[Rhodes22-list] Politics -Tom Sowell

Sat Nov 20 10:40:02 EST 2004

Tom,

If you somehow deduced that I think Iraq is like
Vietnam, you have come to the wrong conclusion, Sir. 
Vietnam was a war fought with no clear objectives,
micro-managed by the Johnson administration from the
basement of the White House, and ended by Nixon under
the dubious "Peace With Honor" program, whatever that
concept was.

Our objective in Iraq has been from the beginning to
change the political dynamics of a whole region. 
Yeah, it was sold on WMD, disposing a dictator, etc.,
but the real reasons are that everything we've tried
in the last thirty years haven't worked.  That point
was driven home on 9/11.

Here's a link to Victor Hansen's latest column.  He
sums this up very nicely.

http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson200411190830.asp

A lot of folks, Charles Lindberg's "America First" for
example, were opposed to our entry into WW2 but got
behind the effort when the shooting started.  The same
is true of Truman's decision to engage in Korea. 

Everyone gets another chance to voice their opinion
for/against the war in two years and a new
presidential administration in four.  In the meantime,
regardless of anyones personal politics, we had better
prevail in Iraq. Despite the mainstream media's
obvious and documentedand bias against the current
administration, we are prevailing in this fight!

Brad Haslett
"CoraShen"

--- kostmst at comcast.net wrote:

> Brad
> 
> I agree.  The Iraq war is like the Vietnam war.  We
> win all the battles but loose the war.  
> We need to know what will win the war before we
> start one.  Sending our kids off to 
> fight is OK but only when the need is really there.
>   Tom SV Circe
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> 
> > Ed, 
> > 
> > Here's a few more links for perspective. 
> > 
> > http://politics.slate.msn.com/id/2109904/ 
> > 
> >
>
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20041118-093816-1955r.htm
> 
> > 
> >
>
http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/dhenninger/?id=110005914
> 
> > 
> > ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS are out of touch with reality. 
> > Frankly, anyone who makes an issue of this is out
> of 
> > touch with reality, and history. WAR IS HELL! Some
> 
> > people still stick to the idea that this or that
> war 
> > was warranted/un-warranted because of the party
> who 
> > declared it. Get a freakin' grip. Avoid war at all
> 
> > costs, but when you start one, win the damn thing!
> 
> > Maybe all those network people should reflect on
> that 
> > while they drive their Volkswagons and Hondas on
> the 
> > way home. Yeah, we're real occupiers, aren't we? 
> > 
> > Brad 
> > 
> > 
> > --- ed kroposki wrote: 
> > 
> > > Brad, 
> > > I knew there was a reason why I agreed with Dr. 
> > > Sowell in the past. 
> > > He was watching the same program as I was.
> Before 
> > > the election we had more 
> > > liberal views than reasoned views on this list. 
> > > They all need to read that 
> > > reference that you gave me: 
> > > 
> >
>
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20041118.shtml
> 
> > > Freedom of speech is one thing, but to use the 
> > > public airways to 
> > > promote anti American anti democratic anti
> freedom 
> > > views need to be label as 
> > > such before Chris Matthews and Dan Rather open
> their 
> > > mouths. 
> > > All right Mr. Rummy, politics is back on the
> list. 
> > > Go ahead and 
> > > defend Chris Matthews! 
> > > Ed K 
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org 
> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
> > > Behalf Of brad haslett 
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:14 PM 
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list 
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics - War in
> Iraq 
> > > 
> > > Ed, 
> > > So you discovered powerlineblog.com, good for
> you. 
> > > It 
> > > was one of my favorites leading up to the vote,
> good 
> > > reasoning without the histronics. 
> > > A marine shot an insurgent, hiding in a mosque, 
> > > firing 
> > > on US troops. BFD! Perhaps the dead guy should 
> > > have 
> > > worn a uniform from a recognized nation, then he
> 
> > > would 
> > > have rights under the Geneva Convention. As it
> is, 
> > > he's just another dead terrorist. Good riddance.
> 
> > > Here's a couple of links for perspective. 
> > > 
> >
>
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20041118.shtml
> 
> > > 
> >
>
www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html/id=110005911
> 
> > > Our boy did the right thing. The embedded 
> > > photographer 
> > > ran an anti-war web site with an agenda. Good
> for 
> > > him. My suggestion is that he not depend on the 
> > > Marines for protection much longer. The Iraqi 
> > > people 
> > > get their chance to speak out in two months. I 
> > > doubt 
> > > too many of them will grieve over one dead guy
> too 
> > > stupid not to stay dead after the battle of 
> > > Fallujah. 
> > > The election is over, the gloves are off! Enough
> of 
> > > our boys have died already. The mainstream news
> can 
> > > go kiss some French ass. 
> > > Brad 
> > > 
> > > -- ed kroposki > > 
> > > Yesterday I watched Chris Matthews on TV
> interview 
> > > General Schwarzkopf. He kept pressing that the 
> > > marine was wrong and should 
> > > have waited. 
> > > Check out this Blog: 
> > > http://powerlineblog.com/archives/008650.php 
> > > 
> > > Ed K 
> > > 
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