[Rhodes22-list] Dimension on rigging

Wally Buck tnrhodey@hotmail.com
Wed, 05 Mar 2003 12:30:05 -0500 

Jay,

I went sailing this weekend but forgot my camera. I did take a closer look 
at things and the block does hang lower than I remembered. I think 22.5 
sounds right. This has always worked well for me.

Good luck,

Wally



>From: Jay Friedland <a.jayf@verizon.net>
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>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dimension on rigging
>Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 10:12:33 -0500
>
>Wally-
>Had to measure and interpolate with Michael's isoceles triangle method. 
>Using the higher boom position of 23'3" and 10'9" on the boom, the rough 
>squared total of 629 left a 25' dimension. I made a cable at 22.5' with the 
>balance for block and 6' + line. Getting a small cleat on the boom end 
>seems like a trick though, otherwise a horn cleat to tie it off.
>
>Jay
>
>
>On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 04:06 PM, Wally Buck wrote:
>
>>J,
>>
>>Well a rough guess......
>>
>>You want the cable with block to hang low enough for you to reach and high 
>>enough to allow you to raise boom. I think I have to stand on the cockpit 
>>bench to reach block but it has been a while since I had to rethread line. 
>>You don't want to have to go up the mast to rethread line right?
>>
>>The mast is 26 ft., but with the boom in the highest position it is closer 
>>to 22 feet or so (I am guessing here). The boom is about 9 or 10 feet give 
>>or take.... 30 feet is going to be long, 16 - 18 sounds short. I would 
>>guess at about 19 or 20 feet. It would be better to err on the long side, 
>>you could always shorten.
>>
>>MJM - There is no excess to cleat, the cable has a block at the end. I 
>>have a line about 6 feet or so in length attached at the aft end of the 
>>boom. This line goes a couple a feet up to the block and back. It is then 
>>secured in a cleat on the aft end of the boom.
>>
>>Good luck,
>>
>>Wally
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Jay Friedland <a.jayf@verizon.net>
>>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dimension on rigging
>>>Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:20:49 -0500
>>>
>>>Michael,
>>>
>>>That's way to logical. first, it assumes my mast is straight...
>>>Really I thought to do a rough this way, but realized the forestay is 27' 
>>>and change to the deck, less the cabin, less the height of the boom above 
>>>the cabin, so I was about 21'  at 60 degrees...
>>>
>>>30'+ doesn't seem right based on that. As i was doing a cable with 
>>>nicropress fittings over thimbles, the line could make up the difference.
>>>J
>>>
>>>On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 03:04 PM, Michael Meltzer wrote:
>>>
>>>>well lets see c^2=a^2+b^2
>>>>
>>>>a=+-12
>>>>b=+-28
>>>>c=30.4 should be about right, add a few feet for cleating, easier to cut 
>>>>it and it is cheap line, the mast might be only 26 feet but
>>>>doing it off the top of my head
>>>>
>>>>MJM
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Jay Friedland" <a.jayf@verizon.net>
>>>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 2:47 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dimension on rigging
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Wally-
>>>>>How about a rough guess, as I'm heading to the factory this weekend,
>>>>>weather permitting, and will need to have a dimension then. Because the
>>>>>dimension is non-critical, as it's taken up from block and line, I was
>>>>>thinking 16-18'. If Stan had a mast up or could break away from
>>>>>production, I could tap him as well. I should be ok if you didn't need
>>>>>to visit your boat.
>>>>>
>>>>>For Rummy, unless I released the line, the boom wouldn't have enough
>>>>>slack for lower position. Or are you saying the line is redundant, and
>>>>>even a bungee cord would keep it from dragging when furled? You are a
>>>>>master of simplicity. I like the idea of controlling the boom from
>>>>>excessive swinging in light winds and all. Worth considering.
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>J
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 10:35 AM, Wally Buck wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>J,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If I make it to the boat this weekend I will try to get a photo and/or
>>>>>>some measurements. I think my cable hangs down about 2 or three feet
>>>>>>higher than the boom when placed in highest position.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I wish I could be more exact, sorry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wally
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From: Jay Friedland <a.jayf@verizon.net>
>>>>>>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dimension on rigging
>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:12:08 -0500
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Folks,
>>>>>>>With dead-ending the topping lift for the boom, I'm looking for the
>>>>>>>length of cable with thimbles needed. Using the IMF, I need the
>>>>>>>ability to drop the boom to the lower position with block and line.
>>>>>>>Any recommendations on this?
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Jay
>>>>>>>
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