[Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks

Steve rhodes2282 at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 18 07:24:32 EDT 2003 

I use bimini support poles that hold it up and in
place.  Have never had a problem with the bimini being
in the way.
Steve


--- Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net> wrote:
> Wally,
> You're right the bimini is large and it can get in
> the way but we've gotten 
> to the point that we are so used to ours we don't
> mind stepping over or 
> around it. Ours is a fixed mount but it will rest on
> the cabintop or 
> against the raised pop-top if we are sailing with
> the pop-top up. When 
> we're sailing and don't want to use it (usually in
> higher winds) we put on 
> the cabintop. Otherwise it's great for keeping both
> sun and rain off.  It's 
> been a great place to hang our foulies all spring.
> When we leave the boat 
> we bungie it to the boom.
> 
> Mary Lou
> 
> At 08:19 AM 6/18/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >MJM,
> >
> >One reason I have held off on the Bimini is I have
> gotten the impression 
> >that it is rather large and can get in the way. I
> liked the idea of 
> >sliding forward and resting Bimini on cabin top
> when not in use. It sounds 
> >like you have had this setup and were less than
> pleased. Besides breaking 
> >what are the other downsides?
> >
> >Regarding the new design, I gather it is a fixed
> mount, so when not in use 
> >does where does it sit?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Wally
> >
> >
> >>From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> >>Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:17:12 -0400
> >>
> >>
> >>I am not so sure, Stan changed the design, he is
> now using a nice piece 
> >>of hardware that gets installed in the fiberglass,
> folds
> >>flat when not in use(saw a set in the rain :-),
> much better mount. The 
> >>track mounted ones are nice but I managed to
> destroy a set
> >>and they do get in the way in use. BTW is a simple
> mater of making a set 
> >>track ones from west parts.
> >>
> >>MJM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "lcrowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:57 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> >>
> >>
> >> > Wally,
> >> >
> >> > Maybe Stan will order some more, there seems to
> be some interest on 
> >> the list
> >> > now!
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> >> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:41 PM
> >> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > So if I understand correctly the hardware
> used in the posted pics is no
> >> > > longer available from GB? What a shame I was
> thinking of breaking 
> >> down and
> >> > > buying ....
> >> > >
> >> > > Wally
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > >From: Bill Berner <bberner at optonline.net>
> >> > > >Reply-To: bberner at optonline.net,The Rhodes
> 22 mail list
> >> > > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> > > >To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> tracks
> >> > > >Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:29:41 -0400
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Lloyd -
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Don't mind at all.  Didn't realize it was a
> response to me!  They are
> >> > great
> >> > > >shots, and I'm jealous.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Stan apparently doesn't have any more, or is
> (reasonably) holding 
> >> them in
> >> > > >reserve for the boats he's
> building/recycling.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >The alternative seems to be getting "bimini
> tracks" and slides 
> >> which are
> >> > > >available from WM and putting more junk on
> the gunnels.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Haven't gotten around to it but expect to do
> so.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Will post my experience when complete.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Thanks again for the pix.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >BB
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Bill Berner
> >> > > >191 South Broadway
> >> > > >Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
> >> > > >
> >> > > >v 914 478 2896
> >> > > >f 914 478 3856
> >> > > >e BBerner at optonline.net
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > > >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> > > >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]
> On Behalf Of lcrowther
> >> > > >Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:14 AM
> >> > > >To: New Rhodes22 List
> >> > > >Subject: Fw: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> tracks
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Ed,
> >> > > >
> >> > > >I only know that my track width is, or was.
> standard GB issue.  the
> >> > reason
> >> > > >I
> >> > > >put the pictures in this list is because
> Bill Berner asked me about the
> >> > > >cars.  Since there seems to be a general
> interest or curiosity about
> >> > > >movable
> >> > > >Bimini mounts I am posting the
> correspondence with Bill before I 
> >> took the
> >> > > >pictures.  Hope you don't mind, Bill!
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Lloyd
> >> > > >s/v Uhuru II
> >> > > >
> >> > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >From: "lcrowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> >> > > >To: <bberner at optonline.net>
> >> > > >Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:14 PM
> >> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> tracks
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Bill,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > The car is made of a black plastic block
> with a groove on the bottom
> >> > and
> >> > > > > lips at the bottom of the groove sides
> which will fit under the 
> >> track.
> >> > > >(You
> >> > > > > have to take off one stop, located at the
> ends of each the track, to
> >> > fit
> >> > > > > each block onto its track.)  On the top
> of the block, mounted by two
> >> > > >screws,
> >> > > > > is the same fitting that looks as if it
> could be positioned on the
> >> > deck
> >> > > >as
> >> > > >a
> >> > > > > fixed-position Bimini mount.  This
> fitting, which is screwed to the
> >> > top
> >> > > >of
> >> > > > > the block, has a slot on top that takes
> the fitting tongue 
> >> located at
> >> > > >the
> >> > > > > bottom of the Bimini tubing.  The slot on
> the top of the fitting 
> >> that
> >> > is
> >> > > > > screwed on the top of the block has a
> screw hole through both 
> >> sides; a
> >> > > >screw
> >> > > > > goes through one hole of this car
> fitting, through the hole in the
> >> > > >tongue
> >> > > >of
> >> > > > > the Bimini pipe fitting, and through the
> hole in the other side car
> >> > > >fitting.
> >> > > > > The whole black plastic car unit is
> apparently made especially for
> >> > Stan,
> >> > > >he
> >> > > > > had a whole bin full of them in April of
> 2002.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Sorry this explanation is so convoluted,
> hope you can figure it out.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Lloyd
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: "Bill Berner"
> <bberner at optonline.net>
> >> > > > > To: "'lcrowther'" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> >> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:37 AM
> >> > > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> tracks
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Lloyd -
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > What does the lead car look like?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I can't see how the end fitting on the
> bimini would mount to any of
> >> > the
> >> > > > > cars/fittings that are in the WM catalog.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > BB
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Bill Berner
> >> > > > > 191 South Broadway
> >> > > > > Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > v 914 478 2896
> >> > > > > f 914 478 3856
> >> > > > > e BBerner at optonline.net
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > From: lcrowther
> [mailto:lcrowther at cox.net]
> >> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:09 AM
> >> > > > > To: bberner at optonline.net; The Rhodes 22
> mail list
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> tracks
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Bill,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Last spring I went down to GB and bought
> a used Bimini from Stan.
> >>I
> >> > > >also
> >> > > > > bought two (Bimini Mounting?) cars that I
> mounted on the Genoa lead
> >> > car
> >> > > > > tracks in front of the Genoa leads.  My
> track goes well back of my
> >> > > >winches
> >> > > > > and is very long but when I looked at the
> boats Stan had in for
> >> > > >repair,etc.
> >> > > > > the track layouts came in several
> configurations.  When my Bimini is
> >> > > >folded
> >> > > > > down I push the Bimini cars forward so
> the folded down Bimini 
> >> crosses
> >> > > >the
> >> > > > > cabin roof far enough forward so it does
> not interfere with the 
> >> access
> >> > > > > below.  I seldom use my Bimini under
> sail; under power, in my 
> >> slip, or
> >> > > >at
> >> > > > > anchor it is great.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Lloyd
> >> > > > > s/v Uhuru II
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: "Bill Berner"
> <bberner at optonline.net>
> >> > > > > To: <Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 2:20 PM
> >> > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on
> tracks
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Last year we got a bimini from GB.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I'm interested in mounting it on a track,
> in the hopes that I'll be
> >> > able
> >> > > >to
> >> > > > > slide it forward some in order to make it
> easier to sit up on the
> >> > > >gunnels
> >> > > > > when the boat is heeled over.  As set now
> it is really in the 
> >> way, and
> >> > > >also
> >> > > > > a bit in the way of the genoa sheets if
> the fairleads are set 
> >> close to
> >> > > >the
> >> > > > > winches.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > So my question is - anybody else got
> theirs on tracks.  Do you 
> >> use the
> >> > > >genoa
> >> > > > > lead car track, and if so with what
> hardware.  Do you use a separate
> >> > > >bimini
> >> > > > > track outboard or inboard of the genoa
> track?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > As Rumsfeld said, there are things we
> know, things we know we don't
> >> > > >know,
> >> > > > > and things we don't know that we don't
> know.  Applies to me with 
> >> this
> >> > > > > question.  All help appreciated.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > BB
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Bill Berner
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > 191 South Broadway
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > v 914 478 2896
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > f 914 478 3856
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > e BBerner at optonline.net
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
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