[Rhodes22-list] Purchasing new genny????

[Ronald Lipton]

Mary Lou,

   Did you upgrade from the cleated to the through-boom main outhaul?  I
saw the newer design on the R22 at Strictly Sail in Chicago and
it looks like a much better arrangement. Did you make the modifications
yourself?

Ron

On Sunday, March 14, 2004, at 08:04 AM, Mary Lou Troy wrote:

> Wally, we reduce sail well before 20 knots (actual or apparent) 
> windspeed. Our 175 seems to be the perfect sail from 4 to 10 knots. I 
> suspect we begin to furl it a little before 10 if it's gusty. I don't 
> think we've ever tried Bill's method of furling the main more than the 
> genny as we are always trying to get rid of lee helm. For the record 
> we don't like the 175 for much below 4 knots of wind - the sailcloth 
> is just too heavy to keep the sail full in any kind of wave action - 
> that's one of the reasons we went to the UPS for really light air.
>
> My current thinking on an ideal set of sails for our boat and the way 
> we sail would be the UPS, a somewhat lighter big genoa and a heavier 
> 125-130.
>
> I think a standard main with a roach would affect heeling differently 
> than the IMF main. I also suspect (but don't know) that furling our 
> mains the way we do makes them more susceptible to having them develop 
> a blown out belly and that this may affect heeling as well. I've also 
> noticed that it is easier to get a flatter main with our new 
> through-the-boom outhaul arrangement - we used to have to tie the 
> outhaul off to a horn cleat so it was not very adjustable on the go.
>
> Mary Lou
>
>
> At 10:27 AM 3/13/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>> I have IMF. I am amazed at the range of comments regarding wind speed 
>> and sail selection. I don't see how it could matter if I had IMF or 
>> Standard main. My boat needs sails reduced in 20 plus.
>>
>> Wally
>>
>>
>>> From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Purchasing new genny????
>>> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 11:59:49 -0500
>>>
>>> Standard main or IMF?
>>>
>>> Bill Effros
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Wally Buck
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 11:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Purchasing new genny????
>>>
>>>
>>> My boat must be light or something. At 20 heading upwind my 125 is 
>>> furled to
>>> keep me off the rail and I am fighting a 30 degree heel.  Most 
>>> likely the
>>> boom is lowered halfway as well. I like exciting sails as much as 
>>> anyone and
>>> more than most. Too bad you can't try sails out and return them like 
>>> clothes
>>> that don't quite fit!
>>>
>>> Still have an open mind .....
>>>
>>> Wally
>>>
>>> >From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
>>> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Purchasing new genny????
>>> >Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:04:45 -0500
>>> >
>>> >Twice in one day.
>>> >
>>> >Again, Wally, I agree with Rummy.  I rarely furl below 20 knots.  I 
>>> sail
>>> >the boat upright with minimum heel.  I generally sail alone.  The 
>>> 175 makes
>>> >it very easy to come about.  I adjust sail sizes to keep the boat 
>>> well
>>> >balanced.  When I'm sailing in crowded harbors I reduce the size of 
>>> the 175
>>> >so I can see the traffic better.
>>> >
>>> >Bill Effros
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >----- Original Message -----
>>> >From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>>> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> >Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:18 PM
>>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Purchasing new genny????
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Wally,
>>> >When you furl depends a lot on your style of sailing and how much 
>>> ballast
>>> >(people weight) you have with you. When alone, I never furl until 
>>> the winds
>>> >gust
>>> >above 20 knots. Below that and I'm comfortable. The 175 is an 
>>> awesome sail.
>>> >Besides looking good, it is an excellent performer in lite air as 
>>> Bill
>>> >mentioned. By the way, I think this is one of the first times 
>>> anyone has
>>> >agreed with me
>>> >on the list.....I appreciate your support Bill.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Rummy
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