PHRF Seaward 26 Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel

Steve rhodes2282 at yahoo.com
Mon Feb 2 05:55:46 EST 2004


Thanks Michael.  Was just wondering.
Steve

--- Michael Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com> wrote:
> I do not know, I have to ask the sales man, but I
> supect he does not know either, the boat s only been
> out a few months, found some
> 270 for the seaward 25, but the 26 has a better foil
> and a little longer waterline. BTW the boat is a
> litte undercaved about the
> same mast hight as the rhodes22.
> 
> MJM
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 1:53 PM
> Subject: PHRF Seaward 26 Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb
> Keel
> 
> 
> > Michael
> > Do you know what the PHRF is on the Seaward 26?
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > --- Michael Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> wrote:
> > > here the story as I know it and I do not know if
> I
> > > have all the details, got it from some quickly
> phone
> > > calls.
> > >
> > > 1)Monday night/Tuesday mooring, Eltion was
> moving
> > > boat north for the boat show, the seaward26 in
> this
> > > case. remember he needs to
> > > take two boats to Chicago(the rhodes22 was
> already
> > > propositioned 60 miles from the show), The
> "working
> > > under time pruesser" is what
> > > got him, at least in my option, A bad thing to
> do
> > > with sailboats :-)
> > >
> > > 2)That was the night of the storm, about 120
> miles
> > > north of the plant on 295, going 50 mph(claims
> > > everyone was passing him). road
> > > were dry, so into a turn near a exit ramp and
> hits
> > > black ice(My option he drove into the frezing
> rain
> > > part of the storm but that
> > > 20/20 hind sight, 120 miles south on the coast
> the
> > > road might have been fine when he left the
> plant, my
> > > option.
> > >
> > > 3)jackknife, boat trailer/van go spinning, his
> van
> > > loose the running board, trailer looks like it
> > > smashed into the side of the van,
> > > trailer very bent up, fount coupler and bar bent
> to
> > > hell, trailer messed up where is meet the van.
> boat
> > > is flung from the
> > > trailer(remember he in the right lane, boat ends
> up
> > > in the center strip, 2-3 lane wide road), lands
> on
> > > the keel. Their was some snow
> > > that protected the finish form "road rash" and
> the
> > > only damage is the lead bulb came off where is
> > > landed on it(BTW about 400 pounds
> > > on the 1200 of bassist), not bad at all
> considering,
> > > no crack, no buckheads broken, no hull
> > > broken/cracked,  mast hardware fine
> > > etc..., bottom line the boat came thought fine
> and
> > > better than could be expected.
> > >
> > > 4)"Eltion is Fucked time", Think what you would
> > > do:-) it is not pretty, in the middle of
> nowhere,
> > > van  smashed, trailer smashed,
> > > boat on the side of the road, alot of money
> invested
> > > in a boat and a boat show. Lots of money flowing
> to
> > > make things happen, OK gets
> > > the trailer into a weild shop and they fix up it
> up
> > > along with the van. thats tuesday. gets a hold
> > > craine services for wednesday
> > > morring to get the boat on the trailer, but they
> > > need to close 295 to do it, calls the cops at
> first
> > > they where delaying for a few
> > > days then he told them he is getting the boat on
> the
> > > side of the road, "You are the boat man",
> apparently
> > > he is famious that every
> > > cop known the story on that strech of highway.
> He
> > > tells them about the boat show and they let him
> use
> > > the crane 900am.
> > >
> > > 5)late and behind time he makes it to the show,
> but
> > > turnes it into a great marketing optiunity to
> show
> > > how strong the boat is, got
> > > to love the guy.
> > >
> > > MJM
> > >
> > > I am sure thier move but he have fill you in.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 10:15 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> > >
> > >
> > > > So what the heck happened?  Everyone is OK
> right?
> > > >
> > > > Wally
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Michael Meltzer
> <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >To: kroposki at innova.net,The Rhodes 22 mail
> list
> > > > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> > > > >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:05:54 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >I heard stan make a quote, "I guest we should
> use
> > > straps" :-), I not shore
> > > > >it would have made a difference in this case,
> I
> > > waiting
> > > > >for the pictures but the trailer got turned
> into
> > > a pretzel, spent a day in
> > > > >the weild shop being rebuilt. The boat would
> have
> > > simply
> > > > >rolled with it attached and then broken
> apart,
> > > maybe sending a beam thought
> > > > >the hull, happened before.
> > > > >
> > > > >MJM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > > > >To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:53 AM
> > > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bulb Keel
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Didn't we have a discussion about the
> > > durability of the Bulb Keel
> > > > > > recently?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And I think back, it was Elton who told me
> > > that I did not need cross
> > > > > > boat tie down straps when I got my boat.
> > > Humm?  Would a strap across
> > > > > > the cockpit have been worth the twenty
> bucks
> > > it cost?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  _/)
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > >                                      Ed K
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > > >
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > > Behalf Of Ronald Lipton
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:42 AM
> > > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Elton's
> excellant
> > > adventure
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Both the Seaward and the Rhodes 22 are
> being
> > > offered at a $2000
> > > > > > discount at the show.  Given what happend
> the
> > > Seaward is in remarkable
> > > > > > shape
> > > > > > with the exception of the bulb keel, which
> did
> > > not survive the 70 mph
> > > > > > "grounding".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ron Lipton
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > > > > > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:53 AM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Elton's
> excellant
> > > adventure
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe GB will have a scratch and dent
> sail,
> > > er I mean sale .....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wally
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: "keith burkhardt"
> > > <mkburk at adelphia.net>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Elton's
> excellant
> > > adventure
> > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 22:03:57 -0500
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I just got back from the  chi boat
> > > show...Elton had  the Seaward in
> > > > > > tow
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >it slipped offf the trailer ,,,He has
> great
> > > pics of this adventure
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > >able to reload the boat abd got it into
> the
> > > show today...I looked at
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >Seaward and there appears very little
> > > damage...It was the talk of the
> > > > > > show
> > > > > > > >and many folks visited the
> area..reagards
> > > keith
> > > > > > >
> > >
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