[Rhodes22-list] bilge pump

[RICK CENTALONZA]

Bill,
Thanks for the heads up on the replies.
True, when the boat heels that much speed suffers, but sometimes it happens.
I can't argue with logic. Your points are well taken.
No way will I put any new holes in the boat.
I think a new gasket and a lower water level in the tank will help.
Thank you.

Rick

on 7/16/04 1:03 PM, Bill Effros at bill at effros.com wrote:

> Rick,
> 
> We try to put our replies on top where they are more likely to be read.
> 
> If you are heeling that far you are going slower than you would go if your
> boat were upright.
> 
> In my view, bilge pumps on boats like ours are dumb.  If the pump is large
> enough to pump the water uphill in reasonable quantity it won't take the
> amount of water you are dumping into the bilge, out of it--there won't be
> enough water.  If you want it to pump out your boat if something happens while
> you're not in it, it will drain your dinky batteries, and then your boat will
> sink.  But not to the bottom.  Then you can try to deal with the problems you
> would have had anyhow, plus the problem of dead batteries.
> 
> If you would like to add more problems, and new holes to your boat, get bilge
> pumps.  You won't be disappointed.  You can worry every time you leave the
> boat that a stuck switch drained your battery and will ruin a good sailing
> day.
> 
> These boats won't sink.  The leaks are sponge quantity.  If you're taking on
> water because of the way you're sailing the boat, it's time to think about the
> way you're sailing the boat.  Don't put water in the tank if all you're doing
> is spilling it into the bilge.
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: RICK CENTALONZA
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 11:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] bilge pump
> 
> 
> on 7/16/04 11:24 AM, Gardner, Douglas (LNG-DAY) at
> douglas.gardner at lexisnexis.com wrote:
> 
>> Rick, 
>> 
>> I'm sure you'll get some good responses.  We've had extensive discussion
>> on this in the past, and several excellent approaches.  I particularly
>> remember MJM's approach (multiple bilge pumps in various locations) and
>> Roger's (he made a well in front of the centerboard trunk).
>> 
>> I can only give details on mine.
>> 
>> For mine, I went the easy way.  I have a cheap electrically operated bilge
>> pump w/ a float switch under the floor of the head.  It is directly wired to
>> the battery, with a fuse inline.  Therefore, it is NOT disabled if I have
>> the battery switch in the off position.
>> 
>> The hose runs into the galley area and up to the hull-deck joint, where it
>> turns back with a vented loop and then back down to tie into the sink drain.
>> The vented loop is important to prevent siphoning if the sink drain
>> through-hull is under water on a port tack.  Some people recommend a check
>> valve in addition to or instead of the vented loop.  However, I opted for
>> the simpler solution with less potential for obstructions in the hose.
>> 
>> To my knowledge, the bilge pump has never come on, although I have had water
>> in the bilge. I've never had what I consider to be a LOT of water in the
>> bilge, and I've always found and patched any small leaks.  Generally, my
>> bilge is BONE dry. I forced the pump to come on to test it, but I guess
>> there was never enough water to activate the cheap float switch.
>> 
>> If I had to do it over again, I'd probably buy a better pump and better
>> float switch, and try to shorten the hose length by using a more direct
>> route to the sink drain.  However, I don't think there is much wrong with my
>> general approach if the goal is just to assist or to keep a minor leak from
>> severly flooding the boat if I'm away for a few weeks (assuming the battery
>> charger is connected to shore power).
>> 
>> I do have a manual bilge pump, which is really the primary way to get water
>> out of the bilge.
>> 
>> --Doug
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of RICK CENTALONZA
>> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 10:50 AM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] bilge pump
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Gentleman,
>> I have been reading the e-mails for months prior to getting a new Rhodes in
>> May.
>> How would I run the wire and tubing for a bilge pump. I have read some of
>> the archives, but there is no mention of this.
>> Thank you.
>> Rick 
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> Doug,
> Thank you for the info. I'll take a look under the floor near the head and
> let you know my decision.
> 
> Rick
> 
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