[Rhodes22-list] How does all that water find it's way to the bilge.

[Eaton, Gil]

	I'll try to take a picture this weekend.  The two ends of the PVC
attach with "T"'s (slot cut with hacksaw) to the bow and stern pulpits.
Another "T" goes to the mast base and uses the same bolt.  Next time I will
use more pipe to get more height over the cockpit and another upright
support, but it's still doable to crawl in and work in the cabin.  I kept a
worklight on in the cabin, it's still dry and without any odor (execept for
a faint odor of Rum...). <g>
	gil


-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Miller [mailto:re.miller@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:18 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How does all that water find it's way to
the bilge.


How about a diagram or pic of how you designed the PVC support gizmo?

Russ

s/v Bulldog
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eaton, Gil" <GEaton@IKON.com>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] How does all that water find it's way to the
bilge.


> Hi Bill,
> You make me feel better getting the hd truck tarp from Northern
> Tool.  It's a 12x24 Tarp held up with 1.5" pvc pipes, I think it was a
good
> idea for this year, it's still in good condition.  Picture attached.
> gil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Effros [mailto:bill@effros.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:35 AM
> To: bberner@optonline.net; The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How does all that water find it's way to
> the bilge.
>
>
> Bill,
>
> I feel better.
>
> I went to my boat 2 days ago and found the same problem, only worse. I had
> an inch thick sheet of ice in the cabin and 2 inches thick in the cockpit.
>
> I made 2 mistakes I know of.
>
> 1.  I haven't been checking the boat regularly as I have done in past
> winters.
> 2.  I didn't leave the boat very high at the bow on the trailer as I have
in
> the past.
>
> Most of the water has thawed over the past couple of days.  (The bilge is
> still a block of ice.)  Water got everywhere.
>
> We have never had a winter like this since I've had my R22.  I've never
had
> even the slightest problem in the past.
>
> I think snow + rain is the problem.   All the drain holes were plugged
with
> ice, so at some point the water had nowhere to go.  With frozen snow all
> over the place, the rain wasn't channeled anywhere.  It puddled.  Froze.
> Thawed.  Seeped.
>
> Boats with tarps did no better than ours.  Many tarps were shredded.
There
> was a lot of damage to things holding up the tarps.  Some boats with tarps
> were hurt on their trailers because snow in the tarp put weight in
> unexpected places.
>
> Bruce told me his boat did not suffer water damage.  Parked without a tarp
> 25 feet away from mine.  I think his bow might have been a bit higher than
> mine.
>
> So I thought it was just me, and I couldn't figure it out.  Thanks for
> letting me know I'm not alone on this one.
>
> Bill Effros
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Berner" <bberner@optonline.net>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:00 AM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] How does all that water find it's way to the
bilge.
>
>
> It's finally been warm the last few days here in the North East, so I
headed
> off to my boat club to check up on my boat.
>
> I must confess that I never covered it at the end of the season last
year -
> just put it on the trailer, parked it where they told me, took off the
> cushions, and expensive stuff from the cabin, and took down the genoa.
>
> Went back to check things out once before all the snow kicked in.
>
> Yesterday's inspection was pretty good with one GLARING exception.
>
> Upon checking the bilge I found water nearly up to the underside of the
> cabin sole.  Now the boats bow is higher than the stern on the trailer,
and
> when I looked at the carpet in the aft end of the cabin, I found it was
wet.
> Apparently water had even soaked through the sole into the carpet back
> there.
>
> I have a deck plate in the hole for the nicro vent on the bow.
>
> I also found some, but not an alarming amount of water in the lazarette.
>
> There are no signs in the cabin of water having come in from above decks.
>
> The boat is leaning a bit to starboard on the trailer, and the starboard
> seat drain is stopped up.  The port drain is clear.
>
> There was no water in the cockpit.  The cockpit drain is clear.
>
> So how did that volume of water find its way into the bilge?
>
> Any ideas? Theories and experiences welcomed.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Bill Berner
> 191 South Broadway
> Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
>
> v 914 478 2896
> f 914 478 3856
> e BBerner@optonline.net
>
>
>
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