[Rhodes22-list] respect,

[Steve]

Lloyd
I am more than willing to quit all this silly crap;
but the liberals keep posting their stupid stuff & as
long as they do; I will post Conservative comments. 
Thier acting like sore losers & that Liberals crapp
doesn't cut it with me. 
Steve

 
--- Lloyd <lcrowther at cox.net> wrote:

> Gentlemen (and ladies)
> 
> Some of us on the list are capable of deciding for
> ourselves who is right or
> wrong (in our opinion).  We also are able to
> determine if somebody can spell
> or not ( I'm in the latter camp).  This abuse or
> other Rhodes22 owners
> (i.e., your stupid, your an A**hole, etc.) is most
> offensive to those of us
> who joined this forum to interact with fellow
> Rhodies as civilized adults
> and to share sailing experiences, jokes, tall tales,
> and boating knowledge.
> In my humble opinion you are spoiling a very
> valuable resource with your
> egotistical tirades.  What was once an adult meeting
> place for fellowship
> has been so degraded by personal attacks on one
> another and other people
> with whom you disagree that I fear it will never
> return to what attracted
> sailors who respected their peers to join in the
> "good old days".
> 
> Lloyd
> s/v Uhuru II
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert Skinner" <robert at squirrelhaven.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Steve's respect, and
> health care costs
> 
> 
> > Steve wrote:
> > > ...
> > > Spelling/grammer mean nothing.  Being a
> conservative
> > > is what counts.  Your high & mighty liberalism
> is a
> > > thing of the past.  Spelled right or not!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Perhaps you are right, under the current counter-
> > intellectual administration.  "If you ain't for
> me,
> > you're agin me" is very much in vogue.
> >
> > What you are calling "conservative" was called
> liberal
> > a couple of decades ago.  I believe that what you
> > call "conservative" today is what we called
> "robber
> > barony" in the past.  I would hardly call a
> president
> > or party that acts like a drunken sailor in a
> whorehouse
> > "conservative".  Remember, Steve, that nothing
> lasts
> > forever, not even power or political position.
> >
> > While it is comfortable to parrot the political
> polemics
> > of the prominent party, I will wager that your
> position
> > will change over time.
> >
> > > ...
> > > As long as the Republican are in power; it's not
> a
> > > problem.  The Republican made the first surpluss
> and
> > > we will fix the mess the Democrats made undeer
> > > Clinton.
> >
> > Opinions differ on those points.  Nearly 50% of
> voters
> > disagree.  That is not exactly a consensus.
> >
> > > Once again, you have missed the point on Health
> Care.
> > > The problem is in Tort Reform.  That will fix
> Health
> > > Care costs.  Your are trying to talk around the
> issue.
> > >  You CAP settlements and all the costs related
> to
> > > liability claims will lessen health care costs. 
> And
> > > if people were smarter and research thier
> doctors;
> > > there wouldn't even be a need in all these
> lawsuits.
> >
> > 1. I think the problem is wider than tort reform. 
> Very
> > few things are that simple.
> >
> > 2. Information about doctor's failures, mistakes,
> etc.
> > is all but impossible to obtain.  Research is all
> but
> > impossible.
> >
> > > No the cost of drugs is not being ignored.  If
> you had
> > > any brains at all you would know that Bush has
> > > implementated a Prescription Drug plan for
> Medicare.
> > > And most states / public & private plans are
> > > implementating Evident Based Drug Provision in
> there
> > > packages offered to employees.  The drastic rise
> in PD
> > > is being fixed.
> >
> > Why do you insult me?  You destroy any validity
> your
> > comments might have.  Why not stick to the facts,
> and
> > label opinion as such?
> >
> > As to drug costs, we are a long way from a fix. 
> It is
> > not as simple as a small government plan that
> addresses
> > a small fraction of the population.  We need to
> figure
> > out a way to keep the old drugs that work
> available in
> > the marketplace, keep the cost of new drugs as low
> as
> > Canada, and get flu vaccine to people reliably.
> >
> > > Your other comments are simple bullshit.  The
> cost of
> > > denial of preventative health care.  The
> nothinbg but
> > > a Liberal scare comments that means NOTHING.  If
> it
> > > got deny; then it wasn't needed.  Preventative
> Health
> > > Care is being paid and not being denied.  Just
> Liberal
> > > crap!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > As it turns out, there are several lawsuits in the
> courts
> > which concern themselves with improper denial of
> claims.
> > In addition, there are few insurance policies
> which
> > provide complete preventative care.  The grand
> majority
> > of policies are reactive rather than proactive,
> especially
> > those available to individuals not covered under
> groups.
> > To say that the insurance companies are above
> reproach
> > is a bit optimistic.  They are "for profit",
> aren't they?
> >
> > > You are totally WRONG.  Tort Reform will fix the
> > > problem.
> >
> > An assertion, not a fact.  You are entitled to
> your
> > opinion.  I don't share it.
> >
> > > Look who it trying to reinvent the wheel.  You
> are
> > > trying to bring on a whole new case of lawsuit. 
> When
> > > a service is order as medically necessary; it
> must be
> > > order by a Doc.  So that accountability can be
> > > estiblish in cases of fruad.
> >
> > Wake up.  PAs are already in many practices, and
> are
> > already helping to control costs.  There is no
> greater
> > risk of malpractice lawsuits, it appears.  We just
> need
> > to keep moving in that direction.
> >
> > Robert Skinner
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