[Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)

Saroj saroj at pathfind.net
Thu Jul 17 20:45:16 EDT 2003


Will currently-owned 2-cycle motors still be permitted or will they be
banned from all U.S. waters?

Saroj
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)


> IIRC 2006 is the death date for the simply 2 strokes with a carburetor,
both CA and Fed EPA, after that the only 2-stoke left will
> need the fancy fuel injection system(i.e. Mucury Opti-max), the low end
(40hp+- and below) will go all 4-stoke, that why everyone
> has a miolds coming out.
>
> MJM
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)
>
>
> > Steve,
> >
> > Since 2-cycle engines are currently still legal to operate on most
bodies of
> > water in the United States, everyone must decide for themselves what
they
> > want to do re this issue.  Certainly, PWC's & large 2-cycle outboards
> > generate lots more pollution & waste much more fuel than the relatively
> > small & infrequently used outboards on our R-22's.  I realize replacing
an
> > outboard engine is an expensive proposition.  I myself did not switch
over
> > to 4-cycle engines overnight.  The 2-cycle Evinrude 6 came installed on
> > Dynamic Equilibrium when the boat was purchased in 1987 & we ran with
that
> > engine for 9 years.  I replaced the 2-cycle Evinrude 6 on Dynamic
> > Equilibrium with the 4-cycle Honda 8 in 1996.  However, in that same
year, I
> > converted the long shaft Evinrude 6 back to a standard length shaft &
ran
> > the 2-cycle engine on our 10 foot inflatable sport dingy until 2000,
when I
> > purchased the 4-cycle Honda 9.9.  I finally sold the 2-cycle Evinrude at
a
> > yard sale in the summer of 2001.  By that point, the Evinrude was
getting a
> > little tired & looked pretty scruffy, but it still ran reasonably well.
> >
> > The nearly 2X greater fuel consumption & more than 10X greater exhaust
> > emissions issues with 2-cycle marine engines are real & well documented.
> > Their continued use does not represent good stewardship of the planet.
The
> > real question everyone must ask themselves is, "Do you want to be part
of
> > the problem or part of the solution?"  Long term, I think 2-cycle marine
> > engines will either be saddled with so much emissions control technology
> > that the cost, simplicity, & weight advantages over 4-cycle engines will
go
> > away or the 2-cycle engine will be banned altogether.  There is already
a
> > small but steadily growing list of bodies of water wherein it is illegal
to
> > operate 2-cycle marine engines.  That's something to ponder when it
comes
> > time to replace your current outboard.  If you wait until 2-cycle
engines
> > are outlawed; then, your current outboard won't have much resale value.
> > I've already voted with my checkbook.
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)
> >
> >
> > > Well, Roger, I am sure you saw this coming but I like
> > > my little 2 cycle motor.  Pollution & all:-)
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net> wrote:
> > > > Richard,
> > > >
> > > > I can usually follow your line of reasoning; but,
> > > > this time I'm confused.  The discussion was about
> > > > the relative merits of 2-cycle vs 4-cycle marine
> > > > engines.  What do alcohol burning model airplane
> > > > engines have to do with gasoline burning marine
> > > > engines?
> > > >
> > > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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