[Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks

lcrowther lcrowther at cox.net
Wed Jun 18 13:05:14 EDT 2003



Steve,

You wouldn't have a picture of your bimini support poles in place that you
could share, would you?

Lloyd

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks


> I use bimini support poles that hold it up and in
> place.  Have never had a problem with the bimini being
> in the way.
> Steve
>
>
> --- Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net> wrote:
> > Wally,
> > You're right the bimini is large and it can get in
> > the way but we've gotten
> > to the point that we are so used to ours we don't
> > mind stepping over or
> > around it. Ours is a fixed mount but it will rest on
> > the cabintop or
> > against the raised pop-top if we are sailing with
> > the pop-top up. When
> > we're sailing and don't want to use it (usually in
> > higher winds) we put on
> > the cabintop. Otherwise it's great for keeping both
> > sun and rain off.  It's
> > been a great place to hang our foulies all spring.
> > When we leave the boat
> > we bungie it to the boom.
> >
> > Mary Lou
> >
> > At 08:19 AM 6/18/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > >MJM,
> > >
> > >One reason I have held off on the Bimini is I have
> > gotten the impression
> > >that it is rather large and can get in the way. I
> > liked the idea of
> > >sliding forward and resting Bimini on cabin top
> > when not in use. It sounds
> > >like you have had this setup and were less than
> > pleased. Besides breaking
> > >what are the other downsides?
> > >
> > >Regarding the new design, I gather it is a fixed
> > mount, so when not in use
> > >does where does it sit?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Wally
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> > >>Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:17:12 -0400
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>I am not so sure, Stan changed the design, he is
> > now using a nice piece
> > >>of hardware that gets installed in the fiberglass,
> > folds
> > >>flat when not in use(saw a set in the rain :-),
> > much better mount. The
> > >>track mounted ones are nice but I managed to
> > destroy a set
> > >>and they do get in the way in use. BTW is a simple
> > mater of making a set
> > >>track ones from west parts.
> > >>
> > >>MJM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: "lcrowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> > >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >>Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:57 PM
> > >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Wally,
> > >> >
> > >> > Maybe Stan will order some more, there seems to
> > be some interest on
> > >> the list
> > >> > now!
> > >> >
> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > >> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:41 PM
> > >> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > So if I understand correctly the hardware
> > used in the posted pics is no
> > >> > > longer available from GB? What a shame I was
> > thinking of breaking
> > >> down and
> > >> > > buying ....
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Wally
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >From: Bill Berner <bberner at optonline.net>
> > >> > > >Reply-To: bberner at optonline.net,The Rhodes
> > 22 mail list
> > >> > > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >> > > >To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >> > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> > tracks
> > >> > > >Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:29:41 -0400
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >Lloyd -
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >Don't mind at all.  Didn't realize it was a
> > response to me!  They are
> > >> > great
> > >> > > >shots, and I'm jealous.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >Stan apparently doesn't have any more, or is
> > (reasonably) holding
> > >> them in
> > >> > > >reserve for the boats he's
> > building/recycling.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >The alternative seems to be getting "bimini
> > tracks" and slides
> > >> which are
> > >> > > >available from WM and putting more junk on
> > the gunnels.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >Haven't gotten around to it but expect to do
> > so.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >Will post my experience when complete.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >Thanks again for the pix.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >BB
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >Bill Berner
> > >> > > >191 South Broadway
> > >> > > >Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >v 914 478 2896
> > >> > > >f 914 478 3856
> > >> > > >e BBerner at optonline.net
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > >> > > >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > >> > > >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]
> > On Behalf Of lcrowther
> > >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:14 AM
> > >> > > >To: New Rhodes22 List
> > >> > > >Subject: Fw: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> > tracks
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >Ed,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >I only know that my track width is, or was.
> > standard GB issue.  the
> > >> > reason
> > >> > > >I
> > >> > > >put the pictures in this list is because
> > Bill Berner asked me about the
> > >> > > >cars.  Since there seems to be a general
> > interest or curiosity about
> > >> > > >movable
> > >> > > >Bimini mounts I am posting the
> > correspondence with Bill before I
> > >> took the
> > >> > > >pictures.  Hope you don't mind, Bill!
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >Lloyd
> > >> > > >s/v Uhuru II
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > >From: "lcrowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> > >> > > >To: <bberner at optonline.net>
> > >> > > >Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:14 PM
> > >> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> > tracks
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > Bill,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > The car is made of a black plastic block
> > with a groove on the bottom
> > >> > and
> > >> > > > > lips at the bottom of the groove sides
> > which will fit under the
> > >> track.
> > >> > > >(You
> > >> > > > > have to take off one stop, located at the
> > ends of each the track, to
> > >> > fit
> > >> > > > > each block onto its track.)  On the top
> > of the block, mounted by two
> > >> > > >screws,
> > >> > > > > is the same fitting that looks as if it
> > could be positioned on the
> > >> > deck
> > >> > > >as
> > >> > > >a
> > >> > > > > fixed-position Bimini mount.  This
> > fitting, which is screwed to the
> > >> > top
> > >> > > >of
> > >> > > > > the block, has a slot on top that takes
> > the fitting tongue
> > >> located at
> > >> > > >the
> > >> > > > > bottom of the Bimini tubing.  The slot on
> > the top of the fitting
> > >> that
> > >> > is
> > >> > > > > screwed on the top of the block has a
> > screw hole through both
> > >> sides; a
> > >> > > >screw
> > >> > > > > goes through one hole of this car
> > fitting, through the hole in the
> > >> > > >tongue
> > >> > > >of
> > >> > > > > the Bimini pipe fitting, and through the
> > hole in the other side car
> > >> > > >fitting.
> > >> > > > > The whole black plastic car unit is
> > apparently made especially for
> > >> > Stan,
> > >> > > >he
> > >> > > > > had a whole bin full of them in April of
> > 2002.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Sorry this explanation is so convoluted,
> > hope you can figure it out.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Lloyd
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > > > From: "Bill Berner"
> > <bberner at optonline.net>
> > >> > > > > To: "'lcrowther'" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> > >> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:37 AM
> > >> > > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> > tracks
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Lloyd -
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > What does the lead car look like?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I can't see how the end fitting on the
> > bimini would mount to any of
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > > cars/fittings that are in the WM catalog.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Thanks.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > BB
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Bill Berner
> > >> > > > > 191 South Broadway
> > >> > > > > Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > v 914 478 2896
> > >> > > > > f 914 478 3856
> > >> > > > > e BBerner at optonline.net
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > > > From: lcrowther
> > [mailto:lcrowther at cox.net]
> > >> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:09 AM
> > >> > > > > To: bberner at optonline.net; The Rhodes 22
> > mail list
> > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> > tracks
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Bill,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Last spring I went down to GB and bought
> > a used Bimini from Stan.
> > >>I
> > >> > > >also
> > >> > > > > bought two (Bimini Mounting?) cars that I
> > mounted on the Genoa lead
> > >> > car
> > >> > > > > tracks in front of the Genoa leads.  My
> > track goes well back of my
> > >> > > >winches
> > >> > > > > and is very long but when I looked at the
> > boats Stan had in for
> > >> > > >repair,etc.
> > >> > > > > the track layouts came in several
> > configurations.  When my Bimini is
> > >> > > >folded
> > >> > > > > down I push the Bimini cars forward so
> > the folded down Bimini
> > >> crosses
> > >> > > >the
> > >> > > > > cabin roof far enough forward so it does
> > not interfere with the
> > >> access
> > >> > > > > below.  I seldom use my Bimini under
> > sail; under power, in my
> > >> slip, or
> > >> > > >at
> > >> > > > > anchor it is great.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Lloyd
> > >> > > > > s/v Uhuru II
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > > > From: "Bill Berner"
> > <bberner at optonline.net>
> > >> > > > > To: <Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >> > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 2:20 PM
> > >> > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> > tracks
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Last year we got a bimini from GB.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I'm interested in mounting it on a track,
> > in the hopes that I'll be
> > >> > able
> > >> > > >to
> > >> > > > > slide it forward some in order to make it
> > easier to sit up on the
> > >> > > >gunnels
> > >> > > > > when the boat is heeled over.  As set now
> > it is really in the
> > >> way, and
> > >> > > >also
> > >> > > > > a bit in the way of the genoa sheets if
> > the fairleads are set
> > >> close to
> > >> > > >the
> > >> > > > > winches.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > So my question is - anybody else got
> > theirs on tracks.  Do you
> > >> use the
> > >> > > >genoa
> > >> > > > > lead car track, and if so with what
> > hardware.  Do you use a separate
> > >> > > >bimini
> > >> > > > > track outboard or inboard of the genoa
> > track?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > As Rumsfeld said, there are things we
> > know, things we know we don't
> > >> > > >know,
> > >> > > > > and things we don't know that we don't
> > know.  Applies to me with
> > >> this
> > >> > > > > question.  All help appreciated.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Thanks.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > BB
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Bill Berner
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > 191 South Broadway
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > v 914 478 2896
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > f 914 478 3856
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > e BBerner at optonline.net
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
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