question and RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.

Michael Meltzer mjm at michaelmeltzer.com
Mon Jun 28 22:50:26 EDT 2004


this should like a geometric curve, 72 feet is next.

MJM
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: question and RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.


> Wally,
> 
> Haha - we're about at the opposite end of the scale - we've only been
> sailing for about 5 years and have already moved from a 14' to an 18' to a
> 19' to a 22' and now to a 37'. Sheesh - go figure.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Wally Buck
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 2:11 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: RE: qestion and RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> 
> 
> Mary Lou,
> 
> It took me 30 years of sailing to move up from 14 - 19 foot day sailors to
> the R22. It was the right move for me as it finally got my wife in a dry
> boat. :-). For the type of cruising we do (up and down the river) it suits
> me fine. I sail more than anyone else at my marina and that is the way I
> want to keep it.
> 
> I will admit to being too lazy to maintain a larger boat, my home, and my
> marriage. I could handle taking care of two of the three but something would
> have to give. :-)
> 
> The R22 meets all of my current needs.  Some day this may change and this is
> why I still look at the various web listings.
> 
> Wally
> 
> >From: Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at verizon.net>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: qestion and RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> >Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 08:37:09 -0400
> >
> >I'm with Mark on this. I'd hate to have to subscribe to 5 or 6 different
> >lists to find out what my buds, the former Rhodies are up to. The Seaward
> >RK 26 appears to be a logical move up from an R22, though it appears that
> >36 & 37 footers are currently popular.
> >
> >So here's a question for all the Rhodies out there, if you were to move up
> >(over or down) - what would your next boat be and why? One of the main
> >reasons we've stayed small is the ease of maintenance. We like having a
> >boat on the Chesapeake that we can haul home for the winter. We've talked
> >about retiring down near the Bay and that has brought consideration of a
> >bigger boat. Right now I've been looking at Tartan 28s. Supposedly good
> >sailing, Sparkman & Stevens design, nice deck layout (with the exception of
> >the bridgedeck traveller which would take some getting used to), good
> >cockpit, good engine access, good interior layout and some are even
> >available tiller-steered. Seems like a nice boat for a couple who still
> >would want to do a lot of daysailing but might want to take off on longer
> >trips.
> >
> >Anyone else want to take a stab at this?
> >
> >Mary Lou
> >1991 Rhodes 22 Fretless
> >Swan Creek, MD / Ft. Washington, PA
> >
> >
> >At 07:42 AM 6/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> >>Michael,
> >>
> >>Bob and Nancy Quinn are the ones w/ the Tartan 37 - Julie and I have a
> >>Tayana 37.
> >>
> >>And my two cents worth on this topic - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. If
> >>we can allow the political rants we've seen, surely we can allow boats
> >>other
> >>than the R22 to be discussed, as well.
> >>
> >>Mark
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
> >>Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 1:46 AM
> >>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> >>
> >>
> >>I can agree with this :-), mjm does not like to work more than the next
> >>man.
> >>I have to admit I do find the topic a little strange, I
> >>figured this might have been a problem and asked a few months ago, it
> >>seemed
> >>that most were ok with it, now that it is a fact, some
> >>of the same people have a problem. OK, I am sitting druming my fingures on
> >>what to do, like I have a question about the macys fire
> >>works/hellgate/anchorage ,an other about puting on names and have I a
> >>answer
> >>about "centen". Should I even bother asking or
> >>answering?  Next problem if people did not want me here who should I hand
> >>the list over to, Mark a 37 tartan, Will is a seaward 26
> >>and so and I, they will be subject the same "problem".  Now sailnet or
> >>yahoo
> >>groups would work but they have thier warts. Resomable
> >>people made a resonable statement/request, My problem is I am human too
> >>and
> >>feel a little rejected, just do not have the hart to
> >>deal with the list tonight.
> >>
> >>MJM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> >>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:57 PM
> >>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> >>
> >>
> >> > I agree, heck this list doesn't have much traffic as it is. Why make
> >>MJM
> >> > have to work any harder supporting two lists. Maybe Rummy was going to
> >>run
> >> > the new server. ;-)
> >> >
> >> > PS Ric - I went sailing Saturday and Sunday.
> >> >
> >> > Wally
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >From: "Dan Bodnar" <dsbodnar at earthlink.net>
> >> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> > >To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> >> > >Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:57:14 -0400
> >> > >
> >> > >As a regular reader and occasional contributor, I too gave some
> >>thought
> >>to
> >> > >space taken up by the Seaward dialog, and also came to some
> >>conclusions.
> >> > >
> >> > >I happen to agree that it is the people that makes this list what it
> >>is.
> >> > >The discussion of a 'foreign' boat isn't much different than the
> >>political
> >> > >and sports discussions that get going on the list.  It all makes up
> >>the
> >> > >character of this list, and often provides excellent food for thought.
> >>The
> >> > >biggest improvement to the management of the list has been the
> >>discipline
> >> > >I've seen everyone use in keeping the subject line on topic.
> >> > >
> >> > >Although I'd move up to the (Still Only A Dream) Rhodes 26, this
> >>afternoon
> >> > >if I could, I like hearing the experiences people are having with
> >>other
> >> > >boats, Flicka, Seaward, classic runabouts, Rhodes 19 etc.  These are
> >>people
> >> > >I've come to know and their comments, positive and negative, go a long
> >>way
> >> > >in influencing my choices and opinions.
> >> > >
> >> > >I also think that a lot of the chatter about the Seaward will settle
> >>down
> >> > >after the boats are delivered and get sorted out.  These people still
> >>have
> >> > >a
> >> > >lot of good Rhodes experience to share with the group. I'd hate to
> >>have
> >> > >them
> >> > >feel unwelcome, because they are sailing something else, at the
> >>moment.
> >> > >
> >> > >There is something to be said about the GBI umbrella too.
> >> > >
> >> > >Dan Bodnar
> >> > >SV; QOL, '92 Rhodes 22
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> > >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rik Sandberg
> >> > >Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:02 PM
> >> > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> >> > >
> >> > >Rummy and all,
> >> > >
> >> > >Yeah, you are right about the traffic on the Seaward. BUT, I was
> >>thinking
> >> > >about this too. True this list is named the R22 list, but when we
> >>really
> >> > >think about it, isn't it really more like the "I bought a boat from
> >>Stan
> >> > >and/or Elton list"?? In my estimation we (at least I) are here more
> >>because
> >> > >our friends, or people we know are here, than because of which brand
> >>of
> >> > >boat we have. I know there are other Seaward forums already and I'm
> >>sure
> >> > >most who are migrating to the 26 probably are already communicating on
> >> > >those as well. I also belong to the Flicka 20 list, but I still come
> >>here
> >> > >because I like you Rummy, as well as a lot of other folks on the list.
> >> > >Also, this list tends to be a little less full of the topic police
> >>than
> >> > >most and is more fun to be around because the topic tends to vary from
> >>day
> >> > >to day.
> >> > >
> >> > >I can't say if this diversity is a good thing or a bad thing for the
> >>list.
> >> > >I suppose opinion on this will vary from one person to the next. For
> >>me
> >> > >(yes I know I'm now an outsider) coming here is more about staying in
> >>touch
> >> > >with my friends than talking about a specific boat.
> >> > >
> >> > >Just my 2 cents worth, probably wasn't worth that much though. :-)
> >> > >
> >> > >Hey, somebody sail a little bit for me. Let me know where we went. I'm
> >> > >working again this weekend.....as usual.
> >> > >
> >> > >Rik
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >At 09:07 AM 6/26/2004, you wrote:
> >> > > >I have waited several weeks before writing this post, so a little
> >>bit
> >>of
> >> > > >thought has gone into writing this.
> >> > > >I have noticed that the amount of mail concerning the new RK26 is
> >> > > >overwhelming the list. Not that this is a bad thing, it's just that
> >>I
> >> > > >don't have  any
> >> > > >interest in it.
> >> > > >I would like to throw up for discussion the possibility of another
> >>list
> >> > >for
> >> > > >the RK26 owners. It is not a Rhodes design hull and I think they
> >>need a
> >> > >new
> >> > > >home.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Rummy
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