[Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)

[Steve Alm]

Rummy, I'm with you.  The heavy machinery is a much bigger problem.  I doubt
I burn more than fifteen gallons a season.  It's a goddang blowboat for
chirstsake!  If they ban 2 cycles, I would hope that they would put a cap on
it--like over 25 or something.
Slim
P.S. You're partying with the wrong people.

On 7/17/03 6:54 PM, "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Roger,
> If 2 cycle engines are outlawed, there are going to be a lot of unhappy
> loggers, tree trimmers, grass maintenance compamies and homeowners who use
> them for everything from blowing leaves to mowing the lawn. Personally, I
> would prefer to see the 1000 hp cigarette boats with blowers outlawed long
> before the 2 cycles are done in. I talked with a guy a few weeks ago at a
> party with just such a boat. He can go in excess of 100mph on the water. I
> didn't bother asking about fuel consumption, but he did mention he carried
> 110 gallons of high test.
> 
> Rummy
> 
> 
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Date: 7/17/2003 5:22:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)
>> 
>> Steve,
>> 
>> Since 2-cycle engines are currently still legal to operate on most bodies
> of
>> water in the United States, everyone must decide for themselves what they
>> want to do re this issue.  Certainly, PWC's & large 2-cycle outboards
>> generate lots more pollution & waste much more fuel than the relatively
>> small & infrequently used outboards on our R-22's.  I realize replacing an
>> outboard engine is an expensive proposition.  I myself did not switch over
>> to 4-cycle engines overnight.  The 2-cycle Evinrude 6 came installed on
>> Dynamic Equilibrium when the boat was purchased in 1987 & we ran with that
>> engine for 9 years.  I replaced the 2-cycle Evinrude 6 on Dynamic
>> Equilibrium with the 4-cycle Honda 8 in 1996.  However, in that same
> year, I
>> converted the long shaft Evinrude 6 back to a standard length shaft & ran
>> the 2-cycle engine on our 10 foot inflatable sport dingy until 2000, when
> I
>> purchased the 4-cycle Honda 9.9.  I finally sold the 2-cycle Evinrude at a
>> yard sale in the summer of 2001.  By that point, the Evinrude was getting
> a
>> little tired & looked pretty scruffy, but it still ran reasonably well.
>> 
>> The nearly 2X greater fuel consumption & more than 10X greater exhaust
>> emissions issues with 2-cycle marine engines are real & well documented.
>> Their continued use does not represent good stewardship of the planet.
> The
>> real question everyone must ask themselves is, "Do you want to be part of
>> the problem or part of the solution?"  Long term, I think 2-cycle marine
>> engines will either be saddled with so much emissions control technology
>> that the cost, simplicity, & weight advantages over 4-cycle engines will
> go
>> away or the 2-cycle engine will be banned altogether.  There is already a
>> small but steadily growing list of bodies of water wherein it is illegal
> to
>> operate 2-cycle marine engines.  That's something to ponder when it comes
>> time to replace your current outboard.  If you wait until 2-cycle engines
>> are outlawed; then, your current outboard won't have much resale value.
>> I've already voted with my checkbook.
>> 
>> Roger Pihlaja
>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)
>> 
>> 
>>> Well, Roger, I am sure you saw this coming but I like
>>> my little 2 cycle motor.  Pollution & all:-)
>>> Steve
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net> wrote:
>>>> Richard,
>>>> 
>>>> I can usually follow your line of reasoning; but,
>>>> this time I'm confused.  The discussion was about
>>>> the relative merits of 2-cycle vs 4-cycle marine
>>>> engines.  What do alcohol burning model airplane
>>>> engines have to do with gasoline burning marine
>>>> engines?
>>>> 
>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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