[Rhodes22-list] Steve needs Insight for political comments

Steve rhodes2282 at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 12 08:24:14 EDT 2004


Excellent write up, Michael.  Sorry if I have come off
to strong.  I will keep it to myself for awhile.  
Steve

--- Michael Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com> wrote:
> you know some thing guys(girls), I been watching
> this for a few weeks now and a few random thought.
> 
> 1)I ride into work with state troopers on the train.
> Some times they even bring the dogs(which makes even
> more sense)
> 
> 2)Their is company of troops at grand central, 24x7
> these days, side arms and m16, The bulky pouches the
> they are wearing are gas
> masks
> 
> 3)their are jerry barriers around everything these
> days, some build have better taste and are using
> connect planters, at least the
> followers are coming out.
> 
> 4)the NYC swat teams are out, see them at the subway
> entries, general 3 out of 5 days for the last month.
> 
> 5)everytime I go to services the "moon lighting
> officer" directing traffic has been replaced with
> 3-4 sqadcars and the towns swat
> team in reserve(BTW I am with wife and children
> mostly), Local ROTC has become the ushers
> 
> 6)Sister finished her shift in the pentagon 7 hours
> before being hit, she due to spend the summer in
> Iraq.
> 
> 7)I watched the tower burn, was talking to people on
> the cantor desk who never made it out, rode out the
> mess intown.
> 
> 8)My nephew is in Israel for the summer
> 
> 9)My own job, industry and payscale are highly
> effected by outsourcing.
> 
> 10)I read and react to more news source everyday
> then I suspect most people, it would cost 2000$ a
> month to deprecate the
> information.
> 
> 11) My kids play at the Memorials daily, allot who
> die did not have family's of their own and the money
> was put into the parks.
> 
> Now the part that's going to get every one pissed
> off. As far as the economy is going there is not
> anything more bush could have
> done, The interest rate are at 58 year lows, the tax
> cuts, bending over for business and even a war. That
> how you solve a recession
> in the US. Right now, the GDP is in 4-5% increase
> range, and year over year average pay is up 1.8%(the
> Mcjob bit). The business
> cycle has not been repealed and bush came into
> office in a downturn(401k become 201k), Guys their
> was a real market crash when 911
> froze everything(3/4 of the GDP is people spending).
> Right now Europe is in big trouble(except England),
> after years of being in the
> toilet they are revising down the growth rates from
> 1.6 percent, They are really sweating a "double
> dip". Now you want to complaint
> about bush. go ahead, it seems to be a bashing 
> thing, any thing to get the guy. It to the point
> like the old Russian days, "if you
> do not follow the party line you must be crazy and
> sent away to a mental hospitable" that and the
> "Intercultural gambit" to talk
> down to people like they do not know. This list has
> done both to Steve(and Steve has come on to strong
> in return, maybe a chicken
> and egg thing who was first). But their is few facts
> here, very little objectify, it seems only to be
> zealots options to strengthen
> their cause(like get bush).
> 
> You know what would be interesting would be the old
> debate team trick of switching sides, maybe that
> would give some fresh insight,
> Steve defends the liberal side and ed(Stan) become a
> conservative, now not halfhearted but seeing the
> merits of the other side and
> feel the position with the same passion.
> 
> what some folder:
> 1)the current hearings(does anyone believe bush
> would have ignored a real warning, or al their
> finding is the "Cover your ass"
> statements that was in everything generated at the
> time)
> 
> 2)The lost of 1.8(or is it 1.5 after the last
> report) job loss thing from bush coming to office, I
> thought in anought fact, we need
> to generate 115k of jobs every month to support the
> echo of baby boom.
> 
> 3)You feel safer(I give bill a break here, he going
> thought the same shit as me), how has it really
> effected you.
> 
> 4)Iraq, it getting down to become more ruthless or
> pulling you, I suspect more ruthless thought proxy
> after June 31.
> 
> 
> MJM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 2:24 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Steve needs Insight for
> political comments
> 
> 
> > Steve,
> >
> >     1.  I commented because of the total number of
> political posts with
> > your name.
> >
> >     2.  Back in the cold war days, the communist
> used the 'Big Lie'
> > propaganda technique.  Tell a lie often and
> violently and some will
> > believe it.  Let us assume your arguments are
> valid, then why take
> > yourself down to their method?  At least Brad
> Haslett used to support
> > your point of view with reasoned logic and not
> overdo it.  Before you
> > reply, go back and study all of his political
> posts.  Then wait until
> > the political conventions to blow off steam, or
> until someone makes a
> > comment worthy of reply.
> >
> >     3.  As far as I know, you are not required to
> read others political
> > comments or jokes.  I think some others make posts
> to get to you.
> >
> >                  Ed K
> >
> >
> >
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