[Rhodes22-list] Another Danforth question

Tue Jul 22 17:29:03 EDT 2003

if you do not get it to set the first time, why will it reset the first time? (it has a habit of skiping over the bottom when it
happens, the point scrape trhe surface and do not dig in)

The bruce has a low surface area, in soft stuff surface area is what counts most. also thats only good point about a danforth :-)
The bruce does fine in my area, one of the better thing it best for low scope and sets quick and does not care how it is thron(like
throwing it out while drifting to rocks :), the tick about it. it "digs" hopeful down to something more soild. Pure soft deep mud it
not the best, but that is not most bottom. BTW I keep it in a rubbermaidf under the seat, the 5kg is the biggest that works thier,
7.5kg bag might be better fit for the boat(also has more surface for mud). for a storm anchor I would use a spade, the storm number
for the boat and in the 900-1100 pund range, thats were the 1/4 inch chain, 3/8 line(to 7/16) line(so it streaches to absorbe the
stress and stop breaking out the anchor) and the spade anchor(only common anchor rated that high) that reset fast and everytime.
Just my option.

MJM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at netreach.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Another Danforth question

> Michael,
> My wife is not going to lift anything!!!   ;-)  But I would say that even
> 26 lbs. is about the limit for what I want to routinely schlep around the
> boat. We do not keep an anchor on the bow. For routine anchoring in a quiet
> anchorage I carry the bag with the anchor and rode forward. On the
> Chesapeake, the Danforth is great. Most bottoms are soft mud. It digs in so
> well that we haven't worried about it resetting and extra chain would help
> there. I think for routine anchoring if we add more chain, the Danforth we
> have will continue to serve.  We do not always get it to set on the first
> try but I'm very conservative about such things. I'd rather pull it up and
> set it again if I'm unsure about it holding.
>
> My larger concern is the "always ready" anchor. Is your "always ready" the
> 5 kg claw? What does it do on a mud bottom?  We keep the Danforth in the
> lazarette in a bag in a ready state (anchor on top, chain beneath, rode
> neatly flaked under that and the bitter end out through a grommet in the
> bag for quick attaching.) We could deploy it pretty quickly from the stern
> if we had to but we've never had to - our Honda is very reliable ;-)
>
> I've also been debating a storm anchor as our current Danforth is really
> not big enough for that. We've been relying on the fact that we have two
> (the Danforth and the Danforth type from GB) aboard both with sufficient
> rode to be set for a storm. In reality we've only ever set the one and have
> probably not ever anchored in winds above 15 knots with maybe 20 knot gusts.
>
> Does anyone use the GB Danforth type anchor?
>
> Mary Lou
>
>
>
>
>
> At 11:14 PM 7/21/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >The spade is the best :-)
> >
> >  the answer "it depends".
> >1)The spade it best of class these day, highest holding, all bottom type,
> >fast set and reset, will not sail, pay deadly and hard to
> >store without a roller, r22 size is model 60, it does break down, use it
> >for storm and to sleep on.
> >2)Bruce(claw), best for short scope, fast set and reset, will not sail,
> >great for rocky, hard and hard sand, not great in soft
> >mud(it need to backed down into hard stuff), the claw is cheap enough that
> >if you thing you might loose your anchor(slip the rode)
> >it the one. hard to store anything other the 5kg on the boat. I use it for
> >the "always ready anchor". rode out 40 knot gale on it.
> >3)the danforth, I hate them, they only seem to work in soft mud, anything
> >else, do not reset but skip over the bottom and rarely get
> >more then one "point " in the bottom, you keep moving once dragging
> >starts, biggest problem is they sail when you need them
> >most(like lost an engine), only saving grace is they are light and store
> >on the bow, but most people do not keep the rode connected
> >so they are not ready to run., 12 pound seems to be a r22 size.
> >4)qcr,delta, plowtype's they weight to for the rhodes22 size, they do not
> >break down and are very hard to store.
> >5)the fisherman is the standard for rocks/weeds but no one seems to use
> >them anymore.
> >6)any 2-stoke motor :-) sorry bill.
> >
> >I think Richard did a good job with the chain, but my two cents worth, I
> >use 1 foot of chain per boat length,(rule of thumb around
> >me, it mostly to protect the rode from the bottom but does help with the
> >scope) but you must watch the total system weight, keep in
> >mind that your wife is going to lift it, 1/4 chain is fine for the boat,
> >22 feet at .65 pound per foot is 14 pounds plus 12 pounds
> >for the anchor is about the limit of women can lift and move around a
> >deck(sorry unPC), soon or later she will be lifting the full
> >weight from anchoring to deep, if it's to heavy the boat will be scratched up.
> >
> >For your next question, get 200 feet of NewEngland 3/8 3 strand. the 1/2
> >is to stiff for the boat, this is a case were bigger is not
> >better, for a storm anchor 200 feet of 7/16, and use a shackle not a
> >swivel(it will unwind the 3 strand).
> >
> >MJM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at netreach.net>
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:11 PM
> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another Danforth question
> >
> >
> > > Has anyone had the opportunity to compare the painted Danforth type anchor
> > > that comes with the boat with one of the true Danforth's? for our primary
> > > anchor we've been  using a true Danforth that we had as the big anchor for
> > > our ComPac 16 rather than the anchor that came with the boat. I know the
> > > Danforth well enough to usually get it to set the first time. It's been so
> > > successful that we haven't tried the other which is not much (if any)
> > > larger but I'm curious about how well the other anchor works.
> > >
> > > Mary Lou
> > > 1991 Rhodes 22 Fretless
> > > Rock Hall, MD / Ft. Washington, PA
> > >
> > >
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