[Rhodes22-list] Prosecuted homeowner blasts officials

[Saroj]

My very point.  and they are mildly successful at the post-crime "clean up"
IMHO.

Saroj
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
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Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 8:00 PM
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> The one think that keeps sticking in my mind is an augment that go like
this:
>
> 1)ex-girlfriend/ ex wife (could be anyone). calls the cops. worried,
someone out to "get them". No "proof".
> 2)calls and calls the cops for protection, they will be told be told we
will keep and extra eye out, maybe gets a order of
> protection if they lie in court.
> 3)shit happens and you read about it in the "post", A great American news
paper BTW :-)
> 4)The family goes to the cops and ask(sues) over this, "she called you 10
times with warnings and looks what happened....."
> 5)Now the Cops drop the BS of how great they are and give the official
answer and it goes something like this" Our job is to adrest
> people for breaking laws, not to be bodygrurds or to prevent crimes or
even save lives". Now granted, they try to but it is not a
> requirment or an obgiation, they obgaiation is to clean up afterwards.
>
> MJM
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
> To: "Saroj" <saroj at pathfind.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 5:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Prosecuted homeowner blasts officials
>
>
> Saroj,
>
> Don't do it the way Sir Peter Blake did it.  When pirates boarded his boat
anchored at the mouth of the Amazon he went for his gun,
> and they killed him.  The other 9 crew members lived.  The pirates took
some watches and a dinghy.
>
> What possession could you possibly have on a 22 foot Rhodes sailboat that
is worth your life?
>
> As I read this tripe, Roger says he needs his gun to protect himself from
his own government; Rik needs his because he lives in a
> bad neighborhood; now you seem to fancy yourself as a middle aged female
defender of the high seas.
>
> What's wrong with you?
>
> I can make a case for gun ownership, but you are making a very strong case
against it.
>
> Bill Effros
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Saroj
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Prosecuted homeowner blasts officials
>
>
> Hey folks,
>
> I would like to turn this conversation to ways and means of storing and
> using guns while cruising. We hope to do that extensively in the future.
> Want to know how to manage it.
>
> Saroj
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert Skinner" <robert at squirrelhaven.com>
> To: "Saroj" <saroj at pathfind.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 12:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Prosecuted homeowner blasts officials
>
>
> > Saroj wrote:
> > > I'm with you on this one...
> > > For myself, I'm planning to learn to shoot
> > > a hand gun, rifle and shotgun...
> >
> > May I offer a few words of advice?
> >
> > I'd start with a pump scatter gun with the
> > shortest legal barrel and pistol grip rather
> > than shoulder stock.
> >
> > Reasons?
> >
> > If you use a pump, the sound of the action is
> >      generally enough to clear the area.
> >
> > The configuration of short barrel and pistol
> >      grip looks quite ready for serious close
> >      action business...
> >
> > The sight of a big hole in the end of a weapon
> >      tends to reduce the chance of an argument.
> >
> > Shotguns (esp. short barrel) make a BIG noise.
> >      Your warning shot cannot be mistaken for
> >      a welcome.  And other than some damage to
> >      wallboard and siding, it is a cheap way
> >      to prevent legal consequences.
> >
> > These factors may (hopefully) result in a
> >      bloodless and rapid retreat of the intruder,
> >      and no problems with paperwork and
> >      bureaucrats after the fact.
> >
> > Otherwise:
> >
> > Shotgun requires least accuracy under pressure.
> >      The decision to cause massive injury or
> >      death in another human is stressful, if
> >      not paralyzing.  Anyone would tend to be
> >      up tight defending their home.
> >
> > Small to medium size shot generally doesn't
> >      penetrate walls and injure neighbors, etc.
> >      Minimal collateral damage is a good thing.
> >
> > If you have trouble with the recoil from a 12
> >      gauge, a 16 or 20 gauge also works.  But
> >      generally, the bigger, the better -- more
> >      noise, bigger hole, and more pellets.
> >
> > In any case, congratulations on your decision to
> > undertake a citizen's responsibility to learn how
> > to exercise your rights.
> >
> > Very respectfully,
> > Robert Skinner
> >
>
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