[Rhodes22-list] Politics

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Thu Apr 1 15:42:23 EST 2004


Or, to quote Richard Clarke, "Invading Iraq after 9/11 is like invading Mexico after Pearl Harbor."

Bill Effros
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Wally Buck 
  To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org 
  Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics


  Steve,

  Japan attacked the US, Iraq did not. How you can compare the two shows a 
  real lack of understanding of both history and current world events.

  By the way, NC had a "cowboy Republican" for too many years, luckily Jesse 
  Helms decided to retire.

  Wally

  >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
  >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
  >To: stan <stan at rhodes22.com>,The Rhodes 22 mail list 
  ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
  >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:16:42 -0800 
  >(PST)
  >
  >Good thing Bush lower you taxes to make up for all the
  >State tax increases, Stan.  Maybe you need to try to
  >get more Rupublican voted into office there in NC and
  >you would not have those problem.  Maybe you have a
  >wild NC rebulican cowboy that could help you out:-)  I
  >find it interesting that a business owner would hold
  >the view that you do, Stan.  I work for the government
  >and see that your analysis is off.  No offence but I
  >call them like they analyze out to be.  As for our
  >solders, they signed up to fight; on their own free
  >will.  Surenly you don't think that the militery
  >paycheck is jsut the same as a welfare check.  Also,
  >the only reason that we all can sit here & voice our
  >opinions freely is the fact that we have militery
  >Bases all over the world with solders on ready to
  >fight to protect this country.  That what keep this
  >country free; we fight to keep it that way.  Talking
  >does no good.
  >Steve
  >
  >PS - No offence Stan.  Just my opinion.  BTW: I had
  >relative that died in WWII so that you all don't have
  >to speak Japanese.  Maybe we should have jsut raised
  >the white flag then, we wouldn't have to worry about
  >Irag today - Would have been an Japan problem:-)
  >
  >
  >--- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
  > > sorry - I can't resist
  > >
  > > As usual both sides score points but I am old enough
  > > to remember that when
  > > Clinton did his military thing the republicans were
  > > screaming for his head
  > > for trying to help the oppressed Muslims, even
  > > though he did not lose
  > > American lives in the process.  Imagine if this were
  > > Clinton's war - they
  > > would have hired a hit squad to stop him.  This time
  > > it's a republican
  > > trying to help Muslims and it is the second coming.
  > >
  > > I would not pick on Geraldo for trying to tell us
  > > some good news - while he
  > > is more liberal than his Foxy brothers he does eat
  > > at the pleasure of those
  > > network divisions of the Murdock/General Electric
  > > giants.   I would,
  > > however, pick on our media mouthpieces for not
  > > picking on leaders who plowed
  > > us into a venture where the facts have proven these
  > > strategist failed their
  > > pre-attack homework.   It may be comforting to cry
  > > over the dead but it is
  > > sickening to see the thousands upon thousands who
  > > come back to us breathing
  > > but leaving so many of their good parts over there.
  > > As has been posted on
  > > these pages, face the facts. It is easy to be
  > > satisfied with this just cause
  > > when fighting the computer wars.  But would it still
  > > be a just cause if you
  > > knew you were going to be among those thousands of
  > > irreversibly altered
  > > returning bodies - or would you too be switching to,
  > > hell no, we won't go.
  > > If you think this cause worth gambling even part of
  > > you and willing to put
  > > up and follow a wild ersatz Texas cowboy, I respect
  > > you and will shut up.
  > > But I won't be in back of you for this one.
  > >
  > > As long as the economy was put on the electronic
  > > table I assume by now you
  > > all know that the tax cuts were not tax cuts but
  > > simply redistribution of
  > > wealth.  The savings of my guys has long since been
  > > more than eaten up by
  > > non-progressive increases in gas prices, sales
  > > taxes, state income taxes,
  > > real estate taxes, tuition increases (which is
  > > really the longest lasting
  > > and most detrimental to the health of this country -
  > > read Brokaws The
  > > Greatest Generation, tax increases) and endless food
  > > and commodity price
  > > increases.  We have raised the price of a Rhodes one
  > > thousand dollars and
  > > that still does not make up for the increases in
  > > steel, and resin and
  > > aluminum and plywood - even with our throwing our
  > > two social security checks
  > > into the pot. I think those who were having
  > > difficulty connecting the dots
  > > to our leader's vision of our future, are beginning
  > > to see the picture. One
  > > of my nightmare visions are the fathers of a
  > > balanced budget taking the
  > > national debt to infinity:  Foreigners pulling out
  > > of bonds, interest rates
  > > skyrocketing, the housing starts plummeting and
  > > worse, the record number of
  > > credit card carrying Americans suddenly having a
  > > monthly interest burden
  > > that will burry them - if they could afford a
  > > funeral.  As one pundit put
  > > it, Bush had campaigned to bring us together and he
  > > is finally succeeding.
  > > I think we already have enough Slims out there to
  > > put him out to pasture.
  > >
  > > stan/gbi
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
  > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
  > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
  > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:01 PM
  > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics Geraldo Rivera
  > > reports
  > >
  > >
  > > > Interesting Ed.
  > > > I have always thought that Fox was well balanced
  > > for
  > > > new.  ABC, CBS & NBC are all liberal networks.  Or
  > > at
  > > > least, I think so.  I also think we are doing a
  > > good
  > > > job over there.  In the good old days, helping
  > > poor
  > > > abused people to achive freedom was a liberal
  > > cause.
  > > > But Clinton did not think to help those people so
  > > now
  > > > the dems. have to opose it.  At least we are
  > > helping
  > > > them.  That whats important.
  > > > Steve
  > > >
  > > >
  > >
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