[Rhodes22-list] Topic is 2 cycle outboard motors

Kroposki kroposki at innova.net
Thu Jul 17 21:08:20 EDT 2003


	Two cycle outboard motors will not be outlawed in 2006.  Only
new outboard motors (both 2 and 4 cycle) that do not meet emission
standards will be outlawed.  Current Tohatsu 2 cycle motors already meet
those standards.  
	We have gone through this discussion how many times?
                          Ed K

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Tonjes
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:55 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)

Roger,
If 2 cycle engines are outlawed, there are going to be a lot of unhappy
loggers, tree trimmers, grass maintenance compamies and homeowners who
use
them for everything from blowing leaves to mowing the lawn. Personally,
I
would prefer to see the 1000 hp cigarette boats with blowers outlawed
long
before the 2 cycles are done in. I talked with a guy a few weeks ago at
a
party with just such a boat. He can go in excess of 100mph on the water.
I
didn't bother asking about fuel consumption, but he did mention he
carried
110 gallons of high test.

Rummy


> [Original Message]
> From: Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: 7/17/2003 5:22:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)
>
> Steve,
>
> Since 2-cycle engines are currently still legal to operate on most
bodies
of
> water in the United States, everyone must decide for themselves what
they
> want to do re this issue.  Certainly, PWC's & large 2-cycle outboards
> generate lots more pollution & waste much more fuel than the
relatively
> small & infrequently used outboards on our R-22's.  I realize
replacing an
> outboard engine is an expensive proposition.  I myself did not switch
over
> to 4-cycle engines overnight.  The 2-cycle Evinrude 6 came installed
on
> Dynamic Equilibrium when the boat was purchased in 1987 & we ran with
that
> engine for 9 years.  I replaced the 2-cycle Evinrude 6 on Dynamic
> Equilibrium with the 4-cycle Honda 8 in 1996.  However, in that same
year, I
> converted the long shaft Evinrude 6 back to a standard length shaft &
ran
> the 2-cycle engine on our 10 foot inflatable sport dingy until 2000,
when
I
> purchased the 4-cycle Honda 9.9.  I finally sold the 2-cycle Evinrude
at a
> yard sale in the summer of 2001.  By that point, the Evinrude was
getting
a
> little tired & looked pretty scruffy, but it still ran reasonably
well.
>
> The nearly 2X greater fuel consumption & more than 10X greater exhaust
> emissions issues with 2-cycle marine engines are real & well
documented.
> Their continued use does not represent good stewardship of the planet.

The
> real question everyone must ask themselves is, "Do you want to be part
of
> the problem or part of the solution?"  Long term, I think 2-cycle
marine
> engines will either be saddled with so much emissions control
technology
> that the cost, simplicity, & weight advantages over 4-cycle engines
will
go
> away or the 2-cycle engine will be banned altogether.  There is
already a
> small but steadily growing list of bodies of water wherein it is
illegal
to
> operate 2-cycle marine engines.  That's something to ponder when it
comes
> time to replace your current outboard.  If you wait until 2-cycle
engines
> are outlawed; then, your current outboard won't have much resale
value.
> I've already voted with my checkbook.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)
>
>
> > Well, Roger, I am sure you saw this coming but I like
> > my little 2 cycle motor.  Pollution & all:-)
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net> wrote:
> > > Richard,
> > >
> > > I can usually follow your line of reasoning; but,
> > > this time I'm confused.  The discussion was about
> > > the relative merits of 2-cycle vs 4-cycle marine
> > > engines.  What do alcohol burning model airplane
> > > engines have to do with gasoline burning marine
> > > engines?
> > >
> > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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