wrapping/covering was [Rhodes22-list] How does all that water find it's way to the bilge.

Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:37:04 -0500

I'm with Bill E on being glad I didn't cover the boat.
In the past, I've also used a blue tarp, running it over the boom to keep it
pitched.
I'm not sure that the gooseneck woldn't have held up with all the snow
weight. I wonder if all of that weight would have been an issue for the
lower forward shrouds?

BB
Bill Berner
191 South Broadway
Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706

v 914 478 2896
f 914 478 3856
e BBerner@optonline.net

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 4:28 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How does all that water find it's way to the
bilge.

Gil,

That's a nice tarp.  The ones I saw shredded were all the blue ones.  The
shrink wrapped boats also had no problems.

I put a cinder block under the aft end of the trailer to keep it from
kicking up if too much weight shifts to the stern.  A couple of boats
smashed their sterns this winter because they did not take that precaution.

Also, some boats with tarps were damaged by bungee cord flogging.  Along
with all our snow, we got a lot of wind.

Bill Effros

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eaton, Gil" <GEaton@IKON.com>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] How does all that water find it's way to the
bilge.

Hi Bill,
You make me feel better getting the hd truck tarp from Northern
Tool.  It's a 12x24 Tarp held up with 1.5" pvc pipes, I think it was a good
idea for this year, it's still in good condition.  Picture attached.
gil

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Effros [mailto:bill@effros.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:35 AM
To: bberner@optonline.net; The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How does all that water find it's way to
the bilge.

Bill,

I feel better.

I went to my boat 2 days ago and found the same problem, only worse. I had
an inch thick sheet of ice in the cabin and 2 inches thick in the cockpit.

I made 2 mistakes I know of.

1.  I haven't been checking the boat regularly as I have done in past
winters.
2.  I didn't leave the boat very high at the bow on the trailer as I have in
the past.

Most of the water has thawed over the past couple of days.  (The bilge is
still a block of ice.)  Water got everywhere.

We have never had a winter like this since I've had my R22.  I've never had
even the slightest problem in the past.

I think snow + rain is the problem.   All the drain holes were plugged with
ice, so at some point the water had nowhere to go.  With frozen snow all
over the place, the rain wasn't channeled anywhere.  It puddled.  Froze.
Thawed.  Seeped.

Boats with tarps did no better than ours.  Many tarps were shredded.  There
was a lot of damage to things holding up the tarps.  Some boats with tarps
were hurt on their trailers because snow in the tarp put weight in
unexpected places.

Bruce told me his boat did not suffer water damage.  Parked without a tarp
25 feet away from mine.  I think his bow might have been a bit higher than
mine.

So I thought it was just me, and I couldn't figure it out.  Thanks for
letting me know I'm not alone on this one.

Bill Effros

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Berner" <bberner@optonline.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:00 AM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] How does all that water find it's way to the bilge.

It's finally been warm the last few days here in the North East, so I headed
off to my boat club to check up on my boat.

I must confess that I never covered it at the end of the season last year -
just put it on the trailer, parked it where they told me, took off the
cushions, and expensive stuff from the cabin, and took down the genoa.

Went back to check things out once before all the snow kicked in.

Yesterday's inspection was pretty good with one GLARING exception.

Upon checking the bilge I found water nearly up to the underside of the
cabin sole.  Now the boats bow is higher than the stern on the trailer, and
when I looked at the carpet in the aft end of the cabin, I found it was wet.
Apparently water had even soaked through the sole into the carpet back
there.

I have a deck plate in the hole for the nicro vent on the bow.

I also found some, but not an alarming amount of water in the lazarette.

There are no signs in the cabin of water having come in from above decks.

The boat is leaning a bit to starboard on the trailer, and the starboard
seat drain is stopped up.  The port drain is clear.

There was no water in the cockpit.  The cockpit drain is clear.

So how did that volume of water find its way into the bilge?

Any ideas? Theories and experiences welcomed.

Thanks.

Bill Berner
191 South Broadway
Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706

v 914 478 2896
f 914 478 3856
e BBerner@optonline.net

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