[Rhodes22-list] Genoa question

Peter Thorn pthorn at nc.rr.com
Fri Jan 30 11:45:06 EST 2004 

Ed or anyone,

Do know about any R22s racing as a one-design fleet ??

PT


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:20 AM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa question


> Bob,
> 
>       If you are into that heavy of a description, there are a couple of
> Rhodes owners not,  not on the list who sail out of somewhere in
> northeastern North Carolina or Southeastern Virginia who seriously race
> their boats.  All I know is that they have standard rigs, and tuned to
> speed.  I met one but I am not that serious about racing.  I did not
> keep contact information.  But like that science fiction program used to
> say, "They are out there ..."
> 
>  
> 
>                          Ed K
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Peter Thorn
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:02 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa question
> 
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> 
> Bob,
> 
>  
> 
> Like many technical things, the best answer to your question is "it
> 
> depends".  I'll try to explain.
> 
>  
> 
> The method of describing headsail size is expressed as a percent of the
> 
> perpendicular distance from the luff to the clew (not a horizontal
> 
> measurement) divided by the "J" dimension - the horizontal measurement
> 
> (parallel to the waterline) from the headsail tack point to the front of
> the
> 
> mast.  Therefore, a headsail that is a "decksweeper" might not extend
> past
> 
> the cabinhouse and measure to be a "180".  Alternately, the same sail
> recut
> 
> to have a much higher clew also near, but much above the cabinhouse,
> might
> 
> measure to be a "135".  In the second example, the sail would loose lots
> of
> 
> area from the foot and would therefore be much less powerful and justify
> the
> 
> lower measurement.
> 
>  
> 
> To check your headsail you can spread it out someplace, say in your
> garage
> 
> or basement, and measure the perpendicular distance from the luff to the
> 
> clew.  Divide this distance by the R22 "J" dimension and you will know
> 
> exactly what size it is.  Off hand I don't know what J is for an R22,
> but
> 
> I'll bet there are lots of folks on this list that do.
> 
>  
> 
> Fair and warmer winds to you.
> 
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> 
> PT
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: "Robert Dilk" <Robert.Dilk at TRW.COM>
> 
> To: <rlipton at earthlink.net>; <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> 
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 8:18 AM
> 
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa question
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 130%, 150%, 175%
> 
> On my Rhodes 22 the clue of the Genoa reaches to the end of the coach
> roof.
> 
> Can any one compare this to known Genoas and estimate the size of my
> 
> Headsail?
> 
>  
> 
> thanks
> 
> Bob S/V Knot Necessary
> 
>  
> 
> >>> rlipton at earthlink.net 01/29/04 09:40PM >>>
> 
> I have been thinking along those lines as well, But I probably won't do
> 
> it all at once.
> 
> UPS this year then perhaps going to a 130-150 with CDI furler next
> 
> season. There is
> 
> nothing worse than being out there with just a wisp, and enough chop to
> 
> spill any
> 
> air out. (Well maybe I can think of worse things...)
> 
>  
> 
> Ron
> 
>  
> 
> On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 08:24 PM, Mary Lou Troy wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> > Michael, I've got to say there were about 5 days last summer where the
> 
> > 175 was just the perfect sail for conditions on the Bay. You can point
> 
> > higher with the genoa than with the UPS and the combination of
> 
> > windspeed and the direction we were headed was just right for the 175.
> 
> > When we go to replace the genoa, I wouldn't be adverse to bringing it
> 
> > down to 150 and then getting a smaller jib for the days you know
> 
> > you'll want one. For the Chesapeake, a 130 might be a little small
> 
> > especially if most of your sailing is upwind.
> 
> >
> 
> > Mary Lou
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> > At 08:05 PM 1/29/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> 
> >> I would think about getting an %110-130% and the UPS, with the UPS up
> 
> >> do not beed the 150-175% for light days and the 110 will work
> 
> >> on the highwind days. just a thought.
> 
> >>
> 
> >> MJM
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> >> From: "Ronald Lipton" <rlipton at earthlink.net>
> 
> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> 
> >> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 12:34 PM
> 
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mainsail
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> > I am also interested in reports on the IMF main with batten.  My
> '89
> 
> >> > mainsail is showing it's age and has been repaired at the clew.  I
> 
> >> have to
> 
> >> > decide whether to risk one more season with the old main.  I am
> 
> >> also
> 
> >> > thinking about springing for the UPS for this year...
> 
> >> >
> 
> >> > I hope Elton and the boat make it in one piece - it has been pretty
> 
> >> > ugly around here for the last few days.  Very cold - moderate
> 
> >> > snow - lots of salt on the roads.
> 
> >> >
> 
> >> > Ron Lipton
> 
> >> >
> 
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> 
> >> > From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>
> 
> >> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> 
> >> > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 10:28 AM
> 
> >> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] some one has a virus
> 
> >> >
> 
> >> >
> 
> >> > > speaking of viruses reminds me to respond to Rummy's e-mail
> 
> >> concerning his
> 
> >> > > ordering a new IMF main sail.
> 
> >> > >
> 
> >> > > First I think anyone ordering another IMF main should get the
> 
> >> reports from
> 
> >> > > those who actually own the new IMF mains with batten.
> 
> >> > >
> 
> >> > > Second, sails from other suppliers do not have the proprietary
> 
> >> cut that
> 
> >> > > avoids the bottom of the sail from piling up and wrinkling and
> 
> >> being
> 
> >> > harder
> 
> >> > > to handle.  If you do not want the batten and do not have the
> 
> >> wrinkling
> 
> >> > cut
> 
> >> > > problem, fine.  Price wise the new IMF sails and those from other
> 
> >> > > sailmakers, from what Rummy was quoted, seem to be the same.
> 
> >> > >
> 
> >> > > Not doing this to sell sails - just don't want any owners to get
> 
> >> any
> 
> >> > madder
> 
> >> > > at us for not speaking up, than they already may be.
> 
> >> > >
> 
> >> > > stan/gbi
> 
> >> > >
> 
> >> > > PS:  If anyone is going to the Chi Show on Thursday, the Rhodes
> 
> >> will be
> 
> >> > > there under its road snow but Elton and the 26 won't make it
> until
> 
> >> > Friday -
> 
> >> > > something to do with his trying to take advantage of the weather
> 
> >> to try
> 
> >> > > skiing with a van, trailer and a big boat.
> 
> >> > >
> 
> >> > >
> 
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> 
> >> > > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> 
> >> > > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> 
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 8:40 PM
> 
> >> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] some one has a virus
> 
> >> > >
> 
> >> > >
> 
> >> > > Please people check you pc, some one has the latest virsu going
> 
> >> around, I
> 
> >> > > seeing it in the mail logs,
> 
> >> > > update and run your software.
> 
> >> > >
> 
> >> > > here a free checker (an frankly you should buy and run anti-virus
> 
> >> > software)
> 
> >> > > http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp
> 
> >> > >
> 
> >> > > MJM
> 
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