[Rhodes22-list] Mast Lowering

[Bill Effros]

Slim,

I have hoisted the IMF with one other guy (the key is the height of the taller person--as the mast approaches vertical, shorter people run out of leverage to move it the rest of the way and have to "throw it" the last few degrees)--it can be done sober.

I have also hoisted similar (but not as heavy) rigs using both winches and wenches.  

If it's a calm day, and the load is properly balanced, and lines are properly attached, everything can go well.  But things can also go very badly.  Rigs drop.  People get hurt.  I would not advise this to anyone who has not done it before.  I would not do it on the water.  I would not do it on a windy day.  I would not do it with inexperienced helpers.  I would not do it if I were tired.

Stan has tried to develop a "bullet-proof" procedure that anyone can use single handed.   His current rig comes close.  It is possible to screw it up, but the rig will probably support the load, and it is much less likely that anyone will get hurt.  

I think of it as cheap insurance, and I always recommend that people use a well designed system rather than hoping they will be strong enough, or alert enough, or smart enough to re-invent the wheel, with so much at stake.

Bill Effros


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Steve Alm 
To: Rhodes 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Lowering


Anne,

I do TOO have an IMF--that's exactly why I'd prefer to use a winch rather
than man-power and a twelve pack. 8-)  However, I confess I haven't tried
the method I described, because I have the GB hoisting rig, but I'll bet it
works fine.  That's how Bob H. did it on Getaway--now owned by Rob Lowe.
Rob??? Help me out here, buddy! And if you don't have a trailer, you could
set up a temporary winch on the bow, or, well...why don't you just get the
GB rig?  Believe me, it's too good to be true.

And never mind that Minnesota thing--love me for who I am!  8-)  I spent a
lot of my years in Mankato, but I'm really just a poor kid from the res.
(South Dakota)  

Slim

P.S. Yeah, good one Lloyd!

On 7/29/03 9:32 PM, "anima" <anima13 at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Steve,
> You cannot even join this conversation...first you have an empty
> mast (no IMF...that is heavy!!!) and I have no trailer!
> Love ya cuz yer a Minnesotan,,
> Anne
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Alm" <salm at mn.rr.com>
> To: "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:11 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Lowering
> 
> 
>> Anne and Rummy,
>> 
>> You both may already know this one, but it's worth mentioning.  You can
>> raise and lower the mast with the winch on the front of the trailer.  Of
>> course this presumes the boat is on the trailer and not in the water.  You
>> need some kind of gin pole, which can be made of two by fours.  Some have
>> used two 2 X 4's set up like an upside down "V".  Find a way to brace the
>> foot of the gin pole(s) on the deck and then connect the aft lower shrouds
>> to the top on the pole(s).  Then connect the winch line to the top of the
>> gin pole and lower/raise away.  You don't need the other three guys and
> you
>> get to drink the cold twelve pack by yourself.   8-)
>> 
>> Slim
>> 
>> On 7/29/03 7:41 AM, "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Anne,
>>> A cold twelve pack and three guys should be able to lower and raise the
>>> mast. I do it all the time. Have two people handle the mast and one on
> the
>>> traveler. I use the traveler like a ski tow rope. It also means that I
>>> lower the mast toward the bow and not the stern like those with the
> crane
>>> from GB.
>>> 
>>> Rummy
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> [Original Message]
>>>> From: anima <anima13 at bellsouth.net>
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Date: 7/29/2003 7:46:34 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  caution  boom fittings
>>>> 
>>>> The little plastic pieces at the bottom do come out if pried.
>>>> there are a few little screws to remove if you look carefully.
>>>> After that, the spool slides down ward enough. I could then
>>>>  remove the sail. Next I replaced the spool and forestay is
>>>> holding all fine. I will have to lower mast ($$) to replace repaired
>>>> sail.
>>>> Anne
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <FNuttersNY at aol.com>
>>>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 7:48 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] caution boom fittings
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Anne did you slide the rig of the wire spool tube sail and all?
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