[Rhodes22-list] Soap Boxes

[John Tonjes]

Slimmy,
You mean you don't smoke Cuban cigars? Any respectable northerner knows you
can get them in Canada......just don't declare them when you come home. :)

Rummy


> [Original Message]
> From: Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com>
> To: Rhodes <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: 5/27/2003 4:57:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Soap Boxes
>
> O Great Rum One,
> Wiser words may never have been spoken, but remember that it's "politics
at
> usual" that prevent us from enjoying those Cuban cigars/baseball players.
> Viva Cuba!
> Slim
>
> On 5/27/03 3:54 PM, "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > I for one, don't have ANY political leanings. I usually just hit the
delete
> > button and move on to more important things.....like drinking.
> > 
> > Rummy
> > 
> > 
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com>
> >> To: Rhodes <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Date: 5/27/2003 3:29:03 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Soap Boxes
> >> 
> >> Hey Bill,
> >> Remember that if the boat leans to the left, it's because you're on the
> >> starboard tack... I have no idea what I mean by that but it sounds
> > profound.
> >> 8-)  8-)
> >> 
> >> Please feel free to post your own soap boxing.  But if you use
> > inflammatory
> >> rhetoric such as "conservative claptrap" you're sinking to their level
and
> >> should expect more starboard cannon fire.
> >> 
> >> We who sit on the port rail are in the good company of most of the
> > nation's
> >> great thinkers who occupy most of the professorship positions at the
> >> colleges and universities in this great country of ours, so take heart
and
> >> let fly!  Don't let that mean old Brad get your goat--don't get mad,
get
> >> even!  8-)   
> >> 
> >> What the republican party needs, for example, is just ONE good
poet--the
> >> poor suckers don't have any.  The great Minnesota thinker, Garrison
> > Keilor,
> >> has volunteered.  8-)
> >> 
> >> Roses are red, violet are blue,
> >> Don't quit the list, Bill,
> >> Lots of us think like you.
> >> 
> >> Slim
> >> 
> >> On 5/27/03 2:19 PM, "Bill Berner" <bberner at optonline.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I've been prompted to write by Brad's last couple of posts, especially
> >>> "Rumsfeld apologizes"
> >>> 
> >>> I started in to write a suggestion that the list charter be modified
to
> > ask
> >>> that members be refrain from soap boxing their political positions.
> >>> 
> >>> Then I realized that it would be asking for the group to curtail
> > Freedom of
> >>> Speech.
> >>> 
> >>> So, I'm left with a conundrum.
> >>> 
> >>> I am personally sick and tired of the inflammatory conservative
claptrap
> >>> that shows up here.  It's isn't always the substance that irks me so
> > much,
> >>> but the belligerance, sarcasm and school yard bullying quality of so
> > many of
> >>> the posts. I have rarely seen any acknowledgement that issues can be
> >>> multifaceted and complicated.
> >>> 
> >>> Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like all of the cannon fire comes from
the
> >>> starboard side, and I'm pretty tired of it.
> >>> 
> >>> Chances are that I'll have to quit the list to resolve the issue, not
a
> >>> choice I easily make.  There has been some good company here, and
lot's
> > of
> >>> good information.
> >>> 
> >>> Curious to see responses, then I'll shut up and make a decision.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Bill Berner
> >>> 191 South Broadway
> >>> Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
> >>> 
> >>> v 914 478 2896
> >>> f 914 478 3856
> >>> e BBerner at optonline.net
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of brad haslett
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:37 PM
> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rumsfeld Apologizes
> >>> 
> >>> May 26, 2003 
> >>> Rumsfeld Apologizes for Hyping Saddam Threat
> >>> (2003-05-26) -- U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald
> >>> Rumsfeld apologized to Senate Democrats today for
> >>> pre-war "hyping" of the threat posed by Saddam
> >>> Hussein's regime.
> >>> 
> >>> "I'm sorry Senators Biden, Rockefeller, Byrd, Roberts
> >>> and others," said a contrite Mr. Rumsfeld. "We
> >>> overestimated the threat posed by a lunatic dictator,
> >>> who hated the U.S. and Israel, and who paid rewards to
> >>> families of Palestinian terrorists. In an age when two
> >>> of the world's tallest buildings can be brought down
> >>> with tools used by the stockboy at K-Mart, we should
> >>> have demanded more concrete evidence of exotic weapons
> >>> of mass destruction. Saddam was helpless as a kitten
> >>> up a tree."
> >>> 
> >>> Sen. Rockefeller, D-WV, said Congress must determine
> >>> whether the administration "intentionally
> >>> overestimated" Iraq's weapons program, or "just
> >>> misread it. ... In either case it's a very bad
> >>> outcome."
> >>> 
> >>> Mr. Rumsfeld agreed, "What an awful outcome. We deeply
> >>> regret freeing the Iraqi people from a murderous gang
> >>> of thugs masquerading in the United Nations as a
> >>> representative republic. We're sorry that the Iraqi
> >>> people have discovered thousands of graves of their
> >>> Saddam-murdered relatives. It's none of our business
> >>> if people want to live like that."
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
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