[Rhodes22-list] Small problem when coming about.

jbconnolly at comcast.net jbconnolly at comcast.net
Thu Sep 25 18:33:00 EDT 2003


Bill & Peter,

It is likely that you are correct.  I am probably trying to get everything 
around at once.  It doesn't happen every time, and good preparation and a 
leisurely turn will certainly help.  I do not cross the sheets (i.e., stbd 
sheet stays on stbd winch).  

Do you find crossing the working jib sheet to the windward winch useful.  I've 
thought about it but not tried it.  (I have long arms)

Jim Connolly
> Jim,
> 
> I'm with Peter on this.
> 
> It seems most people think pandemonium is a necessary part of tacking.  
> 
> Do you cross sheet around the winches?
> 
> I release the jib much later than you do, never before the mainsail has come 
> about.  I have both jib sheets in my hands whenever I tack.  The (175) jib is 
> under control at all times and never flaps freely or hangs up on anything.  It 
> is usually a leisurely exercise.
> 
> I generally have no hands on the tiller during the tack.  Push it toward the 
> sails, let the wind do the work, switch sides unless feeling really lazy.  If 
> the boat is properly balanced the tiller will return to a somewhat neutral 
> position.  Pick up the hiking stick.  Sail off.
> 
> Under calmer conditions, (more difficult because the wind does less work) same 
> drill, put the tiller between my legs while getting matters under control.
> 
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Peter Thorn 
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list 
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 6:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Small problem when coming about.
> 
> 
> Jim,
> 
> tack slower -- it's faster.
> 
> verify a closehauled course before even thinking about tacking.
> 
> mover tiller a little at first, then more rapidly, then back about the same,
> then slowly adjust to centerline on the new tack -- if you're moving (and
> you should be moving in heavy air) about 30 degrees off centerline is all
> you need.  Any more and your "rudder brake" just slows you excessively.
> 
> before the tack, face forward and sit on leeward side to induce heel -- 
> heeling helps any boat round up and puts you closer to the jib cleat (if
> you're singlehanded)
> 
> Set up your mainsail to self-tack (most do this anyway, but the traveller
> may need adjustment).  Trim the main before the tack.  Don't touch the
> mainsheet when tacking, and notice the instant the main fills so you know to
> stop turning the boat.  You will settle on the new closehauled course better
> this way.
> 
> Do you think perhaps you are falling off too much after the tack?  That
> would carry the genoa clew forward in relation to the bow and bring the
> sheets near the bow cleat horns.
> 
> Keep your "lazy sheet" pulled in, without too much slack, before the tack.
> 
> don't release the genoa sheet until you first see the bow head up across the
> horizon in front of the boat.  Then, watch for the genoa to flap and hit the
> mast.  The instant the genoa touches the mast, sheet in like mad and don't
> stop until the jib is in.
> 
> Trim the genoa sheet with a fully stretched and extended arm, pulling all
> the way in to your center with each pull. It will take fewer, but bigger,
> pulls to haul the sheet in this way.
> 
> tacking slower gives you more time to pull new sheet in faster
> 
> I hope these suggestions work for you.
> 
> PT
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <LafingBear at aol.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:54 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Small problem when coming about.
> 
> 
> > Hi Folks!  I don't know if you folks have ever had this problem but with
> the
> > brains on this list someone may have a simple solution. I usually sail
> alone
> > and when it's really windy and I have to come about fast I just let the
> line on
> > the one winch loose push the tiller over all the way and start pulling in
> on
> > the other side as fast as I can. On several occassions, usually while
> trying
> > to beat  other sailboats across the lake, the line from the genny has
> gotton
> > hung up on the forward deck cleat as the genny comes across. This means I
> have
> > to leave the tiller, grab the pole, sprawl across the hatchway and flip
> the
> > line free of the cleat. This only happens when I have the genny all the
> way out,
> > it's very windy and I'm in a big hurry. Is there something I can put over
> the
> > cleat, or on the cleat, to prevent the line from snagging? Yeah, I know I
> > don't know all the correct terms for everything, but you guys know what I
> mean.
> > Any and all serious suggestions would be gratefully received.
> > I'll be at the NJ show on Thur. and I hope to run into some of you folks.
> > Jim Gifford
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