> FDR did to jump start the economy.  Cutting taxes
>>> worked for Reagan, maybe it will work for 43.  The
>>> truth is, as Richard Nixon lamented, the President
>> is
>>> either hero or goat as a result of the economy with
>>> limited means to change it in the short run... Ah,
>>> Richard Milhous Nixon!  Oh well, save that praise
>> for
>>> another day Bradley.
>>> 
>>> Brad Haslett
>>> --- General Boats <wwrhodes@rhodes22.com> wrote:
>>>> You are talking about the C.E.O. generation the
>>>> government coddled after Levitt
>>>> left the helm of the SEC, right?
>>>> 
>>>> stan/gbi
>>>> 
>>>> Rik Sandberg wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Rummy,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Absolutely agree that a "helping hand"
>> sometimes
>>>> is necessary and good. What
>>>>> we have now is not a helping hand. The better
>>>> share of these people are
>>>>> doing nothing more than mooching their entire
>>>> existence off of the rest of
>>>>> us. Probably can't only blame either them or
>> the
>>>> government for that though,
>>>>> as much as we'd like to, WE are letting them
>> do it
>>>> to us. I'm with Steve
>>>>> here. Once you let people get used to getting
>>>> stuff for nothing, not only do
>>>>> they eventually stop appreciating these
>> benefits,
>>>> they soon also expect
>>>>> more. Just ask them, they'll tell you they
>>>> *deserve* this stuff. Some folks
>>>>> just don't have the strength of character to
>> take
>>>> pride in making their own
>>>>> way through life. Free handouts uncover these
>>>> types very quickly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rik
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: <R22RumRunner@aol.com>
>>>>> To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:18 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Social programs.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Whether we like having our tax dollars going
>> to
>>>> social problems or not,
>>>>> it's
>>>>>> the social programs that help make our
>> society
>>>> what it is. Without the
>>>>>> programs you would have more homeless
>> people,
>>>> health problems, more crime
>>>>> and
>>>>>> a social class without a future.
>>>>>> I'm not advocating free rides. People need
>> to
>>>> work at improving their
>>>>>> situations, but sometimes circumstances put
>> good
>>>> people into bad
>>>>> situations
>>>>>> and they need a helping hand.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rummy
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
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